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Post by Jay29 on Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:14 pm

It's possible that Coquelin just hasn't developed enough in certain areas to warrant Wenger giving him more first team opportunities. He's 22 now yet no closer to breaking into the first team than he was this time last season, and when you consider the current form of our midfielders it's difficult to see that changing.

Unfortunately, Coquelin may well be one those talents we'll have to wave goodbye to. He's got obvious potential, but Arsenal don't really play with a ball winner in their midfield; they use a passer who has developed defensive skills like Arteta and Ramsey. Though we feel Coquelin can add some much needed aggression to the midfield, I think most would agree that a stronger player would be better.

It's difficult for Wenger because he's got Wilshere, who needs games to continue developing but is already an important player for us, and Ramsey, who needs game to find his form and role in the team and is currently doing so, as well as Coquelin, who needs games to develop as a player. Yet he can't exactly compromise the likes of Arteta, Rosicky and Cazorla in doing so.

In the end, somebody has to suffer, and that unfortunately turned out to be Coquelin.

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Post by Sri on Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:18 pm

To add to that, we need some players with more immediate impact. Developing youth and all is ok, but its also high time we focus on some on-field success. We can't hide behind the debts and finances anymore.
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Re: Soon to be world class: Coquelin Thread

Post by Raptorgunner on Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:18 pm

I agree Jay, but in the small cup games we should have played him at least.

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Re: Soon to be world class: Coquelin Thread

Post by Raptorgunner on Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:20 pm

srigooner wrote:To add to that, we need some players with more immediate impact. Developing youth and all is ok, but its also high time we focus on some on-field success. We can't hide behind the debts and finances anymore.

Agree, tts time to become champions again.

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Re: Soon to be world class: Coquelin Thread

Post by Chumlum on Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:24 pm

GoonerJay29 wrote:It's possible that Coquelin just hasn't developed enough in certain areas to warrant Wenger giving him more first team opportunities. He's 22 now yet no closer to breaking into the first team than he was this time last season, and when you consider the current form of our midfielders it's difficult to see that changing.

Unfortunately, Coquelin may well be one those talents we'll have to wave goodbye to. He's got obvious potential, but Arsenal don't really play with a ball winner in their midfield; they use a passer who has developed defensive skills like Arteta and Ramsey. Though we feel Coquelin can add some much needed aggression to the midfield, I think most would agree that a stronger player would be better.

You've hit the nail on the head I think. (Although maybe sold short Coquelin's roundedness - he's a pretty decent all-rounder I think, not just a ball-winner.) But this is the dilemma. He's a promising player, can play in a few positions, technically homegrown, been at the club for years,. All positives. He might turn out really, really well. But in order to do that, he needs more match time, and that's the problem - he's not good enough yet to force his way into the squad beyond 10-15 appearances a season.

I think of a player like Nordtveit, who's done well Gladbach. (By reports; I haven't followed him closely.) If Coquelin is "only" that good, he's maybe not good enough to cut it in an Arsenal squad with trophy ambitions. But he's possibly going to turn out better, and you don't want to miss out on that opportunity, either.

I almost wonder if a year-long loan to a PL team next season would be the best solution, and if he's deemed good enough after that he can come back in 2014-2015 and essentially take over Arteta's spot. (Or Diaby's, or whoever - I'm referring to space in the squad more than tactical role.) But I don't really see this happening, which is why I'm beginning to suspect he'll be sold this summer ...
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Post by 6unner on Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:51 pm

@Raptorgunner wrote:I agree Jay, but in the small cup games we should have played him at least.

When you cannot challenge for any of the big silverware. Your best team needs to play in the small cups

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Post by RealGunner on Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:05 pm

Not sure if he has a future with us.

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Post by Eman on Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:24 pm

@RealGunner wrote:Not sure if he has a future with us.
Same. If we buy a DM in the summer like I think most of us want, at least one of him and Frimpong will surely be on their way out.

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Re: Soon to be world class: Coquelin Thread

Post by lenear1030 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:27 am

srigooner wrote:
@Raptorgunner wrote: How bad could he play? not worse than Ramsey was or Theo now? I thought Coq played well for the little amount of minutes he got.




