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Post by The Franchise on Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:22 pm

Deng better than Carmelo...not even Deng would agree lol

Deng cannot create his own shot, think about that for a moment. He cannot get the ball, make a move and get a shot off consistently. He needs someone to move the defence around and then take advantage.

6 9, has no post up game, doesnt shoot well from range, isnt athletic, doesnt get to the rim well, has a good midrange game and thats about it offensively.

Melo is trice the player.

Melo isnt as bad defensively as people say either, he is about average.

Look at him recently, been playing powerforward and go watch his defence vs Boozer in the Bulls game a while ago.

Not only Melo, Gay is better than Deng, so is Paul Pierce, so might be Igoudala, Granger may be and in a couple years im betting Galinari goes past him too.
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Post by Blue Barrett on Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:54 pm

@The Franchise wrote:Deng better than Carmelo...not even Deng would agree lol

Deng cannot create his own shot, think about that for a moment. He cannot get the ball, make a move and get a shot off consistently. He needs someone to move the defence around and then take advantage.

6 9, has no post up game, doesnt shoot well from range, isnt athletic, doesnt get to the rim well, has a good midrange game and thats about it offensively.

Melo is trice the player.

Melo isnt as bad defensively as people say either, he is about average.

Look at him recently, been playing powerforward and go watch his defence vs Boozer in the Bulls game a while ago.

Not only Melo, Gay is better than Deng, so is Paul Pierce, so might be Igoudala, Granger may be and in a couple years im betting Galinari goes past him too.
Ye couldn't have said it any better.

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Post by I Have Mono on Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:49 pm

He carried the team when Rose was injuried. You guys need to watch him more.

And also saying Kobe plays 5 minutes of defense ? Lol he shuts people down when he has to. You saw Westbrook go 3-22. Yes Kobe doesn't deserve to be all nba defense :facepalm:

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Post by Le Samourai on Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:55 pm

I know this man, but yes , for the majority of the season, Kobe plays 5 minutes of defense a game.

He sags way off his man 3/4 of the time and is predominantly help.

Melo is a little worse , but he isn't a bad defender when he actually needs to be. He's actually a pretty good defender when they put him and the 4 and he's forced to defend bigs who back him down.

Just because he's lazy on the perimeter in the regular season dosen't mean he;s a "bad defender"

And No Kobe does not deserve to be All-NBA defense.People who actually play defense 40 minutes a game like Wade and Tony Allen deserve to be.

You're never going to get me to deny that Kobe is a great defender,I still take him to defend anyone in the league when he actually wants to defend them, but give the awards to the people who deserve it.

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Post by I Have Mono on Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:19 pm

Kobe saves energy for when it matters and people acknowledge that which is why he makes the firs team lol; while tony Allen and wade play defense against players who already suck to begin with.

In all honesty though tony allen should be first team all nba defense and Kobe should be 2nd team.

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Post by Don't call me James on Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:21 pm

Suns vs Jazz tonight.....biggest game of the season in Salt Lake City for both teams. Last chance for Nash to put together a run in the playoffs but can he secure a spot for his team?

A win for Utah would clinch them playoffs but a win for the Suns will give both teams a final shot in the last games.

It hasn't been this exciting in Phoenix since the Conference Final vs Lakers.

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Post by Bisse on Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:24 pm

By forcing the players to go to college, the league is taking away income possibilities for the players. So I think that either the one and done rule should be removed and prep to pro shold be allowed again or the players should be able to be paid in college. Officially the league says that the rule's there to protect players, but that is bs in my opinion. If players think they are ready for the nba, they should be able to sign up for the draft and then we will see if they are ready or not, but I also think that players who go undrafted should be able to go to college. The truth of the matter is, that the NCAA was scared of the evolvment of more and more top prospects entering the draft and ditching college, they make a lot of money on stuff like march madness and they are scared, that the value of their brand will drop a lot if all of the top prospects are going to the nba. Therefore it's only fair if the college players gets a piece of the cake.

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Post by Le Samourai on Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:32 pm

Perhaps Colleges can pay players..

:hungry:

But I think the whole Idea , is giving them education for job oppurtunites creating income possibilities for players.

95 % of players are better off going to college so I can see why the rule is there.

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Post by The Franchise on Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:34 pm

I dont think Wade play full out 100% effort defence for 40 minutes, I dont think Lebron, Kobe or any star does tbh.

I think its only defensive specialists who do.


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Post by I Have Mono on Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:36 pm

They get full ride scholarships to schools that cost 50,000 a year to attend and they also want to get paid hmm

They should be grateful for the wonderful free education they're recieving that other students incur debt to obtain.

