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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by Dutti on Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:14 am

Reuters and CNet have interviewed members of the Apple / Samsung patent trial jury who awarded Apple over $1 billion in damages over patent infringement claims against Samsung.

Reuters spoke with jury foreman Velvin Hogan who explained that they found Apple's arguments persuasive about the need to protect innovation. Furthermore, Hogan says it was "absolutely" clear based on Samsung executive testimony that the infringement was purposeful.

In the CNet interview with another Apple v. Samsung juror, Manuel Ilagan reiterated that it was "clear there was infringement". When asked for specifics, he said:

"Well, there were several. The e-mails that went back and forth from Samsung execs about the Apple features that they should incorporate into their devices was pretty damning to me. And also, on the last day, they showed the pictures of the phones that Samsung made before the iPhone came out and ones that they made after the iPhone came out. Some of the Samsung executives they presented on video [testimony] from Korea -- I thought they were dodging the questions. They didn't answer one of them. They didn't help their cause."

Both jurors claim that their decision was deliberate and not rushed. According to Ilagan, the process was helped by the experience within the jury pool. Hogan, the jury foreman, had previously worked as an engineer and holds a patent himself. Meanwhile, others on the jury were said to also have engineering and legal experience.

In determining the award amount, Hogan reports that they felt Apple's demands of $2.75 billion was "extraordinarily high", especially taking into account the uncertainty in Apple's ability to have sold significantly more iPhones due to component supply constraints. That said, Hogan told Reuters they did want a send a message.

"We didn't want to give carte blanche to a company, by any name, to infringe someone else's intellectual property," Hogan told Reuters a day after the verdict.

rofl I guess "dodging questions [like assholes]" might have worked if they were arguing in a personal debate. But, this was a trial ffs :facepalm: Those Samsung execs are real idiots.

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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by TalkingReckless on Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:50 am

This is going to come off cynical, but it is what it is. There was zero doubt that Apple would win this. None. Looking at the closing arguments alone, it was plainly obvious that showing a jury full of laypeople Product A vs. Product B and asking them -- in a roundabout way -- if they looked alike would lead to an Apple victory. But the thing that really burns me up is that Samsung was on the other end of this. Why not Motorola? Why not HTC? Why not every Android smartphone maker since 2007? The brutal truth is that Samsung was simply made an example of because it's the only phone maker in the world that's actually pulling in meaningful profits besides Apple.

I've been told that this trial isn't about tech editors and avid followers of technology -- these folks can clearly see that a Samsung product and an Apple product are not the same. But let's be honest: the notion that consumers could have been willfully deceived that an Android-based Samsung phone was an iPhone is pathetic. There's a giant "Samsung" logo on it. It's about as absurd as suggesting that someone could be duped into buying a Honda Odyssey instead of a Dodge Grand Caravan. They're both minivans after all, right?

And let's not even start on iOS 5's pull-down Notification Center, which was unquestionably spotted in other mobile operating systems. Oh, and iMessage? Nah -- I've never seen that idea implemented anywhere prior. The reality is that Android has made iOS better, and iOS has made Android better. The competition has led to stronger offerings on both sides for consumers of all ages, and if you want my honest opinion, Apple succeeded in derailing Samsung long before this trial ended. Just look at the Galaxy Note 10.1. It's a truly disappointing piece, largely because it was intentionally designed to not be as awesome as the iPad. And make no mistake -- it's a far cry from being an iPad.

In the end, consumers will lose. Companies high and low are scrapping potentially amazing product ideas right now for fear of legal retaliation. Not just from Apple -- this ruling is way, way bigger than that -- but from any company with a patent on [insert obscure shape here]. I hope we're happy.

-Darren Murph


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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by jcjunior on Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:16 am

Apple is so ridiculous, they're just finding ways to slow down the progress and development of Samsung. Soon Samsung will take over the world and Apple will be out of the picture.

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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by che on Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:56 am





seriously, *bleep* apple, and *bleep* everyone who buys their products, thereby approving of, and funding, this nonsense

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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by RealGunner on Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:15 am

Hatred for Apple grows by 20% after all this.The company is based on hypocrisy.

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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by Senor Penguin on Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:33 am

I have yet to buy an Apple product. This is just an additional reason not to.

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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by RealGunner on Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:48 am

Same here

Samsung Galaxy Nexus >>>>>>>>>> Any iPhone ever made

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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by JespSwe on Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:32 am

personally in future i feel like i am open to buy apple product whether that be iphone or macbook ... but these kind of issues gives you pretty negative feeling and second thoughts.

also that i read somewhere that apple is deliberately changing designs like the power cable for example, so that it would force customers to buy new one.

think i read that in dailymail.

