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Breaking: Liverpool sack Brendan Rodgers

Post by BeautifulGame on Wed May 30, 2012 3:50 pm

Brendan Rodgers set to take charge at Liverpool

By Pat Murphy BBC Radio 5 live

Swansea manager Brendan Rodgers is expected to be confirmed as the new Liverpool boss in the next 48 hours.

The clubs are understood to be discussing compensation for the 39-year-old, with Swansea likely to receive a compensation payment of between £4m and £5m.

Wigan manager Roberto Martinez had been in contention, but attention has since switched back to Rodgers.

The Reds had finished eighth in the Premier League and were 17 points from a Champions League qualification spot, despite the Reds winning the League Cup and reaching the final of the FA Cup.

In contrast, Rodgers guided his Swansea side to an impressive first season in the top flight, including a 1-0 win over Liverpool on the final day of the season.

After parting ways with Dalglish, Liverpool embarked on an extensive search for a new manager.

The Reds have been linked not only with Rodgers and Martinez but also former Chelsea boss Andre Villas-Boas,  ex-England coach Fabio Capello,  and Ajax manager Frank de Boer,  among others.

The Northern Irishman declined the opportunity to speak to Liverpool about the vacancy 12 days ago, and instead the club's hierarchy sought a meeting with Wigan's Martinez.
Jose Mourinho on Rodgers

"I like everything in him. He is ambitious and does not see football very differently from myself. He is open, likes to learn and likes to communicate"

But it appears Rodgers was always the preferred candidate, despite Wigan chairman Dave Whelan at one point suggesting his manager had been offered the job at Anfield.

Rodgers's managerial career began at Watford in 2008 after coaching spells at Reading and Chelsea.

There followed an unhappy period in charge of Reading but, after his appointment as Swansea boss in July 2010, Rodgers guided his Welsh side to promotion to the top flight in May 2011, making Swansea the first Welsh team to reach the Premier League.

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Re: Breaking: Liverpool sack Brendan Rodgers

Post by Art Morte on Wed May 30, 2012 4:11 pm

So it's likely to be one-season-wonder Brendan Rodgers over Kenny Dalglish... :facepalm:

Poor job, Henry & co.

But obviously I'll give the guy a chance, hopefully he shall surprise me positively.

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Re: Breaking: Liverpool sack Brendan Rodgers

Post by BeautifulGame on Wed May 30, 2012 4:30 pm

I am more relieved than excited tbh.I was dreading Martinez so happpy to welcome Rodgers.

As for sacking Kenny the results in the league made that decision easy and logical even if most of us dont agree because of sentimental reasons (including me).

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Re: Breaking: Liverpool sack Brendan Rodgers

Post by BeautifulGame on Wed May 30, 2012 4:31 pm

James Pearce ‏@Pearcesport
BBC's @BenSmithBBC now confirming that Brendan Rodgers is new Liverpool manager. He's signed three year contract

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Re: Breaking: Liverpool sack Brendan Rodgers

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Wed May 30, 2012 5:56 pm

@BeautifulGame wrote:I am more relieved than excited tbh.I was dreading Martinez so happpy to welcome Rodgers.

Can you explain this to me please as i dont quite understand it.....

Martinez has got a very poor side to survive relegation 3 seasons on the trot ( maybe not a reason to be good enough to manage Liverpool but still) and play some good football in the process.

While he was also the one who laid the groundwork down for Swansea which Rodgers used to take them on i honestly believe that without Martinez Swansea wouldn't even be in the championship today.

While Rodgers has done well this season yes but he's still a very unproven commodity ( more so than Martinez IMO)

I personally don't understand why Rodgers would be a good choice yet Martinez would be an awful choice....

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Re: Breaking: Liverpool sack Brendan Rodgers

Post by mr-r34 on Wed May 30, 2012 6:33 pm

So FSG thing this guy can make us top 4, bahahaha, we wont be making the 4 with this squad, not with other top 4 hopefulls signing stars while we sign the adams of england

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Re: Breaking: Liverpool sack Brendan Rodgers

Post by BeautifulGame on Wed May 30, 2012 6:37 pm

^ I don't think there's any pragmatism to Martinez at all. He gets praised for "sticking to his principles", but the reverse side of that is repeating the same mistakes over and over and expecting a different result.

Which compared with Swansea who have a proper structure about the way they played even if its just one season IMO and Rodgers achieved much better results on a similar budget compared to Martinez who just struggles even after 3 years.

Even Bruce signed much better players and achieved much better results with Wigan than Martinez.That has to count for something.

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Re: Breaking: Liverpool sack Brendan Rodgers

Post by Don't call me James on Wed May 30, 2012 9:09 pm

Well I can't say I'm not surprised by the appointment of Rodgers. But once it's actually official, he'll have my full support throughout the next couple of seasons (after that it'll depend on the results and the state of the club Very Happy ). Hopefully he can improve our team and locks down the managerial position for good.

