Cristiano Ronaldo-the most overrated player of all time?

mtfootball wrote:It's not just about stats though.

nobody said that. if you watch him play, you would also know he is overrated. di maria and callejon were both better but he gets all the credit for a training ground shot and penalty benzema won, but il give him the first goal.

RealGunner wrote:5th hatrick of the season..

115 goals in 113 app

over rated ? Hell no

rauls hatrick with schalke was more impressive today.

raulmadrid4vr wrote:

RealGunner wrote:5th hatrick of the season..

115 goals in 113 app

over rated ? Hell no

rauls hatrick with schalke was more impressive today.

Raul is a legend of Real Madrid!

but still so irrelevant how your brain brought that as a counter argument.

You will never ever ever be able to score a goal like how ronaldo did today, his second goal.

back on topic, It must be said that someone who has scored 115 goals in 113 app is not overrated as VERY few players... actually besides messi and CR no one is able to have such an impressive goal to game ratio.

I don't even take trolls like you seriously, you sound like someone who just found out about real madrid and its prestige and glory.

CR7 has had some bad games, but then again who hasn't? he is the reason we go into 2012 with a 3 point lead... many of his goals have been decisive, just like today his first goal weakened the strong morale of the Sevilla side.

Anyways trolls like you can keep shitting while his reaction after the 2nd goal was just for you "jizzing" on haters like you.

Madrid DOES NOT need division. Every player is valuable, and has his own place in the team. Friction brought about by trolls like you is not needed, as some of our best posters had to leave because of idiotic ppl like yourself.

Lastly, I want to congratulate everyone for going into 2012 as leaders. HALA MADRID! La Dacima is within reach!

Ganso wrote:Wtf are you talking about you prick,when did I start a fight in here?u mad I made a thread on the rb section of your mentally illl comment on pepe being better than silva?

Santos will still lose!

Who knew Ronaldo would ever be underrated in this section...

Must be his calf size.

ijomer wrote:

raulmadrid4vr wrote:

RealGunner wrote:5th hatrick of the season..

115 goals in 113 app

over rated ? Hell no

rauls hatrick with schalke was more impressive today.

Raul is a legend of Real Madrid!

but still so irrelevant how your brain brought that as a counter argument.

You will never ever ever be able to score a goal like how ronaldo did today, his second goal.

back on topic, It must be said that someone who has scored 115 goals in 113 app is not overrated as VERY few players... actually besides messi and CR no one is able to have such an impressive goal to game ratio.

I don't even take trolls like you seriously, you sound like someone who just found out about real madrid and its prestige and glory.

CR7 has had some bad games, but then again who hasn't? he is the reason we go into 2012 with a 3 point lead... many of his goals have been decisive, just like today his first goal weakened the strong morale of the Sevilla side.

Anyways trolls like you can keep shitting while his reaction after the 2nd goal was just for you "jizzing" on haters like you.

Madrid DOES NOT need division. Every player is valuable, and has his own place in the team. Friction brought about by trolls like you is not needed, as some of our best posters had to leave because of idiotic ppl like yourself.

Lastly, I want to congratulate everyone for going into 2012 as leaders. HALA MADRID! La Dacima is within reach!

it wasnt a counter argument.. it was just something interesting to note.

you are still throwing childish personal attacks like 'troll' around? people can see and determine who is a troll, you dont need to mention it every single post. the need you have to mention it already proves everything. plus, it is interesting how you say you dont take me seriously yet i caused you to take off your cristiano pictures in your sig.

again, you are just throwing stats without analyzing. look at all the analyzing and breaking down of the stats i did in this topic.

i already told you, i was following real madrid from the 90s, which is probably before you started following football.

are you insulting peoples intelligence here by constantly stating 'madrid doesnt need division?' this is obvious, the need for you to say it is only because [apparently] you have nothing of value to say so you compensate with this politically correct 'filler talk' in order to try to get people on your side. its not like cristiano or mourinho or the press can hear any of us here. it is healthy to talk about who should play and such, for the benefit of the team. you cant just sweep problems under the rug. being politically correct and saying 'hala madrid' to get people on your side means you are a bad fan, because you add nothing to discussions regarding changing the team for better. i am done with you until you mature or add something of value here. luckily you are the only member like this here so far.

