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Post by Donuts on Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:23 pm

luis has been more consistent then Marcelo this season, hell marcelo doesn't make it into the starting 11 for Madrid, due to inconsistency or injuries.

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Post by BusterLfc on Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:45 pm

I totally forgot about Luisao.
He should start alongside T.Silva.

He had a beast of a season, probably the best in his career.
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Post by BusterLfc on Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:31 pm

Forgot about Miranda too..

It's going to be a tight decision on the two CBs, obviously T.Silva has his spot reserved but it will be an interesting fight over the second spot
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed May 07, 2014 3:42 pm

Brazil WC team announced

Felipao :facepalm:

Porteros: Julio Cesar (Toronto), Jefferson (Botafogo) y Victor (Atlético Mineiro).

Defensas: Dani Alves (Barcelona), Maicon (Roma), Marcelo (Real Madrid), Maxwell (PSG), Thiago Silva (PSG), Dante (Bayern), David Luiz (Chelsea) y Henrique (Nápoles).

Centrocampistas: Luiz Gustavo (Wolfsburgo), Paulinho (Tottenham), Ramires (Chelsea), Fernandinho (Manchester City), Oscar (Chelsea), Willian (Chelsea) y Hernanes (Inter).

Delanteros: Neymar (Barcelona), Bernard (Shakhtar), Fred (Fluminense), Hulk (Zenit) y Jo (Atlético Mineiro).


No Filipe Luis who is better than marcelo and maxwell put together and injected with cafu dna; No Miranda and he calls up some scrub of Napoli; No Coutinho Laughing

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Post by M99 on Wed May 07, 2014 8:12 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:
No Filipe Luis who is better than marcelo and maxwell put together and injected with cafu dna; No Miranda and he calls up some scrub of Napoli; No Coutinho Laughing

Agree. I would have taken Diego Alves as well. And Jonathan>Maicon.

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Post by Valkyrja on Wed May 07, 2014 8:52 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:Brazil WC team announced

Felipao :facepalm:

Porteros: Julio Cesar (Toronto), Jefferson (Botafogo) y Victor (Atlético Mineiro).

Defensas: Dani Alves (Barcelona), Maicon (Roma), Marcelo (Real Madrid), Maxwell (PSG), Thiago Silva (PSG), Dante (Bayern), David Luiz (Chelsea) y Henrique (Nápoles).

Centrocampistas: Luiz Gustavo (Wolfsburgo), Paulinho (Tottenham), Ramires (Chelsea), Fernandinho (Manchester City), Oscar (Chelsea), Willian (Chelsea) y Hernanes (Inter).

Delanteros: Neymar (Barcelona), Bernard (Shakhtar), Fred (Fluminense), Hulk (Zenit) y Jo (Atlético Mineiro).


No Filipe Luis who is better than marcelo and maxwell put together and injected with cafu dna; No Miranda and he calls up some scrub of Napoli; No Coutinho Laughing

not sure if serious  hmm 


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Post by Robespierre on Wed May 07, 2014 10:52 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:Brazil WC team announced

Felipao :facepalm:

Porteros: Julio Cesar (Toronto), Jefferson (Botafogo) y Victor (Atlético Mineiro).

Defensas: Dani Alves (Barcelona), Maicon (Roma), Marcelo (Real Madrid), Maxwell (PSG), Thiago Silva (PSG), Dante (Bayern), David Luiz (Chelsea) y Henrique (Nápoles).

Centrocampistas: Luiz Gustavo (Wolfsburgo), Paulinho (Tottenham), Ramires (Chelsea), Fernandinho (Manchester City), Oscar (Chelsea), Willian (Chelsea) y Hernanes (Inter).

Delanteros: Neymar (Barcelona), Bernard (Shakhtar), Fred (Fluminense), Hulk (Zenit) y Jo (Atlético Mineiro).


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Worst Brazil attack since ... ?
Surely it's is the worst I remember.
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Post by Ganso on Wed May 07, 2014 11:12 pm

and surely it will bring us the title

felipao, getting milk out of rocks Proud
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Post by Robespierre on Wed May 07, 2014 11:36 pm

well of course this is another story. the same Brazil reminds us how the opinions "on paper" are often useless
the Brazil 1994  Sad was much less strong than other Brazil  , with Serie A flop Mazinho and Dunga as starters and yet that Brazil is Champion of the world , others Brazil as 1982  Smile not.
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Post by Ganso on Wed May 07, 2014 11:47 pm

our nt has a history of players not performing in clubs but performing for the nt which is pretty interesting.I think Oscar and specially Luiz are the biggest examples of it now

but yeah,even if the fans trust Fred ,it is a general opinion that this is our weakest pool of CF's since 1990, maybe ever.I wont say we have a poor attack though since Neymar is the best forward after Pele in terms of goals/assists per minute
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Post by Robespierre on Thu May 08, 2014 12:11 am

poor attack contextualized to the past of course.
Even Neymar is not to level than Romario or Ronaldo for example ... maybe tbf  even Brazil 1982 had poor CF ( on paper you had GOAT Careca , but he missed WC because he  got injured..)  but compensated this lack with amazing midfielders and AM ...

Said this ... I think Brazilians have great confidence in Scolari , rightly after the brilliant job in 2002 when the Brazil played the WC as outsider and it won it ( and we come back to previous matter, Brazil is good to overturn opinions " on papers" ... from one to the other ... )

in World Cup it is essential to be a compact group more than individualities, as Italy 2006 learns , or I remember the Brazil 1998 ( it was my 2nd NT after Italy because there was Ronaldo Proud) .
It had the best player in the world , but it depended exclusively on him , and it was a limit for that famous final.

