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Post by Babun on Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:38 pm

What will Mou do? eco smile Khedira and Lass didn't travel at all. Maybe a bloody trivote with none of the AMs? eco smile

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Bloody trivote is an alias for

-------------Alonso--------------
-------Lass---------Khedira-----

in midfield... eco smile

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Post by Ganso on Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:43 pm

i would pick none and use the trivote midfield with di maria,cr and benz upfront.
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Post by Mamad on Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:46 pm

Ozil. no doubt about that.

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Post by Zealous on Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:55 pm

Just play one of them, if it means that we won't use the trivote I don't care who starts.

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Post by Babun on Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:58 pm

@Zealous wrote:Just play one of them, if it means that we won't use the trivote I don't care who starts.
Zealous just set an example why we call the formation bloody trivote in our inofficial lexicon instead of just trivote eco smile

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Post by Guiltybystander on Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:10 pm

If Mou will build some sort of defense stronghold again, I will personally fly to Madrid and slap him in the face. That would just be bloody embarrassing, we have been very successful in our current line-up idea (the game we play), and we should use that against Barcelona too - no fear, they lost it and we gained.

No back half with insane players who will all get cards (Pepe, Ramos, Lass especially) and then very little connection with the front because no Ozil/Kaka.

Instead, we should probably play Kaka if he is in form, because he is a bit more of the style of player Barcelona has a tough time with, he is stronger, harder to get off the ball and relies a lot on the surprise effect too. When you have less possession (although I have a feeling we will be close this time), Kaka might be better. Although Ozil would work too (although I maintain he has been pretty meeh lately).... It doesn't REALLY matter in the end I think, as they are both great. Just need to see if Kaka has it or not tomorrow. If he is meeh, GO FOR OZIL.

My preferred line up:

Arbeloa- Ramos- Pepe - Marcelo
----- Sahin - Alonso
------------ Benzema
--CR ---- Higuain ---- Di Maria
(THIS WOULD BE MY ULTIMATE ONE, not defense prowess though, but verrryyyy fast)

OR as a realistic one:

Arbeloa - Ramos - Pepe - Marcelo
----------Khedira- Alonso -------------
-------------- Kaka/Ozil ---------------------
------CR -- Higuain -- Di Maria


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Post by Adit on Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:12 pm

Ozil any day,its not even debatable.

Kaka atm is way inferior to ozil.

All cules over internet are saying they are going to play 3-4-3 with two false 9 in lolbregas and fat midget.


Mehscherano.............Pique............Abidal

........................Pussycat

....................Vagi..............Divesta

...........................lolbregas

Alexis.......................Mehssi...............Villain


This is a extra attacking formation which we can expect if they are drawing or losing in second half.

Or


Mehscherano.............Pique............Abidal

........................Pussycat

Dives..............Vagi..............Divesta


Alexis.......................Mehssi...............Villain

In this formation Dani dives in for nullifying our left wing attack which i think will be the key and my money is on this formation as if 343 dont work out as expected they can easily change to 433 with that line up.
Abidal can nullify Di maria,also since our RB is meh going forward it will be easy to restrict our right wing.
Since our both wings are blocked we will have to move ball throw midfield which will be extreme difficult during UEFA pressing and Xabi and Khedira aint good at carrying ball forward.

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Post by Guest on Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:30 pm

Ozil needs to start he is important to our possession and build up play

Kaka is not going to have much of a chance to play his usual game against Barcelona

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Post by Zealous on Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:31 pm

If Di Maria is focused then Abidal is going to have a tough time imo.

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Post by Adit on Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:33 pm

@Zealous wrote:If Di Maria is focused then Abidal is going to have a tough time imo.
Problem many here go unnoticed is di maria doesnt have a support. CR thrives because he has Marcelo to support him while di maria is asked to create himself.The persons beside him are Khedira and Arbeloa.

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Post by Zealous on Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:49 pm

@Adit wrote:
@Zealous wrote:If Di Maria is focused then Abidal is going to have a tough time imo.
Problem many here go unnoticed is di maria doesnt have a support. CR thrives because he has Marcelo to support him while di maria is asked to create himself.The persons beside him are Khedira and Arbeloa.

I know that and I'm not saying it'll be easy but I think Angel can do it. I believe in him.

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Post by EarlyPrototype on Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:51 pm

Ozil for the first 70 mins and Kaka for the final 20.

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Post by hrealmadrid on Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:28 pm

Agreed. Ricky off the bench
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Post by Giovanni10 on Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:01 am

You guys have been chatting up the amazing Sahin for months now so I propose:

"Bloody Trivote"

----------Xabi--------
Khedira-------Sahin

This way we get extra defensive cover (Sahin > Ozil on defence) and ok fair Sahin is not at DLP but he will still be able to create as well.

Would be a ballsy move but Mou won't because Sahin cannot be trusted at present, and G*d knows when he will be Laughing Cool
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Post by Rossoneri Ninja on Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:30 am

Why don't you just go toe -to- toe against them.

For the following reasons
* You're in better shape , defensively and in attack
* You have better depth and quality on the bench
* Potentially embarrass them
* It suits your team's style better than that of Barca ( who are slighty more vulnerable)

So i'd play Kaka & Ozil


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Post by Giovanni10 on Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:45 am

@Rossoneri Ninja wrote:Why don't you just go toe -to- toe against them.

For the following reasons
* You're in better shape , defensively and in attack
* You have better depth and quality on the bench
* Potentially embarrass them
* It suits your team's style better than that of Barca ( who are slighty more vulnerable)

So i'd play Kaka & Ozil


That is quite possibly the dumbest thing you have ever said concerning Real Madrid :facepalm:
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Post by H.A. on Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:46 am

I predict Di Maria & CR7/Benz will exchange flanks pretty often if they have 3 at the back to just confuse the hell out of the back 3. I think puyol is ahead of mascherano.

If The AM/CAM position is indeed dropped for the bloody trivote then Benz will have a quite game as I expect him to play deeper in a false 9 role. Sahin won't start [for some reason some are putting it out there].

Either way I would prefer either one of them up front as I know they will both cause havoc for barca since both can dribble, keep the ball under pressure and make pretty good passes. We have a lethal assister in Ozil and an extra goal scorer outlet in Kaka.

Ahh the possibilities if we don't go the bloody trivote Sad

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Post by Le Samourai on Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:51 am

One thing i pretty vlear to me ......whatever he decides to go with.....it has to be

Higuain + Kaka or

Benz+Ozil.

If he even plays an AM that is......

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