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Re: The Three Lions

Post by Unique on Mon May 16, 2016 8:57 pm

@Jay29 wrote:
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@Jay29 wrote:If you've watched England at all throughout qualifying you'd know Wilshere was one of their best performers. He's not going because of some hokey potential, but because in an England shirt he always performs.
and if you have watched England at all you would know that how England perform in a easy qualifying group has nothing to do with how they play in the eoros/world cup propper

So we should leave out all the players that performed well during qualifying because it's an easy group?

Hodgson should get stick for some things but picking players that he knows performs for him, works well in the systems he plans to play and has good on-pitch relationships with other players over some players who have two months of decent PL form is not one of them.
no I'm not saying that. I'm saying don't think a player will do well just because they looked good in a easy group.

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Re: The Three Lions

Post by RealGunner on Mon May 16, 2016 9:02 pm

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@RealGunner wrote:Why would we drop Wilshere? Doesn't matter if he has 1 app or 2. He is still our best midfielder.

Who would go instead? Delph or Noble? Laughing



What makes Wilshere so great exactly? He's always been about potential that he's never reached. Offensively his best PL season is 3 goals and 4 assists. To put that in perspective, Henderson has bettered that in four PL seasons, Noble five times and Milner seven times.


Best technical midfielder we have by a mile. Can actually control the ball and not chase his first touch across france unlike 90% in the squad. Most creative midfielder we have. Best dribbler we have in midfield. Can actually pass the ball forward instead of backwards or sideways.

Been our best midfielder in qualifiers.

No reason not to take him.

Some of you guys would rather have a midfield of Drinkwater-Dier-Noble just because they have had a great season in the PL. Same PL where Leicester are champions, reigning champions Chelsea are in midtable and West ham are finishing 3 points below the top 4.

No wonder we do shit in tournaments. 'hard working' 'great inform players from shit clubs' being preferred over players who actually belong at the Euros amongst the elite
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Re: The Three Lions

Post by RealGunner on Mon May 16, 2016 9:02 pm

@Unique wrote:
@Jay29 wrote:
@Unique wrote:
@Jay29 wrote:If you've watched England at all throughout qualifying you'd know Wilshere was one of their best performers. He's not going because of some hokey potential, but because in an England shirt he always performs.
and if you have watched England at all you would know that how England perform in a easy qualifying group has nothing to do with how they play in the eoros/world cup propper

So we should leave out all the players that performed well during qualifying because it's an easy group?

Hodgson should get stick for some things but picking players that he knows performs for him, works well in the systems he plans to play and has good on-pitch relationships with other players over some players who have two months of decent PL form is not one of them.
no I'm not saying that. I'm saying don't think a player will do well just because they looked good in a easy group.


So what kind of players will do well then?
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Re: The Three Lions

Post by Unique on Mon May 16, 2016 9:04 pm

@RealGunner wrote:
@Art Morte wrote:
@RealGunner wrote:Why would we drop Wilshere? Doesn't matter if he has 1 app or 2. He is still our best midfielder.

Who would go instead? Delph or Noble? Laughing



What makes Wilshere so great exactly? He's always been about potential that he's never reached. Offensively his best PL season is 3 goals and 4 assists. To put that in perspective, Henderson has bettered that in four PL seasons, Noble five times and Milner seven times.


Best technical midfielder we have by a mile. Can actually control the ball and not chase his first touch across france unlike 90% in the squad. Most creative midfielder we have. Best dribbler we have in midfield. Can actually pass the ball forward instead of backwards or sideways.

Been our best midfielder in qualifiers.

No reason not to take him.

Some of you guys would rather have a midfield of Drinkwater-Dier-Noble just because they have had a great season in the PL. Same PL where Leicester are champions, reigning champions Chelsea are in midtable and West ham are finishing 3 points below the top 4.

No wonder we do shit in tournaments. 'hard working' 'great inform players from shit clubs' being preferred over players who actually belong at the Euros amongst the elite
and there is that club bias I was talking about Laughing

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Re: The Three Lions

Post by Unique on Mon May 16, 2016 9:05 pm

@RealGunner wrote:
@Unique wrote:
@Jay29 wrote:

So we should leave out all the players that performed well during qualifying because it's an easy group?