Are you serious mate?!?! Have you been watching Ramsey in the last one month? Suspect


thats because he's not on the wing lol. he just doesnt belong in an advanced position. he's been pretty good this last month but still sits on the ball a bit too long some times

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Post by beatrixasdfghjk. on Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:29 am

@6unner wrote:
@Raptorgunner wrote:I agree Jay, but in the small cup games we should have played him at least.

When you cannot challenge for any of the big silverware. Your best team needs to play in the small cups
We still lose Sad.

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Re: Soon to be world class: Coquelin Thread

Post by 6unner on Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:45 am

@beatrixasdfghjk. wrote:
@6unner wrote:
@Raptorgunner wrote:I agree Jay, but in the small cup games we should have played him at least.

When you cannot challenge for any of the big silverware. Your best team needs to play in the small cups
We still lose Sad.

Yep no matter what team we put out we still can not compete with the big teams.

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Post by beatrixasdfghjk. on Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:34 am

Oh, I was referencing our recent abysmal performances against lower division teams.

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Re: Soon to be world class: Coquelin Thread

Post by sportsczy on Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:16 am

Coquelin hasn't been developed at Arsenal. He was actually a better player in Ligue 1. You can't judge a player who either a) plays out of position and/or b) plays once a month.

He's getting wasted at Arsenal. Needs to leave.

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Re: Soon to be world class: Coquelin Thread

Post by Kwame2u on Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:27 am

Sell him and include a buy back clause. Problem solved
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Post by Twoism on Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:31 am

He's just one of those cases where the talents are there, just wrong time. Should he be there when Flamini left, would have a lots more chances with 1st team. I think it's better if he leaves and shines somewhere else like Vela or Bendtner Laughing
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Re: Soon to be world class: Coquelin Thread

Post by RealGunner on Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:08 am

Yea he definitely has it in him to play regularly for a different team and succeed
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Re: Soon to be world class: Coquelin Thread

Post by urbaNRoots on Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:15 am

@Kwame2u wrote:Sell him and include a buy back clause. Problem solved

This!

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Re: Soon to be world class: Coquelin Thread

Post by King Meyy on Wed May 08, 2013 8:56 pm

Nope give him his chances and get rid of Diaby after all our fans and team are crying out for a player like him.

Cazorla(Rosicky)Wilshere(Ramsey) while Coqueling and Arteta can share starts like 60% to 40% in Arteta's favour.Players in brackets are like for like replacements.

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Post by RealGunner on Wed May 08, 2013 8:59 pm

Welcome to the forum Meyy
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Post by King Meyy on Wed May 08, 2013 9:45 pm

Thanks,man.

Was looking for a forum that is really active with lots of passionate or at least interested people found the perfect ting here and it has been only hours far better than pes gaming which is like a closed village with culture while this like one of the capital cities of the world like Paris.

Enjoying myself here,got really high when i learned Fergie is going

Viva Arsene and Long live The Arsenal.

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Post by Wilson37 on Thu May 09, 2013 5:28 pm

@King Meyy wrote:Thanks,man.

Was looking for a forum that is really active with lots of passionate or at least interested people found the perfect ting here and it has been only hours far better than pes gaming which is like a closed village with culture while this like one of the capital cities of the world like Paris.

Enjoying myself here,got really high when i learned Fergie is going

Viva Arsene and Long live The Arsenal.
Welcome King.. cheers

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Re: Soon to be world class: Coquelin Thread

Post by REWB on Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:41 pm

waited a while to bump this thread :coffee:

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Re: Soon to be world class: Coquelin Thread

Post by RealGunner on Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:45 pm

Alex Song-esuq rise to fame.

But better since he is actually useful Laughing


More n more it looks like we need someone to cover for him rather than start instead of him. Obviously it's better to judge after season defining matches.
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Re: Soon to be world class: Coquelin Thread

Post by EL Patron on Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:04 pm

Arsenal should finance a scientific experiment to clone him, midfield doesn't function properly without this guy

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Post by urbaNRoots on Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:05 pm

@EL Patron wrote:Arsenal should finance a scientific experiment to clone him, midfield doesn't function properly without this guy


We could sign Krychowiak who is a taller version of him.

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Post by EL Patron on Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:07 pm

@urbaNRoots wrote:
@EL Patron wrote:Arsenal should finance a scientific experiment to clone him, midfield doesn't function properly without this guy


We could sign Krychowiak who is a taller version of him.


but the transfer market is shut so he is all we got, i can't believe it got to the point where we are hoping for Coquelin to be fit every week ffs Laughing

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