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Post by Bisse on Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:29 pm

It's not much of an education they're receiving when they're only attending one year of college.
A guy like LeBron who knew, that he would never need a college education for anything should have the opportunity to enter the draft after HS. Most players would benifit from college, but it should be there own choice.

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Post by LeSwagg James on Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:08 pm

@The Franchise wrote:I think its wrong for the NBA to now allow HS players to be honest.

You can go to war but not the NBA? Nah, thats silly.

If they lack the fundementals and arent ready...dont draft them, simple.


This.. It's the teams fault for drafting a flop

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Post by dmize on Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:31 am

Artest got hit with a 7 game suspension. Pretty bullshyt if you ask me.
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Post by Le Samourai on Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:33 am

Meh, it's decent.

Still mad KG got 1 game though.

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Post by dmize on Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:42 am

@Le Samourai wrote:Meh, it's decent.

Still mad KG got 1 game though.

For that "get away from here" elbow that hardly affected Richardson?
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Post by Le Samourai on Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:49 am

It was still an intentional elbow to the face.

The fact that it hardly affected Richardson, I get that completely but I dunno if suspensions are supposed to be given based on how much it affects the other person to be fair.

Personally , just watching old videos of Lambieer and other guys , this just plain wasn't that bad.

If it wasn't Artest and If Mike effing Breen didn't act like Artest was some sort of caged animal on the air it would've been less.

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Post by I Have Mono on Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:54 am

Wow no consistency as usual.

KG who is a notoriously dirty player got a slap on the wrist(1 game)for a worse elbow(was thrown during a fight) while Metta gets 7 games.
Than you have players like Blake Griffen who are so *bleep* garbage they have to intentionally forearm defenders in the face to get dunks who goes unpunished.

Great message the league is sending.

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Post by dmize on Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:29 pm

^ That maybe one of the worst posts I've ever read on here.

"Notoriously dirty player" lmao. So what's Artest then, a role model out there?
"A worse elbow" More lmaos. Yeah that concussion causing elbow was clearly nothing compared to KG's elbow, which did what exactly to QR?
"Was throw during a fight" What? No it wasn't, lol. KG was checking on his teammate on the sidelines.
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Post by I Have Mono on Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:47 pm

Metta gets into full blown altercations where KG cheap shots people so the ref can't see cause he's a bitch.

Metta doesnt do shit like that

Other than the Palace incident everything Metta has done has been overblown.
Like the "Forearm" to jj barea lol he was trying to wrap the guy up except he's 5'9.

Just because he has no aim shouldn't change the fact that threw an elbow at the players head.

Yes no fight there

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Post by dmize on Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:34 pm

There was no "fight" until the elbow, lol. That's what you consider a fight? Laughing That was a shoving match. And as Mike Tirico says in the vid "it all really started with the Garnett elbow". If Q-Rich doesn't walk over to the Celtics players, nothing happens.

Artests elbow was malicious, that wasn't. That's why Garnett only got 1 game, he coulda got a couple more but Artest's is wayyy worse.
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Post by Le Samourai on Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:03 pm

East.

Chicago-Philadelphia
Miami- New York
Indiana - Orlando
Boston- Atlanta.

West.

San Antonio- Utah
OKC- Dallas
Lakers-Denver
Memphis- Clipperss.

That looks like what it will end up being.

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Post by The Franchise on Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:45 pm

Comparing KG elbow to Artest...just no.

Anyway, if it ends how Josh has it, then Memphis- Clippers will be a great series and I think OKC has done themselves no favours having to face Dallas in the first round.

San Antonio- Utah will be intresting...can see what Spurs are made of really.

Miami and Ney York I think should make for a fun series, however long it lasts.

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Post by Le Samourai on Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:56 pm

I might have Utah winning the series.

If Devin Harris is the defender he used to be that is.He would need to play a great series.

But Utah's Bigs are scary for a old team Like San Antonio

Also Alec Burks is one of the most intriguing players in the league for me.

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Post by The Franchise on Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:03 pm

Spurs aint old, thats a common misconception.

Ginobli is 32, but still probably the 3rd best shooting guard in the league. Duncan is the only old guy they have.

Anyway, I think Spurs only flamed out last year because Randolf had a playoffs of Moses Malone type play and Ginobli got injured.

I think the Spurs will do away with the Jazz aslong as a freak injury doesnt happen. Parker is lighting people up for fun.
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Post by Le Samourai on Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:44 pm

The 4 bigs will give them trouble.

Millsap always plays hard and Jefferson might just be the most inspired player out there. Favors and Kanter are two pretty amazing talents.

I just hope Harris can defend like it's a couple years ago lol.He would need to have a great series to take them to a close series.

Burks just has something about him too his game is unbelievably smooth.

I don't think they'll eat them, but they'll compete , don't write them off.

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