Apple is a great company, but if their first preference is always to help customers before money, i would be incredibly happy to buy their product anytime even if its a little bit expensive than its rival. apparently this doesnt seem to be the case.

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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by Spider on Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:59 am

http://en.paperblog.com/samsung-pays-apple-1-billion-sending-30-trucks-full-of-5-cents-coins-294795/

This morning more than 30 trucks filled with 5-cent coins arrived at Apple’s headquarters in California. Initially, the security company that protects the facility said the trucks were in the wrong place, but minutes later, Tim Cook (Apple CEO) received a call from Samsung CEO explaining that they will pay $1 billion dollars for the fine recently ruled against the South Korean company in this way.

the funny part is that the signed document does not specify a single payment method, so Samsung is entitled to send the creators of the iPhone their billion dollars in the way they deem best.

his dirty but genius geek troll play is a new headache to Apple executives as they will need to put in long hours counting all that money, to check if it is all there and to try to deposit it crossing fingers to hope a bank will accept all the coins.

Lee Kun-hee, Chairman of Samsung Electronics, told the media that his company is not going to be intimidated by a group of “geeks with style” and that if they want to play dirty, they also know how to do it.


who's trolling who now :coffee:

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Post by Senor Penguin on Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:24 pm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2012/aug/29/apple-samsung-trucks-nickels-fake?newsfeed=true

Wish it was true though.

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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:10 am


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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by Forza on Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:55 am

rofl

apple fully deserve the backlash they're getting over this

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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by FalcaoPunch on Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:17 pm

Was the Galaxy S3 one of the phones that were brought up in the trial?
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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by TalkingReckless on Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:43 pm

ColoJunior wrote:
Was the Galaxy S3 one of the phones that were brought up in the trial?
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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by Senor Penguin on Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:39 am

Apple's design is so 'unique'. Bricks with rounded edges. *Swoon*

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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by Yuri Yukuv on Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:04 pm





I really like the new samsung 7 slate, it reminds me of something but I cant seem to put my finger on it

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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by FalcaoPunch on Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:39 pm

MacBook Air?
Ahaha Samsung never copies apple..

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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by che on Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:57 pm

ColoJunior wrote:MacBook Air?
Ahaha Samsung never copies apple..

when exactly did apple release a hybrid pc with display detachable from the keyboard?

or did they invent the concept of black buttons on silver aluminium too?

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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by FalcaoPunch on Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:00 pm

Aluminum unibody with the "traditonal" keyboard that has been a standard on all their models MacBooks (airs and pros)

The design itself is a ripoff. I mean just look at it.
They keyboard is exactly the same as a MacBook air 11 inch.

I mean JUST LOOK AT IT

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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by che on Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:11 pm

OHMAIGAWD THEY HAVE THE SAME KEYBOARD!!! UNHEARD OF!!!





it's a *bleep* keyboard, of course they're going to look similar, do you expect samsung to make a circular one where the letters are in an alphabetical order just so they don't infringe on apple's precious designs? jesus christ...

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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:17 pm

My first thoughts upon seeing those pictures were "that looks like a perfectly average laptop"...

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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by Yuri Yukuv on Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:47 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:My first thoughts upon seeing those pictures were "that looks like a perfectly average laptop"...

Its a great laptop, could be a macbook pro killer as this video blogger says


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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by FalcaoPunch on Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:11 pm

Nice generic pictures of keyboards with "island spacing"
Of course those look nothing like a traditonal like the macbook keyboard.

Because its black isn't the point.

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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by FalcaoPunch on Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:13 pm

@Yuri Yukuv wrote:
@BarrileteCosmico wrote:My first thoughts upon seeing those pictures were "that looks like a perfectly average laptop"...

Its a great laptop, could be a macbook pro killer as this video blogger says



Ahaha I actually sold that laptop to my cousin. Samsung series 7 chronos or something.

Great machine good specs. I believe his however was one step below because it didn't have the backlit keyboard at the time

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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by pUsHa on Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:47 pm

Well Apple are a bunch of hypocrites , but I'll still be going to use my jail-breaked Ipad3 Laughing

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Re: Apple Trolling Samsung

Post by che on Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:50 am

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-09-06/enter-goophone-i5-looking-a-lot-like-apples-iphone-5

good luck fighting a chinese company in chinese courts Laughing

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