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Re: Breaking: Liverpool sack Brendan Rodgers

Post by RedOranje on Wed May 30, 2012 9:29 pm

A good read on Rodgers if you're not looking for words to reinforce the pessimism.

http://www.theliverpoolword.com/2012/05/brendan-rodgers-why-he-makes-sense-as-the-next-liverpool-manager/

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Re: Breaking: Liverpool sack Brendan Rodgers

Post by Le Samourai on Wed May 30, 2012 9:31 pm

@RedOranje wrote:A good read on Rodgers if you're not looking for words to reinforce the pessimism.

http://www.theliverpoolword.com/2012/05/brendan-rodgers-why-he-makes-sense-as-the-next-liverpool-manager/

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Re: Breaking: Liverpool sack Brendan Rodgers

Post by RedOranje on Wed May 30, 2012 11:00 pm


Brendan Rodgers, Why He Makes Sense as The Next Liverpool Manager


If reports are to be believed Liverpool’s search for a new manager has been narrowed down to two likely candidates, Roberto Martinez of Wigan and Brendan Rodgers of Swansea. Karl Matchett had a look at how Martinez and his lauded 3-4-3 formation might fit at Liverpool the other day. While the support for the Martinez appointment has grown over the last week or so, my belief is that Rodgers is the better fit for Liverpool.

The key to my belief is the structure that FSG appear to be putting in place with a Sporting Director and a Technical Director to be appointed along with Manager who’s more likely to be a Head Coach than the traditional English style Manager. Martinez is believed to be demanding control over the footballing side of the club, which is something that in my opinion he’s not ready for. Not at a club like Liverpool. I don’t believe Rodgers is ready to have full control over the footballing side of the club either, but my thinking is that he may be ready to have control of the team and I don’t think he would be as demanding as Martinez because I think he’d be far more comfortable in a coaching role than the Spaniard who has no real coaching experience and has always been given free reign at the clubs he’s managed. Rodgers as worked in a variety of positions at the clubs he’s been at, so a Head Coach position, where he handles mainly the training, tactics and team selection, while be just part of the decision making process on things like transfers, might be more to his liking than Martinez’.

It has been said that the method and structure Liverpool are planning to adopt is that which clubs like Lyon, Bayern Munich, Ajax, Juventus and others have been using for years. It’s a set-up where the traditional manager’s role is split up among three or four people with the premise being that many great minds working together can make for great ideas and great decisions. With the Sporting Director and the Technical Director being in place to not only share the workload but also to act as sounding boards for the Head Coach and support him in whatever ways he requires.

I thought I’d take a look at the different factors which have led me to believe that Rodgers is the better fit for the Liverpool job from the apparent two remaining candidates.

Coaching Background

With the role being largely centred around the coaching aspect, Rodgers truly stands out from the crowd. Having retired from football at the age of 20 due to a combination of injury and not believing he was ever going to be good enough to play at the highest level, Rodgers began coaching at Reading. He began by coaching at the youth level and worked his way into the job as youth team manager. He served the club in this role for almost nine years whilst also being involved in the coaching of the first team, and the reserve team as he continued his coaching education. During his time at Reading he also spent significant time travelling around Spain picking up ideas and philosophies which would help shape the type of manager he became. He spent quite a bit of time at Barcelona, where he took note of the clubs philosophy of football. He also traveled to Holland and spent time at Ajax which gives you an indication of the type of football he wants his teams to play.

He was plucked from Reading and brought to Chelsea by Jose Mourinho who was clearly impressed with Rodgers and his work at Reading as he made him his first external appointment after taking over at Chelsea. Rodgers has said the following about making the move to Chelsea,

“Jose played 4-3-3, or a 4-4-2 diamond, and he wanted a coach to implement his methodology. As you can imagine I was nervous meeting him, a guy I’d read a book about. But he was brilliant, and made me his first external appointment. He took me under his wing a wee bit, maybe because he saw something different in me, or maybe there was a bit of empathy because, like him, I hadn’t had the big playing career. Anyway, that started one of the best times of my life. Jose had learnt from his mentor, Louis van Gaal, and I learnt from him, that there must never be a lazy day in training, and that preparation is vital.”

Mourinho’s influence on Rodgers is a huge factor in my thinking, Mourinho methods on the training ground are widely praised and Rodgers is believed to have gleaned quite a lot from them and implemented them in his own regimes.

When Rodgers moved into management at Watford in 2008, he had fifteen years as a coach, youth team manager and reserve team manager under his belt. That’s a rarity in football, even moreso in someone who was only 35 years old at the time.

Man-Management


Another aspect of Rodgers make-up for which he has received significant grounding from Jose Mourinho is the man-management side of things. Mourinho is widely regarded as one of the best man-managers in world football. He makes a connection with his players that few others can even dream of. Rodgers has made a similar connection with his players at Swansea who are all fiercely loyal to him. An example of that is the young Icelandic midfielder Gylfi Sigurdsson who seems set to turn his back on moves to bigger clubs to make the permanent move to Swansea, as long as Rodgers is still at the club. Rodgers strikes the right balance between being the players friend, and being their boss. It’s a difficult balance to get right but Rodgers seems to have managed it at Swansea.

