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Post by Babun on Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:24 pm

I was just thinking, we have a lot of midfielders for 4-2-3-1 but only three of them are the real deal ( Xabi, Sahin and Khedira). Lass sucks pretty much. Now, why does he suck? eco smile

Xabi is slow( plays closer to defence to recover faster) and can't distribute under pressure properly, he needs space. We play him deeper and the other player in front of him. Something like this:

-------Xabi-----------
-------------CM-------

You can't play them the other way around with Xabi's abilities Very Happy Lass in front of Xabi is more than useless but as a ball winner and a defender he isn't crap. So, how to rotate that we get 4 proper midfielder for our 2 most important positions? eco smile
The solution:

--------Lass----------
-------------Sahin----

Sahin is perfectly comfortable in CM area and could reinforce the attack if needed. Lass won't be asked to distribute and he won't have to do it. He'll win the ball and concentrate on defending only Very Happy two ball winners, one of them offensive and the other total defensive, it would work with Sahin Very Happy
We should rotate them in pairs and that's it, all 4 midfielder are utilizable eco smile

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Post by Guest on Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:34 pm

Lass is not smart enough to cover sideline to sideline without making mistakes strategically... his scope of awareness is too small. He's also not clean enough technically.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:36 pm

Lass sucks because his football brain is tyrex size Very Happy

As far as rotating goes, with the season launched, and the team now in a very precise dynamic, Mourinho isnt going to rotate Xabi that much. He is just too important, not only as a player making the distribution from deep, but as a leader as well. If you need any indication, him kicking Ronaldo away from the fk spot for Sahin was BOSS. Sahin and Khedira will both play a lot with him.

I agree, Lass is a defensive beast, but for a side like ours that is ambitious about playing the ball more and holding on to the ball, as a general rule, all players need to be good on the ball, clean in the pass, and fairly intelligent in the play.

It's even more important for the double pivot. It's a weakness to pair a donkey and a distributor. Ideally, both needs to be passing outlets, and in that regard, even khedira in a more conservative style is smarter.

It's precisely why the perfect player for the task is Schweinsteiger, but since he belongs to Bayern, let's be ambitious in looking for the next best thing.


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:38 pm

WC imo, you should drop Alonso for Granero aswell.
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Post by Babun on Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:38 pm

I'm not saying Lass is the next big thing but we should use what we have for now eco smile
Pairing Lass with Xabi or Khedira would be dumb eco smile And I'm talking about rotation only... eco smile

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:47 pm

babun1024 wrote:I'm not saying Lass is the next big thing but we should use what we have for now eco smile
Pairing Lass with Xabi or Khedira would be dumb eco smile And I'm talking about rotation only... eco smile

Well, it goes without saying that we will use him. as long as he is here, he will play

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Post by Babun on Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:50 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:WC imo, you should drop Alonso for Granero aswell.
A mole come out of the hole eco smile What're you digging with your post? eco smile

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Post by Guest on Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:11 pm

when you think about it, the best way to use Lass is as the sweeping DM. So might as well try it... it's better than what he's doing right now. Of course, he would be best suited to backup or play RB. But he doesn't want to.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:14 pm

babun1024 wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:WC imo, you should drop Alonso for Granero aswell.
A mole come out of the hole eco smile What're you digging with your post? eco smile

Barca would have its way with Granero and Lass eco smile
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Post by SuperMAG on Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:03 pm

M'Vila.

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Post by Babun on Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:48 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
babun1024 wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:WC imo, you should drop Alonso for Granero aswell.
A mole come out of the hole eco smile What're you digging with your post? eco smile

Barca would have its way with Granero and Lass eco smile
I was talking about rotation. We're likely to start Xabi, Sahin and Khedira altogether against Farca eco smile
@SuperMAG wrote:M'Vila.
Could he play in front of Alonso? eco smile

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Post by Giovanni10 on Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:33 pm

I actually have no problem with Lass sweeping deep and even distributing from deep on occasion. See his long ball and diagonals are actually quite good. People always have a go at his passing because he does not have the vision to make short forward thinking passes. I'm going to re-iterate for emphasis, Lass' long ball is not half bad.
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Post by Pedram on Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:20 pm

He is going to leave Real Madrid in January. :dance:

"There's too much competition here [at Real Madrid]. I do not want to stay on the bench any longer," said Diarra.

"I am sure that my contribution could be important," he continued. "A project like Roma's would be perfect and then I want go to the Euros [with France]."

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Post by Guest on Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:30 pm

El Pipita wrote:He is going to leave Real Madrid in January. :dance:

"There's too much competition here [at Real Madrid]. I do not want to stay on the bench any longer," said Diarra.

"I am sure that my contribution could be important," he continued. "A project like Roma's would be perfect and then I want go to the Euros [with France]."


He needs to go someplace, start and shine if he wants to play for France NT. Getting called in the February friendlies is his last chance... a longshot tbh. Too many DMs on France NT as it stands. If he were a AM, Blanc would come pick him up personally for the games lol.

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Post by Turok_TTZ on Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:31 pm

El Pipita wrote:He is going to leave Real Madrid in January. :dance:

"There's too much competition here [at Real Madrid]. I do not want to stay on the bench any longer," said Diarra.

"I am sure that my contribution could be important," he continued. "A project like Roma's would be perfect and then I want go to the Euros [with France]."


I do wish Goal.com wud provide source for that. is goal itself the source? cant even find in tribalfootball ffs and tribalfootball is a good source for nonsense. wonder how much of that is true.

makes me wonder about this article from AS:http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/mou-lass-escenifican-entreno-buena/20111111dasdasftb_10/Tes

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:32 pm

source?

meanwhile :dance:

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Post by Pedram on Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:39 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:source?

meanwhile :dance:

http://www.goal.com/en/news/755/europe/2011/11/17/2761608/real-madrids-lassana-diarra-admits-roma-would-be-perfect

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Post by estrella bernabeu on Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:30 pm

Source of Goal.com ? :dance:
Meanwhile, who to replace him in January :coffee:

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Post by Guest on Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:43 pm

They say Marca interview... but i can't find the interview lol.

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Post by futbol_bill on Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:58 pm

Another bullshit article. He had his chance last summer. Mou has said no to Granero going, that they will be no changes come January (bajas nor altas).

Why would Lass want to go? This statement that he will go to get spot on NT, turned out to be false. Why would he have stayed last summer? He is getting playing time (much more than he deserves) with Mou. He for some reason likes him. After all Mou has done for him, why would Mou let him go in January? Lass may go but it will be next summer not January.
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Post by Babun on Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:18 pm

Mou won't let him go in January. It sucks to be Lass... eco smile

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:33 pm

No one is leaving nor coming in January, bar injuries

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:26 pm

@Babs, do you know about Ja-Cheol KOO?

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Post by Babun on Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:34 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:@Babs, do you know about Ja-Cheol KOO?
I don't watch Wolfsburg Very Happy
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:46 pm

Where are the real Bundesliga specialist? albino

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