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Post by CBarca on Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:17 am

Ramos is a good defender overall, but he's incredibly error prone. If he weren't the heart of Madrid and the most clutch sportsman of all time at Madrid and instead was at, say, City...people would eat him alive for his errors and his shortcomings as a CB.

That wouldn't be fair though, because he is the heart of Madrid and he IS imo the most clutch sportsman of all time. You can't take that away from him and that's a valuable trait. He's got leadership, heart, passion, and incredible clutch factor.

That being said. He's a good defender. I wouldn't say he's much more.

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Post by vanDEEZ on Sun Dec 11, 2016 5:26 am

I think we have finally solved our striker problem.
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Post by Valkyrja on Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:22 am

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Post by rincon on Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:47 pm

@RealGunner wrote:Yea because he managed to make a career at one of the biggest club in the world for over a decade while being an integral part of one of the most dominating national team in history purely because of clutch goals right?



Lets not get carried away and rewrite history now. Look at Spain's CBs since their success began and find a decent alternative besides Pique and Puyol. None, they were all pretty much scrubs. To that point, Ramos played as RB in 2 of the three tournaments they won. He only became a full time CB for Spain after Puyol retired.

So no, as a CB is not world class, or even that close to it. He is a great leader and scores the most clutch of goals, but no CB in a top team gets by with as many mistakes as Ramos. He plays like a young Bonucci when he made costly mistakes ever other game.

How many times a month do you hear "Ramos screwed up on the goal"?

If he hadn't been a long time real madrid player (a place which he won as a right back) he wouldn't have been signed as CB.
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Post by Valkyrja on Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:43 pm

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@RealGunner wrote:Yea because he managed to make a career at one of the biggest club in the world for over a decade while being an integral part of one of the most dominating national team in history purely because of clutch goals right?



Lets not get carried away and rewrite history now. Look at Spain's CBs since their success began and find a decent alternative besides Pique and Puyol. None, they were all pretty much scrubs. To that point, Ramos played as RB in 2 of the three tournaments they won. He only became a full time CB for Spain after Puyol retired.

So no, as a CB is not world class, or even that close to it. He is a great leader and scores the most clutch of goals, but no CB in a top team gets by with as many mistakes as Ramos. He plays like a young Bonucci when he made costly mistakes ever other game.

How many times a month do you hear "Ramos screwed up on the goal"?

If he hadn't been a long time real madrid player (a place which he won as a right back) he wouldn't have been signed as CB.


Well, Ramos was signed as a CB. He was labelled Hierro's heir when he was signed in 05-06 and he played as a CB that season. The following season he was converted by Capello to RB. He became a full-time CB in 11-12.

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Post by rincon on Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:46 pm

Yeah but that was a kid with a lot of promise that everyone thought would amount to a great defender, its normal for young defenders to make a lot of mistakes as you need a lot of experience. I mean this version of Ramos, who never grew out of his mistakes and loss of concentration.
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Post by vanDEEZ on Sun Dec 11, 2016 6:00 pm

Yes, Ramos has been scoring crucial goals lately, and has had a great career of scoring big goals, and I am very grateful, but he is still a very error prone defender.

Once his career is over we will all forgive and forget the errors and probably only remember the big goals/performances he has had in his career.  On paper he is probably one of the best CB's of his era (looking at titles/big performances/goals).

Anyone think he will go down like Hierro as everyone expected as a youngster?
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Post by Valkyrja on Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:53 am


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Post by Valkyrja on Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:59 pm

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Post by Firenze on Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:01 pm

the ultimate goal scoring CB

his hunger for goals ffs

attacks a cross like no other
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:02 pm

@Firenze wrote:the ultimate goal scoring CB

his hunger for goals ffs

attacks a cross like no other


Shame he doesn't have any hunger for defending.

Inb4 fanboys on his nuts start crying.
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Post by jibers on Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:06 pm

@Firenze wrote:the ultimate goal scoring CB

his hunger for goals ffs

attacks a cross like no other


Ronald Koeman is laughing somewhere in Liverpool.

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Post by Myesyats on Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:56 pm

@Firenze wrote:the ultimate goal scoring CB

his hunger for goals ffs

attacks a cross like no other

Too bad he is not good at what he's supposed to be good at.
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Post by Valkyrja on Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:09 pm

@Myesyats wrote:
@Firenze wrote:the ultimate goal scoring CB

his hunger for goals ffs

attacks a cross like no other

Too bad he is not good at what he's supposed to be good at.


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Post by CBarca on Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:30 pm

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Should retire for doing this imo

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Post by S on Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:34 pm

Lost respect for Ramos after seeing that. smh
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Post by Thimmy on Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:35 pm

His celebration for the first goal cracked me up. Don't know exactly what he was trying to do there Razz

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Post by LeVersacci on Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:37 pm

@Thimmy wrote:His celebration for the first goal cracked me up. Don't know exactly what he was trying to do there Razz
When white people attempt to dab imo

Also thought we left it in 2016.
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Post by Thimmy on Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:55 pm

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@Thimmy wrote:His celebration for the first goal cracked me up. Don't know exactly what he was trying to do there Razz
When white people attempt to dab imo

Also thought we left it in 2016.


It wasn't the dab, that was after the second goal. He did some kind of microphone gesture before he fell to the ground. Don't know what he was about to do. Man Utd paid £90m for a live dab advertisement, so I doubt it's gonna disappear all of a sudden Laughing

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Post by LeVersacci on Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:37 pm

Definition of clutch
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Post by jibers on Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:40 pm

Great goal scorer, subpar defender, wins you cups, loses you leagues.

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Post by rincon on Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:41 pm

Everyone should stop pretending and just bench Benzema for Ramos and be done with it.
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Post by M99 on Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:42 pm

Unbelievable. You just knew he was scoring the equaliser.

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Post by halamadrid2 on Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:08 pm

Credit should also go to Kroos who puts inch perfect crosses time after time

Uefa just stole one of his goals today smh
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Post by sportsczy on Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:17 pm

He scores goals... at an incredible rate. But his defense...

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Post by Lucifer on Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:20 pm

Zidane should start calling him Godfather for saving his ass time and again.
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