This Brazil has not past individualities probably, but it looks like a solid squad , as showed also in Confederations Cup thanks to Scolari's job , and for this reason it is tough .. as well as playing at home of course
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Post by Kick on Thu May 08, 2014 5:23 am

That looks like such a poor Brazil team, tbh.

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Post by M99 on Thu May 08, 2014 1:13 pm

@Kick wrote:That looks like such a poor Brazil team, tbh.

It's not poor in any way except that it is thin on CFs.

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Post by matpol on Tue May 13, 2014 7:54 pm

Brazil 7 man standby list:

Diego Cavalieri, Rafinha, Filipe Luis, Miranda, Lucas Leiva, Lucas Moura, Alan Kardec
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Post by Onyx on Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:08 pm

Scolari sacked according to Globo TV.
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Post by Funkentelechy on Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:35 pm

Tite to be chosen.

Paulinho the new captain.  :bow:
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Post by RealGunner on Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:12 am

Dunga in advanced talks with the Brazilian FA to manage Brazil's national teams, says ESPN Brasil.


lmao. They reading my posts
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Post by Ganso on Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:30 am

RG WTF, I thought of you immediately after I started reading these rumors Laughing

looks like shit is getting serious,Placar reported this Dunga news a couple of days ago and i laughed it out, but ESPN are reporting it too now so....

not sure how to feel about this
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Post by The Franchise on Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:07 am

Not in terms of how the team performed, or the level they reached.

But just on pure quality, did Dunga have more quality at his disposal then or would he have more now?

-------------------Cesar (30)--------------
Maicon (28)---Lucio (32)----Juan (31)----Bastos (26)

------------Gilberto (33)------Melo (26)---------

--------Elano (28)-----Kaka (28)----------------

--------------------Fabiano (29)----------Robinho (26)

Bench: Thiago Silva, Alves, Ramires, Baptista, Nilmar


Im thinking he had more depth with this team, especially in attack. But no player here is as good as Neymar is now. Midfield is pretty close, defence also...even though there is no real leftback the other guys at the back 3 are all calm and sensible.

Not sure really which has more overall quality.
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Post by Ganso on Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:38 am

tough question.the general consensus is that Dunga's team was really solid defensively , however he never had a player as decisive in attack as Neymar.I think that 2006-10 attack was very good as a unit, but the individuals other than Luis Fabiano didn't show consistency in terms of pure decisiveness.He will have a huge problem to resolve in the CF position which his team used to be built upon.

on the overall quality of the squad,that team was probably a level above specially since those players were veterans, but this team with Neymar,Oscar,Cou and others have potential to be better.


what makes me worried is how he detests using youth.I'm afraid young players like Coutinho,Danilo,Gabriel etc don't get a chance.I can see a lot of the players from the 14 campaign staying in the squad.Hell, I can see Luis Fabiano and Cesar getting called up Laughing

Other sources are also reporting that CBF are negotiating with him, the deal is imminent.Everybody was expecting Tite and this news came like a big shock.the fans are really frustrated/upset and unlike the non-brazil fan's opinion, the public hated his last time with the NT.

I'm a bit pessimistic, i would also want Tite, but on the bright side at least with dunga we are guaranteed to have a team that will be consistent and be competitive in the WC and in the next 2 Copa Americas
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Post by elitedam on Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:40 am

That is a tough question. At first glance, I would say that individually the players now are slightly better but they were a lot more cohesive when Dunga was coach.

My main problems with Dunga is that it'll be really ugly, a few player choices, and how we fell apart against the Dutch in the second half. It's insane looking back at Bastos playing left back going up against Robben. Melo has always been a psycho and shouldn't have never been relied on though I can sort of give Dunga a pass there because Ramires was suspended. We were weak mentally after the Dutch striked back and that was supposed to be one of our strengths.

However, the WC defeat aside, you can't argue with his results.

I'm also, like Ganso, conflicted about rehiring Dunga. Young players might not get their chance meaning no squad renovation anytime soon. But I also didn't think Tite would do anything worthwhile. The CBF has also hired a guy that has close ties to Teixeira as technical director (or some other bs title) so it looks like more of the same old shit.
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Post by The Franchise on Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:20 pm

Yeah, I feel it is very tough. The biggest problem trying to figure out which team had more quality is that Dunga's first team looked a better collective unit which in term makes the players look closer to their maximum.

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Post by sportsczy on Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:05 pm

So once again, Brazil go the route of pragmatic/defensive footy as opposed to inspired/playing footy... i guess Brazilian football is dead. It's just another team now. Really a crime imo...

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:57 pm

wow, both marcelo and alves out of brazil new list lmao. ballsy but understandable, both fairly meh for NT. Not a bad thing to give a shot to both Luis Filipe and Sandro on the left, and Danilo on the right

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Post by DeletedUser#1 on Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:19 pm

Nice to see Gil called up

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Post by Ganso on Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:22 pm

Dunga has some huge balls.Alves, Paulinho and Marcelo Laughing Cou,Everton,Rafael,Alex,Danilo and Diego *bleep* Tardelli Proud Dunga I love you (for now)

--------------Rafael---------------
-Danilo-----TS-------Miranda-F. Luis
--------Gustavo---???-------------
--Everton-----------------Coutinho--
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