HALA MADRID. a madrid fan since 90s.

I think this guy is on to something

Swagg_Johnson wrote:I think this guy is on to something

when a atletico fan tells you how to treat your player and rightly so,it really tells something about most of us madrid fans here

Ronaldo sucks in big games and against Barca. i don't care if he scores 20 Hattrick each season. i want a big game performer.

20 goals in the league before Xmas.
25 in all comps...

Most players will be happy with that for an end-of-season total.

If you don't like Ronaldo, that's your problem.
But don't let your biasm cloud the fact that he is an absolutely superb player.
5 hat-tricks this season.

GTFO

Mr.Hendrix wrote:You Madrid fans are so fickle and sometimes vastly undereducated. You really think if ronaldo leaves the likes of Benzema and Higuain will replace his value/goals/assists to the team? Ronaldo is put under a microscope by other teams, he is always tightly marked. I want to see how higuain and Benz will react to such tight marking.

53 goals last year? Some from penalties, some from free-kicks, some from tap-ins, but you think anyone in the team has the ability to score the different types of goals like him? Ronaldo can score screamers, tap-ins, free-kicks, impeccable penalties, headers....I dont even think Messi has this versatility (even though he is a superior player in what he does). There is a reason why you guys paid 94mil for him. Learn to appreciate.

You guys (Real madrid fans) really need to get your shit together. I will always support Real over Barca and I hope you beat Sevilla today. But just giving you a neutral perspective on this issue.

Most of our "fans" are not really "fans" per se . The same people screaming when we win are those who scream when we lose.

Kind of embarrassing how fickle and short sighted a lot of them are.

ijomer wrote:

Swagg_Johnson wrote:I think this guy is on to something

What? He's putting up stats that shows Cristiano is not as clinical as most people think.. Plus he sucks against Barca so I think him being over rated is a valid point.. Not the most over rated player ever though, that is ridiculous

Mr.Hendrix wrote:You Madrid fans are so fickle and sometimes vastly undereducated. You really think if ronaldo leaves the likes of Benzema and Higuain will replace his value/goals/assists to the team? Ronaldo is put under a microscope by other teams, he is always tightly marked. I want to see how higuain and Benz will react to such tight marking.

53 goals last year? Some from penalties, some from free-kicks, some from tap-ins, but you think anyone in the team has the ability to score the different types of goals like him? Ronaldo can score screamers, tap-ins, free-kicks, impeccable penalties, headers....I dont even think Messi has this versatility (even though he is a superior player in what he does). There is a reason why you guys paid 94mil for him. Learn to appreciate.

You guys (Real madrid fans) really need to get your shit together. I will always support Real over Barca and I hope you beat Sevilla today. But just giving you a neutral perspective on this issue.

+1

out of 18 la liga game, he has scored 14 goals (penalties not included) and those 14 goals came in 8 games. so he didnt score in 10 games out of 18 games this season.

these are the 8 games he scored in:

6-0 drubbing of zaragoza
6-2 drubbing of rayo vallecano
4-0 drubbing of malaga
7-1 drubbing of osasuna
3-2 vs valencia
3-0 drubbing of sporting gijon
6-2 drubbing of sevilla
5-1 drubbing of granada

such valuable goals and a great scorer. we would definitely be in relegation zone without his crucial game savers.

raulmadrid4vr wrote:out of 18 la liga game, he has scored 14 goals (penalties not included) and those 14 goals came in 8 games. so he didnt score in 10 games out of 18 games this season.

these are the 8 games he scored in:

6-0 drubbing of zaragoza
6-2 drubbing of rayo vallecano
4-0 drubbing of malaga
7-1 drubbing of osasuna
3-2 vs valencia
3-0 drubbing of sporting gijon
6-2 drubbing of sevilla
5-1 drubbing of granada

such valuable goals and a great scorer. we would definitely be in relegation zone without his crucial game savers.

i think this is a good point

I personally don't. Even if he doesn't score Ronaldo being on the pitch releases everyone else from man marking.

Also it's not a coincidence that when Ronaldo is scoring goals and playing well we tend to blow away opposition.

