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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:40 pm

Well DROR its kinda a mixture of two, he does soemthings required of a 10 and other things required of a 9 but either way it stops Ben Arfa playing.......

Cabaye Tiote Gutierrez
Ben Arfa
Ba
New CF

Kind of a weird 4-3-1-2 into a 4-4-2 mix........

Ben Arfa is actually outwide on the right but i cant do it lol.

Basically RAM with Gutierrez LCM/LM......


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:50 pm

FFS Ben Arfa been dropped......
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Post by Dutti Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:55 pm

Who's behind Newcastle's brilliant signings (Ba, Santon, Tiote, Ben Arfa)?

Got to respect the guy :bow:
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Post by Zealous Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:56 pm

That goal was epic no doubt.

Ben Arfa has talent but his attitude was what usually holds him back.
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Post by Zealous Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:56 pm

Dutti wrote:Who's behind Newcastle's brilliant signings (Ba, Santon, Tiote, Ben Arfa)?

Got to respect the guy :bow:

Ashley :bow:
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Post by guest7 Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:48 pm



HQ of the goal
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Post by donttreadonred Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:18 pm

Here's an interesting read on the Pardew-Ben Arfa relationship. It really gave me a new perspective on why he's not regularly starting. It probably gives a bit too much credit to Pardew and his man-management skills/evil genius, but I suppose it's possible.

http://www.leazesterrace.com/pardew-ben-arfa-13jan2012/
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:28 pm

Ashley is not behind the signings, our head scout Graham Carr is......

Btw you missed out on Cabaye Very Happy
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Post by Zealous Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:32 pm

But who hired Carr?

Ashley :bow:
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:55 pm

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Post by vivabarca38 Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:04 pm

What a player.didnt watch the game but from the video it looks that he was absoloutely fantastic.A fantastic goal and 2 fantastic assists and some dribbles that are better than what messi has offered this season.
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Post by Zealous Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:08 pm

:bow:
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Post by sportsczy Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:45 pm

Needs to get consistent. Always had a few moments of brilliance followed by a lot of inconsistency.

If he can get it together, fantastic talent.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:50 pm

He's been consistent this year, he just hasnt had consistent game time.......

Has 4 goals and 7 assists in 18 league games which equates to a G/A every 80.9 mins.

Now we have found a system which suits him and the team and one that is balanced defensively i see him ending the season with a bang.
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Post by sportsczy Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:52 pm

great news for France NT bounce

Getting Nasri out of the lineup was on my New Year's wish list.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:02 pm

Pardew was basically inviting Blanc to watch him lol in his post match press conference......

Saying "i advise the french coach to come and watch him theres not many players that can do what he does, he can be a nice wildcard for France to have"
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Post by Be/\/ceCALI Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:37 pm

He is incredible. One of the most exciting players to watch
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Post by donttreadonred Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:00 pm

He is exciting to watch. Though, the whole situation seems odd to me. He;s an impact player, for sure, but Pardew seemed reluctant to play him for most of the season. He even favored Obertan over him on the right at times.

I suppose the defensive duties is what Pardew was concerned about, because he seemed to fit well in the new system.
(It was a 4-3-3 with:
Ba - Cisse - Ben Arfa
Gutierrez - Cabaye - Guthrie
wasn't it?) There was an interesting article a little while back that suggested Pardew was managing Ben Arfa's ego as much as his talent and finding his place in the squad. In all, I just find his situation confusing, as he is obviously a very talented player, but has been given relatively few chances this season.

As for France, I can see him making the squad, but rumors of Nasri's benching have been greatly exaggerated. I doubt very much that he will be able to sufficiently prove himself prior to the Euros to secure a starting place as the CAM over Nasri (especially since he hasn't been playing there for Newcastle). More likely that he could replace Valbuena on the right. The best bet for Nasri being dropped is if Blanc goes with a 4-2-2-2:
Benzema - Remy/Giroud
Ribery - - - - - - Valbuena/Ben Arfa
Cabaye - M'Vila
Even then, he would probably play in one of the wide roles.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:28 pm

Pardew was trying to fit him in the team and not make us defensively weak and the fact Simpson is at RB doesnt help.....

We now play a 4-3-3, which suits him and the team much more than 4-4-2 it also allows to play a midfield 3 instead of a midfield 2 which means we dont lose the midfield battle it also free's up Cabaye.

It's also a much more fluid system and allows to attack but be defensively balanced which 4-4-2 didnt allow.

At the weekend we played.......

Krul
Simpson Williamson Colo Perch
Guthrie Jonas
Cabaye
Ben Arfa Cisse Ba

Another thing it does is let the front 3 interchange because of the movement all 3 of them have which makes us very dangerous going forward.

The negatives currently is lack of depth in midfield and defence and fullbacks that are crap in possession but that will be sorted out in the summer.

I dont see a outcome where Ben Arfa gets dropped again, this is a system that suits him and also suits the players and allows to be more fluid when going forward while also remaining defensive balance.

This will be the formation we use going forward which was always the plan but we finally have players fit and in form that fit it.

Now all we need is the depth and some improvements in some areas it we will be able to use it everyweek.

I am still worried about Liverpool tho on Sunday, despite these improvements Colo is injured so will line up like this......

Krul
Simpson Williamson Perch Santon
Tiote Jonas
Cabaye
Ben Arfa Cisse Ba

The other thing is Ben Arfa has improved his work rate while mantaining his threat going forward and Jonas is a much better CM than he ever was a winger it fits all his attributes and he completely ran the midfield against West Brom.

So in a word all the obstacles both Pardew and Ben Arfa had to overcome has been overcome and i dont see him being dropped again......

He will be rotated and rested next season yes because we will likely be in Europe but he will playing more often than not for now on.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:30 pm

Mole we dont care about Toons, enough with the long posts Very Happy
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:33 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Mole we dont care about Toons, enough with the long posts Very Happy

DROR is he admitted to me before he is a closet toon fan Very Happy
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Post by McAgger Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:57 pm

Shocked Is that Sportsczy? Welcome back mate
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Post by Lex Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:38 pm

Literally did a Maradona to put Newcastle up against Bolton :bow:

Deserves to go to the Euros ahead of bucktoothed lesbian
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Post by LeBéninois Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:54 pm

Should be at Euro , that goal affraid
happy for him
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Post by vivabarca38 Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:59 pm

Lex wrote:Literally did a Maradona to put Newcastle up against Bolton Hatem Ben Arfa - Page 2 1499845164

Deserves to go to the Euros ahead of bucktoothed lesbian
Hahahahhah ☀
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Post by arabprince Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:02 pm

vid please
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