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Re: terry going to court

Post by TheRedStag on Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:39 pm

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mr-r34 wrote:Can the Fa hand down any punishment of their own? or is the courts verdict final?
I would assume the court has the final say.

Yes, they have final say on a criminal offence, but that wouldnt stop the FA having their own investigation. Big ban could be coming still.

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Post by mr-r34 on Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:40 pm

This is interesting then, the fa have shown, they don't need concrete proof to hand down a punishment.

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Post by Le Samourai on Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:43 pm

Doubt he gets away completely without a suspension.


Would make Enlgish football a joke after they clutched at straws and suspended Suarez.

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Re: terry going to court

Post by Emaharg on Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:46 pm

Interesting.....
Suarez and Terry cases are quite similar, FA can really look like idiots now.

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Post by TheRedStag on Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:47 pm

FA hit idiocy rock bottom a long time ago.

This cant really harm them any more.

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Post by Nishy on Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:49 pm

Le Samourai wrote:Doubt he gets away completely without a suspension.


Would make Enlgish football a joke after they clutched at straws and suspended Suarez.

Its already a joke, That said, Even Suarez is dumb.

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Post by Le Samourai on Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:53 pm

Word against word without the slightest hint of actual evidence got Suarez a 8 game ban.

Video evidence and nothing happens?

That would be worse with anything I saw in recent memory...In La liga they are consistent with there ineptness Very Happy

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Re: terry going to court

Post by Nishy on Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:59 pm

I expected the decision to go Terry's way the moment the FA gave the case to the court and announced that the case will be examined after the Euros.

Not sure why people are surprised here.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:12 pm

Thing is Terry did'nt do anything wrong, the verdict is correct.

As far as Suarez goes, that really shows how f*ckin retarded the FA are.

But i dont consider Terry and Suarez cases to be similar, there was proof Suarez uttered certain words.

No such proof with Terry.

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Post by Blue Barrett on Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:18 pm

The FA are a joke in so many aspects. The whole case is just total shambles. Its so funny how the media are quick to apply the "trial by media" verdict on someone. Even though they don't actually say it directly, they do everything to imply that you're guilty. Suarez getting an 8 match ban had a lot to do with the media.

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Post by TheRedStag on Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:20 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Thing is Terry did'nt do anything wrong, the verdict is correct.

As far as Suarez goes, that really shows how f*ckin retarded the FA are.

But i dont consider Terry and Suarez cases to be similar, there was proof Suarez uttered certain words.

No such proof with Terry.

Not entirely true as Terry admitted to calling Ferdinand a "*bleep* black *bleep*" but his defense was "sarcastic exclamation"

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:24 pm

Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Thing is Terry did'nt do anything wrong, the verdict is correct.

As far as Suarez goes, that really shows how f*ckin retarded the FA are.

But i dont consider Terry and Suarez cases to be similar, there was proof Suarez uttered certain words.

No such proof with Terry.

Not entirely true as Terry admitted to calling Ferdinand a "*bleep* black *bleep*" but his defense was "sarcastic exclamation"

Suppose, although Anton Ferdinand's case wasn't exactly convincing tbh.

So i believe Terry's words, he also claimed this in his interview with the FA over a year ago.

So yeah the correct verdict IMO, for what it's worth i considered Suarez ban extremely harsh.

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Re: terry going to court

Post by TheRedStag on Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:27 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Irish_Catalan_Scouser wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Thing is Terry did'nt do anything wrong, the verdict is correct.

As far as Suarez goes, that really shows how f*ckin retarded the FA are.

But i dont consider Terry and Suarez cases to be similar, there was proof Suarez uttered certain words.

No such proof with Terry.

Not entirely true as Terry admitted to calling Ferdinand a "*bleep* black *bleep*" but his defense was "sarcastic exclamation"

Suppose, although Anton Ferdinand's case wasn't exactly convincing tbh.

So i believe Terry's words, he also claimed this in his interview with the FA over a year ago.

So yeah the correct verdict IMO, for what it's worth i considered Suarez ban extremely harsh.

Oh, I agree the verdict was absolutely correct as I stated a couple of pages back.

Tbh I dont want to reopen the Suarez can of worms. It still infuriates me.


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Post by justdoit_ on Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:47 pm

This is all very stupid, I'll just say.

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Re: terry going to court

Post by The Messiah on Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:28 pm

No matter the excuses English/Chelsea people come here and give, the truth is that every adult who followed Suarez and now Terry case, know for sure that they are indeed unjust people and masters of double standard.


Disgrace...

I mean it's not like the first time or as if we didn't already know what the verdict will be.


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Post by Blue Barrett on Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:28 pm

The Messiah wrote:No matter the excuses English people come here and give, the truth is that every adult who followed Suarez and now Terry case, no for sure that they are indeed unjust people and masters of double standard.


Disgrace...
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Re: terry going to court

Post by RealGunner on Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:03 pm

waste of taxpayers money

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Re: terry going to court

Post by RedOranje on Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:31 pm

mr-r34 wrote:Can the Fa hand down any punishment of their own? or is the courts verdict final?

Barrettinator wrote:
mr-r34 wrote:Can the Fa hand down any punishment of their own? or is the courts verdict final?
I would assume the court has the final say.

Considering the FA have set a precedent where they require less evidence to convict (balance of probability vs reasonable doubt), it would stand to reason that they will now hold their own investigation. Not sure how often the FA follow the reasonable path, though.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Thing is Terry did'nt do anything wrong, the verdict is correct.

As far as Suarez goes, that really shows how f*ckin retarded the FA are.

But i dont consider Terry and Suarez cases to be similar, there was proof Suarez uttered certain words.

No such proof with Terry.

There was more proof that Terry potentially said such words than Suarez, as there was actual video to be analysed.

Beyond the video, it comes down to witness testimony. In both cases the defendants testified that they DID say something but that it was misconstrued; one due to cultural differences (and backed by linguistic experts) and the other due to missing context. The cases are similar enough, except for the video evidence.

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