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Post by Die Borussen on Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:10 pm

dont get me wrong but if it wasnt for his attacking abilities which are extremely good i wouldnt want him to start any tough game specially against top top clubs. but since he is able to tottally change our attack's quality by going forward, any of his defensive vunerabilites are acceptable at least for the most

--On the other hand we have coentrao whom his defensive quality is extraordinary plus he is quite good offensivly that he deserves to be a starter at least in important games where our opponent is a quality one

you trust marcelo?
i will be pleased if for the games we r going to play attacking coentrao starts isntead of him since our attack is more than enough to handle any situation

so the way marcelo would be more usefull is to mostly come as a sub considering we are losing and we go full attack for a comeback OR in safe games such us ones against relegation zone teams In My Opinion always


(NOTE: sorry if there is a similar topic here, didnt bother checking xD)

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Post by Ganso on Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:12 pm

huntsman?
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Post by Pedram on Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:14 pm

Marcelo is on a run of bad form but i agree that Coentrao defend better than him.
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Post by izzy on Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:14 pm

Someone watched Revista De La Liga huh? hmm
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Post by Lord Hades on Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:25 pm

coentrao's defensive ability isnt extraordinary lmfao

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Post by Kuru on Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:57 pm

Not again...
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Post by Funkentelechy on Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:22 pm

The new Pipita v Benzema debates :bow:
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Post by Die Borussen on Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:57 pm

do you know a better LB defensively than coentrao diptiman? if you know then feel free to share it... and dont tell me either abidal or cole, i dont buy it!

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Post by Ganso on Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:59 pm

Abidal,Cole,Lahm.....
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Post by guest7 on Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:02 pm

I'll bump this thread next week or Malaga or w/e Marcelo decides to return but I'm expect a bump nevertheless. Very Happy
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Post by Mamad on Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:06 pm

@Ganso wrote:Abidal,Cole,Lahm.....


Coentrao is on par with them if not better.

anyway for our LB there is no player better than Marcelo. he is one of our future stars and few bad games will not change that.

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Post by hrealmadrid on Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:11 pm

deadrave, not sure about your post but I love your avatar
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Post by Die Borussen on Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:25 pm

cole is overrated!
i buy it with lahm
abidal.. seriously? haha how did you came to that conclusion? an above average attacker can eat him alive
do i need to remind you how jesus navas embaressed him?
just cause some1 plays at barca doesnt nessecerly make him the best. jeez.





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Post by Ganso on Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:29 pm

Abidal is a rock solid defender,i can count on my fingers the amount of the times ive seen someone get past him
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Post by Lord Hades on Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:14 am

please dont embarass yourself man. coentrao doesnt have extraordinary defensive ability.. there are quite a few better than him

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Post by Le Samourai on Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:35 am

What is going on with this section :facepalm:

Corentrao is very good defender tho.....I always presumed that Mou was buying him to play.

Marcelo
Corentrao(midfield)
Ron/Di Maria

to press Alves back and exploit his weak defense.He hasn't done that but who knows that may be due to injuries.I still think that Arb and Ronaldo on the right and Marcelo and Di maria on the left would be much more effective tin the overall scheme of things.


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Post by Die Borussen on Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:04 am

i dont embarass my self. i said IN MY OPINION. i do believe he is one of the best if not the best and you not gonna change that you cant even mention any. shake my head! maybe you r thinking cole or abidal eh? hahahahah lmao

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Post by Ganso on Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:09 am

Bro this doesn't even come down to opinion lol,it's pretty much a fact.....how can you say that someone who isn't even a starter is the best fb at defending?
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Post by Mamad on Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:31 am

Ganso you think if Abidal or Cole or Lahm come to Madrid they will be starters?

Lahm maybe, but Abidal or Cole i don't think so.

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Post by halamadrid2 on Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:42 am

why is Huntsman back??

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Post by Die Borussen on Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:25 am

who the hell is huntsman?

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Post by SuperMAG on Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:30 am

Contrao is a very solid Lb, you can see it when he is closing spaces in the backline and tracking every attacker that comes from central and wing area.

Not to mention his accurate tackling, the tackling that stopped messi and ineasta on few occations.

Contrao might not be the best defensive LB in the world, but he is very close to them.

Marcelo as a defender sucks especially when he is in bad form, but Marcelo is a very unique attacker. His attacking qualities are almost superior to all other LB's.

But right now i wouldnt play marcelo anywhere in backline. Contrao should play there until marcelo recovers form, and also marcelo can play in midfeild better then contrao.

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Post by Doc on Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:49 pm

One, that isn't Huntsman. I reckon this is a new poster and welcome to the forums sir. Also, no I do not think Marcelo is the weak link in the squad. I think the squad in itself can be it's own enemy as I've seen defenders caught out of position on numerous occasions. Midfielders not tracking their man or zonal marking properly, strikers not finishing their chances in games where you need to be clinical.

It's not fair to pin point one player as the weak link when it is a team effort to attack and defend. Now they are games where a player makes a mistake that costs the team dearly but that should not be an indicator that that player is the reason behind the team's faltering ways.

With that being said, not too long ago I would have taken Cole or Lahm easily over Marcelo but I would not be doing that any time soon. I've said this before that it is not whether a player is better than another, it is if said player can be good for the team as what we currently have and Marcelo is great for us. Simple pimple logic really....

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Post by Onyx on Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:10 pm

If Marcelo does play he needs to attack like he usually does. Last Clasico he didn't really attack much.
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Post by guest7 on Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:13 pm

Marcelo has been overweight after the holiday break apparently.

Balague says so. Not to mention he has looked slower/fat lately.

Stupid and irresponsable. Needs to get abit bench time.
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