And cut the penalty crap, they all count and it's not like tap ins are harder to score.

raulmadrid4vr wrote:out of 18 la liga game, he has scored 14 goals (penalties not included) and those 14 goals came in 8 games. so he didnt score in 10 games out of 18 games this season.

these are the 8 games he scored in:

6-0 drubbing of zaragoza
6-2 drubbing of rayo vallecano
4-0 drubbing of malaga
7-1 drubbing of osasuna
3-2 vs valencia
3-0 drubbing of sporting gijon
6-2 drubbing of sevilla
5-1 drubbing of granada

such valuable goals and a great scorer. we would definitely be in relegation zone without his crucial game savers.

and how do you think does drubbings were produced..

for eg
villa is an el clasico flop

he scored 2 goals in a 5-0 drubbing of madrid, nothing special

get my drift?

Zealous wrote:I personally don't. Even if he doesn't score Ronaldo being on the pitch releases everyone else from man marking.

Also it's not a coincidence that when Ronaldo is scoring goals and playing well we tend to blow away opposition.

And cut the penalty crap, they all count and it's not like tap ins are harder to score.

ronaldo is supposedly the best player in the world, if you think its okay for the best player in the world to have an inflated status because he racks up goals against granada, zaragoza and osasuna meanwhile not preforming against barcelona (really the only game that matters) then i think you are misinformed. hes scoring over a goal a game but he scores in less than half of our matches though its great for stats, its not great for results.

Zealous wrote:I personally don't. Even if he doesn't score Ronaldo being on the pitch releases everyone else from man marking.

Also it's not a coincidence that when Ronaldo is scoring goals and playing well we tend to blow away opposition.

And cut the penalty crap, they all count and it's not like tap ins are harder to score.

diptiman wrote:

raulmadrid4vr wrote:out of 18 la liga game, he has scored 14 goals (penalties not included) and those 14 goals came in 8 games. so he didnt score in 10 games out of 18 games this season.

these are the 8 games he scored in:

6-0 drubbing of zaragoza
6-2 drubbing of rayo vallecano
4-0 drubbing of malaga
7-1 drubbing of osasuna
3-2 vs valencia
3-0 drubbing of sporting gijon
6-2 drubbing of sevilla
5-1 drubbing of granada

such valuable goals and a great scorer. we would definitely be in relegation zone without his crucial game savers.

and how do you think does drubbings were produced..

for eg
villa is an el clasico flop

he scored 2 goals in a 5-0 drubbing of madrid, nothing special

get my drift?

do you actually think we would not win those drubbings if cristiano didnt play?

villa is playing out of position. he might have missed some chances but hes no ibra.

Zeal....sure.. but to really be effective he needs to use that attention to make the right plays.

Being on the right certainly wouldn't hurt.

There's one thing that ronaldo does even when he doesn't play well; he takes man markers off of players like benz and higuain.

We have the statistics of the stars of other teams? We have the statistics of the other strikers in La Liga? We can compare the goals of Cristiano Ronaldo with other players? There is talk of a football player who won the Golden Shoe #@!?... It is a process that I do not understand "
Mourinho

Some of you guys rate him so high ( we all remmember those too much messi vs ronaldo thning ) People were like Cr is most complete and blabla or messi can't play in PL or ... well you know

Then today those guys realize that Messi is definitively going to be a legend, and is a pure genius, a gifted player so they start these thread about Cr being shit but the truth is he is one of the best of his generation. he is outstanding !!

IT is just a shock for you that he is not at messi level so after claiming he is top player , better than messi, people are claiming he is overated
yes he was Overated by YOU , you know who you are..

*Edited due to Insults*

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deezydeez wrote:

Zealous wrote:I personally don't. Even if he doesn't score Ronaldo being on the pitch releases everyone else from man marking.

Also it's not a coincidence that when Ronaldo is scoring goals and playing well we tend to blow away opposition.

And cut the penalty crap, they all count and it's not like tap ins are harder to score.

ronaldo is supposedly the best player in the world, if you think its okay for the best player in the world to have an inflated status because he racks up goals against granada, zaragoza and osasuna meanwhile not preforming against barcelona (really the only game that matters) then i think you are misinformed. hes scoring over a goal a game but he scores in less than half of our matches though its great for stats, its not great for results.

how does he play in champions league broo