Hodgson should get stick for some things but picking players that he knows performs for him, works well in the systems he plans to play and has good on-pitch relationships with other players over some players who have two months of decent PL form is not one of them.
no I'm not saying that. I'm saying don't think a player will do well just because they looked good in a easy group.


So what kind of players will do well then?
I doubt any of them will do well tbh. but imo we should play fit players that are on the back of a good season where possible. no point picking a player because he had a good game 2 years ago.

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Re: The Three Lions

Post by RealGunner on Sun May 22, 2016 4:06 pm

England XI vs. Turkey: Hart, Walker, Cahill, Stones, Rose, Dier, Wilshere, Alli, Sterling, Vardy, Kane.
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Re: The Three Lions

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sun May 22, 2016 4:07 pm

I like that midfield.

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Re: The Three Lions

Post by RealGunner on Sun May 22, 2016 4:09 pm

Yea same. Decent attack too.
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Re: The Three Lions

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sun May 22, 2016 4:12 pm

Shame about the back 4 Laughing

Although I'm unsure on the forwards, we'll see how it goes.

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Re: The Three Lions

Post by Jay29 on Sun May 22, 2016 5:12 pm

Apparently it's 4-3-3 and not 4-3-1-2.

That'd be my first choice midfield though.
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Re: The Three Lions

Post by RealGunner on Sun May 22, 2016 5:13 pm

Rooney will probably take Wilshere's place.

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Re: The Three Lions

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sun May 22, 2016 5:15 pm

Really think he's going to copy Van Gaal with the whole Roonay in mf thing lol? I hope not.

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Re: The Three Lions

Post by RealGunner on Sun May 22, 2016 5:15 pm

A way to play Kane and rooney in the same team? Roy must be glad LVG is playing rooney in midfield lol



how come Emirates never host england matches?
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Re: The Three Lions

Post by Jay29 on Sun May 22, 2016 5:16 pm

Good to see the Emptihad is living up to its name.

And we should be 1-0 up already lol.
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Post by RealGunner on Sun May 22, 2016 5:17 pm

Kane what a finish

1-0!!
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Post by Jay29 on Sun May 22, 2016 5:18 pm

1-0. Kane. Alli assist. Looked offside.

The lulz when Rooney is playing as the 9 against Russia.
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Post by RealGunner on Sun May 22, 2016 5:18 pm

Looked miles offside
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Re: The Three Lions

Post by Jay29 on Sun May 22, 2016 5:20 pm

Should be 1-1.

This England team will keep zero clean sheets.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sun May 22, 2016 5:20 pm

@RealGunner wrote:A way to play Kane and rooney in the same team? Roy must be glad LVG is playing rooney in midfield lol



how come Emirates never host england matches?


I'd rather he not play at all tbh.

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Re: The Three Lions

Post by rincon on Sun May 22, 2016 5:26 pm

England looks good but that was waaaaay offside
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Re: The Three Lions

Post by RealGunner on Sun May 22, 2016 5:28 pm

HAKAN pls come at Arsenal


1-1
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Post by Jay29 on Sun May 22, 2016 5:29 pm

1-1. Calhanoglu.

Ozyakup just split our whole defence open. Rose' positioning rofl
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Re: The Three Lions

Post by RealGunner on Sun May 22, 2016 5:29 pm

Rose Laughing
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Re: The Three Lions

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sun May 22, 2016 5:31 pm

We are never going to keep a clean sheet Laughing

Probably will be a fun watch for the neutrals.

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Re: The Three Lions

Post by Jay29 on Sun May 22, 2016 5:33 pm

We could do with calming things down and keeping the ball a bit more. Wilshere and Alli barely seeing it in midfield.
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Re: The Three Lions

Post by RealGunner on Sun May 22, 2016 5:35 pm

Dier could be a fraud


watch this space

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