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Post by Eman on Sun May 27, 2012 8:42 am

Mertesacker doesn't deserve so much hate. It's quite clear he's not the best athlete in the world, and he has screwed up both for Arsenal and Germany in recent times, but he just came back from injury for Germany and for Arsenal it was his first season. IMO, when he played, his first Arsenal season was more impressive than Koscielny's, so give him time. He is still better than Djourou or Squillaci...

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Re: Goals galore in Germany-Switzerland friendly

Post by Lord Hades on Sun May 27, 2012 9:05 am

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Re: Goals galore in Germany-Switzerland friendly

Post by SchinnerC on Sun May 27, 2012 9:19 am

The defense was horrible, so was the midfield. Can't believe Lowe fielded Khedira, Ozil and Gotze and then subbed Khedira for Gündoğan as if the midfield isn't already disjointed enough. Inler controlled the midfield and absolutely owned Germany along with Xhaka.

That pass to Litchsteiner!! :bow:

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Post by urbaNRoots on Sun May 27, 2012 9:32 am

@Eman wrote:Mertesacker doesn't deserve so much hate. It's quite clear he's not the best athlete in the world, and he has screwed up both for Arsenal and Germany in recent times, but he just came back from injury for Germany and for Arsenal it was his first season. IMO, when he played, his first Arsenal season was more impressive than Koscielny's, so give him time. He is still better than Djourou or Squillaci...

Thing is Mertesacker had a better season "as a defender" than Vermaelen, but everyone forgets that because Vermaelen is a "ball playing CB" and scores a lot of goals, while Mertesacker only does his work Rolling Eyes
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Post by sportsczy on Sun May 27, 2012 9:58 am

Per did not have a better season than Vermaelen. Koscielny was the best CB for Arsneal, followed by Vermaelen and then Per. Per is just slow and a wimp. When all 3 were healthy, Vermaelen was played wide because he's fast enough.

Per is a good depth player imo. Nothing more.

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Re: Goals galore in Germany-Switzerland friendly

Post by urbaNRoots on Sun May 27, 2012 10:05 am

I agree that he's a depth player and good enough as a 3rd choice. But he's not horrible like rewb is saying. Just stating that Vermaelen had a bad season but some Arsenal forget it because he scored some goals. Same for Hummels and all other CB's that score goals and get love for that.

And when Mertesacker was fit we barely even conceded goals. Just look at the Milan away match we were horrible without him.
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Re: Goals galore in Germany-Switzerland friendly

Post by rwo power on Sun May 27, 2012 11:47 am

On a side note, I'm still annoyed that Hitzfeld didn't let Yann Sommer play instead of Diego Benaglio. After all, it was a friendly and it was played at Basel's home stadium - why not give the boy his debut in such a match? *sulk*

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Re: Goals galore in Germany-Switzerland friendly

Post by la bestia negra on Sun May 27, 2012 1:00 pm

@rwo power wrote:On a side note, I'm still annoyed that Hitzfeld didn't let Yann Sommer play instead of Diego Benaglio. After all, it was a friendly and it was played at Basel's home stadium - why not give the boy his debut in such a match? *sulk*

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Re: Goals galore in Germany-Switzerland friendly

Post by rwo power on Sun May 27, 2012 1:44 pm

Not butthurt. I just don't understand it. And btw, in the Basel forum, most people are convinced, too, that Switzerland would have won 5:1 with Yann Sommer in goal. :coffee:

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Re: Goals galore in Germany-Switzerland friendly

Post by Albiceleste on Sun May 27, 2012 3:01 pm

ter Stegen deceived me :vagi:

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Re: Goals galore in Germany-Switzerland friendly

Post by Kingofeverythingclassy on Sun May 27, 2012 3:04 pm

Now I wonder what will be RWO's reaction is this sommer guy is benched by Basel for a new Gk Very Happy

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Re: Goals galore in Germany-Switzerland friendly

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sun May 27, 2012 3:14 pm

No talk of Barnetta's performance? scratch

Created all of Derdiyok's goals and was MOTM imo..... someone is going to get a bargain this summer as he's available on a free...

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Re: Goals galore in Germany-Switzerland friendly

Post by Dr. Percival Faust on Sun May 27, 2012 3:16 pm

In the first half, Germany used a 4-1-4-1, with Khedira covering the highly crucial DM/CM spot. At first, Germany were looking decent and were ripping the Swiss apart. Unfortunately though, after around 15 minutes Khedira apparently lost interest in the game...

After the break, Khedira was taken off and Germany played with an AM-turned-CM (Gündogan) and an AM-filling-in-as-a-CM (Götze).

It's no surprise the defense looked bad, as they were exposed badly over and over. It was one of Jogi's experiments, zero of which have worked so far over the course of the last few years. Regardless of the opposition.

If you also consider that Schmelzer is only solid when he has an absolute workhorse like Großkreutz in front of him (who is as much a defender as he is an attacker) and that Schmelzer's partner in this formation is Podolski of all people, it's easy to understand why the team conceded 5 goals.

Essentially, they were playing a 4-0-5-1 over long stretches of the game. (or, rather, a 3-0-5-1, since we can pretty much just forget about Schmelzer even being on the pitch).

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Post by la bestia negra on Sun May 27, 2012 3:26 pm

@Albiceleste wrote:ter Stegen deceived me :vagi:
with all honesty it was his defense that let him down
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Re: Goals galore in Germany-Switzerland friendly

Post by rwo power on Sun May 27, 2012 3:56 pm

@Kingofeverythingclassy wrote:Now I wonder what will be RWO's reaction is this sommer guy is benched by Basel for a new Gk Very Happy
Actually, Yann Sommer (then just aged 22) replaced fan favourite and long time Basel Nr.1 Franco Costanzo exactly one year ago. Many Basel fans that time were totally not convinced of Sommer and would have preferred to keep Costanzo instead. Obviously the opinions changed after Sommer's top-class performances this season (okay, I'll spread a merciful mantle of silence over the 2nd CL leg against Bayern, but that was more the problem of a collective failure of the Basel defense and not the sole fault of the GK), and as things stand, he will not be kicked out any time soon. ^^

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Re: Goals galore in Germany-Switzerland friendly

Post by Lord Awesome on Sun May 27, 2012 4:00 pm

Sommer will defo get into Bundesliga or EPL methinks. He's already good enough.

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Re: Goals galore in Germany-Switzerland friendly

Post by VivaStPauli on Sun May 27, 2012 4:29 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:No talk of Barnetta's performance? scratch

Created all of Derdiyok's goals and was MOTM imo..... someone is going to get a bargain this summer as he's available on a free...

I hope its us as we want him Very Happy

And he refuses to sign an extension with Leverkusen. How that poor club keeps being screwed by all factors involved is dazzling.

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Re: Goals galore in Germany-Switzerland friendly

Post by Lex on Sun May 27, 2012 5:08 pm

What's with all this Mertesacker hate, especially from Arsenal fans? Did you catch him in bed with your girlfriends or something? scratch

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Re: Goals galore in Germany-Switzerland friendly

Post by Kingofeverythingclassy on Sun May 27, 2012 6:00 pm

@rwo power wrote:
@Kingofeverythingclassy wrote:Now I wonder what will be RWO's reaction is this sommer guy is benched by Basel for a new Gk Very Happy
Actually, Yann Sommer (then just aged 22) replaced fan favourite and long time Basel Nr.1 Franco Costanzo exactly one year ago. Many Basel fans that time were totally not convinced of Sommer and would have preferred to keep Costanzo instead. Obviously the opinions changed after Sommer's top-class performances this season (okay, I'll spread a merciful mantle of silence over the 2nd CL leg against Bayern, but that was more the problem of a collective failure of the Basel defense and not the sole fault of the GK), and as things stand, he will not be kicked out any time soon. ^^

I am pretty sure you knew very little about Basel prior to this season.

So you do all this research because a goalie looks cute :facepalm:

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Re: Goals galore in Germany-Switzerland friendly

Post by rwo power on Sun May 27, 2012 7:11 pm

@Kingofeverythingclassy wrote:I am pretty sure you knew very little about Basel prior to this season.

So you do all this research because a goalie looks cute :facepalm:
Well, I love to do research in general. That's why I do not only know a lot about my favourite club, but about a lot of others, too. Razz (I bet I actually know a lot more about Bayern than most Bayern fans here, too Very Happy)

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Re: Goals galore in Germany-Switzerland friendly

Post by VivaStPauli on Sun May 27, 2012 7:34 pm

Well replaced, or not replaced, you can still do nothing for match after match and still start.

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Post by Babun on Mon May 28, 2012 4:47 pm

Ter Stegen, Cacau, Draxler and Sven Bender are omitted from the squad.

The only one worth a shot was Draxler. The other ones disappointed. Reus at CF is possible. I hope Löw will make it happen, he looked awesome eco smile

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon May 28, 2012 5:06 pm

wow, Sven upstaged by his bro

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Re: Goals galore in Germany-Switzerland friendly

Post by VivaStPauli on Mon May 28, 2012 5:15 pm

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO how could Löw pass up the chance of playing the double-Bender?

Seriously though I get it, he doesn't need more defensive mids, Sven has been injured a lot this season, and Lars offers more going forward.

Sven Bender would've been the best tackler we have, though, and I would've given him a shot at FB, personally. But I guess Löw wants Gündogan as a backup if both Schweini and Kroos are out, I guess that makes sense. I'm also glad he cut Cacau. I actually like the lad, he rather fits our system, but Reus and Schürrle are just so much better than him.

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Post by Bellabong on Tue May 29, 2012 10:06 am

Don't worry Viva, when Ismaik gets a taste of the new Buli TV deal after 60 are promoted he'll bring them both home cheers











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