A key aspect in man-management is getting the players to buy into a philosophy and at Swansea the players have done just that with Rodgers. Swansea’s players have embraced his ideas and teachings, and the results speak for themselves. Players who, before being managed by Rodgers, had often been seen as being slightly lazy – Scott Sinclair to name one, Danny Graham to name another, are now totally committed to working hard for the good of the team every time they set foot on the pitch. The work rate of Swansea’s midfield and attack is truly exceptional and is often overlooked due to their attractive style of play.

Philosophy

When Kenny Dalglish returned to Liverpool as manager one of the things that fans were most excited about was the idea that the pass and move style of football that was such a big part of the success in the past would return to the club. Rodgers is the sort of manager who plays the type of football that Liverpool fans love to watch. His team play a fantastic style of football based on making the ball do the work when you have it which allows you to have more energy to get it back when you don’t have it.

Rodgers is on a crusade to rid the world of long ball football. He believes that if you keep the ball, and pass it well, you win football matches. Here’s an excerpt from an article in the Guardian earlier this month which is well worth reading.

”I like teams to control and dominate the ball, so the players are hungry for the ball,” Rodgers says. “You’ll see in some of our exercises this morning, a lot of our work is around the transition and getting the ball back very quickly. Because I believe if you give a bad player time, he can play. If you give a good player time, he can kill you. So our emphasis is based around our positioning both with and without the ball. And for us, when we press well, we pass well.”

Winning the ball back quickly and high up the pitch was a key feature of Barcelona’s approach under Pep Guardiola and, as Rodgers explains, is much more sophisticated than it may appear. “You cannot go on your own,” he says. “You work on zonal pressure, so that when it is in your zone, you have the capacity to press. That ability to press immediately, within five or six seconds to get the ball, is important. But you also have to understand when you can’t and what the triggers are then to go for it again because you can’t run about like a madman.

“It’s decision-making and intelligence. And this was always the thing with the British player, they were always deemed never to be intelligent, not to have good decision-making skills but could fight like hell for the ball. I believe they have all of the [attributes] and, if you can structure that, then you can have real, effective results.”

That’s very much the same idea that the Liverpool teams which dominated played under. It’s something that Liverpool fans can relate to.

Rodgers team sets up as a 4-2-3-1 when they don’t have the ball, but when they are in possession they take more of 3-4-3 formation with the fullbacks pushing forward, the central defenders moving ten yards in either direction, Leon Britton dropping back between them, Joe Allen and Sigurdsson as dual attacking midfielders, and Nathan Dyer and Scott Sinclair pushing forward either side of Danny Graham. That 3-4-3 variation is something that Rodgers has been doing at Swansea for two years without people falling over themselves to credit him, instead preferring to credit Roberto Martinez for apparently re-inventing the wheel by taking on a 3-4-3 in desperate times at Wigan.

Rodgers style of football is one that works very well and translates well to all levels. While Arsene Wenger amongst others have made note of Swansea “not being brave” and often “not doing much with the ball”. that’s quite short-sighted and ignores the fact that for the most part, that Swansea team was made up of players who had never played in the Premier League before, yet managed to outplay many of the best teams in the country, and finish comfortably in mid-table without ever looking likely to become entrenched in a relation battle. With a higher calibre of players, Rodgers style of play would be more effective and more difficult to contain.

Against teams that “park the bus”, rather than try to bludgeon them into submission as Liverpool attempted to do last season and in previous seasons, it’s a more measured approach aimed at creating chances rather than forcing chances. One of Liverpool’s big problems last season was that while they had huge amounts of shots on goal, a lot of them were not clear chances. Luis Suarez, for example, was often guilty of trying to do too much because his team-mates weren’t able to create clear chances for him. With Rodgers more patient style of build up, and his creative style of passing football, that should not be an issue.

Against the higher calibre of teams, Rodgers’ style of play is suffocating. He likes to starve the opposition of the ball, and then force them into mistakes when they do have the ball. That high pressing style is something Rafa Benitez was noted for during his time at Valencia and Liverpool but his sides were never as good at keeping possession as Swansea are. Rodgers believes in tactical discipline, mixed with creative attacking play. It’s the perfect blend when correctly put into practice.

Preparation

In my opinion, one of the reasons Liverpool struggled last season was a lack of preparation for matches against teams outside the top four. Far too often it just seemed that Liverpool went into matches with the mindset that they should just be walking through their opponents because “We are Liverpool, and they’re not”. In the matches against United, City and Chelsea, Liverpool came out with clever tactics and a set gameplan. In matches against the likes of Swansea, Sunderland and others, they did not. And it cost them.

Rodgers is noted for his meticulous preparation for both training and each individual matches. This again is something he learned working under Mourinho, but a lot of what he learned came from a certain Andre Villas-Boas who, depending on who you believe, is either in the running for the job or has been ruled out/ruled himself out. Rodgers helped Villas-Boas in the scouting of future Chelsea opponents and preparing reports for Mourinho who would then adjust his tactics accordingly. Rodgers operates in a similar way, having his assistants prepare reports as per his instructions and then tailoring tactics and training accordingly.

He also puts a large amount of time and effort into preparing his training program in order to make sure players don’t go stale by doing the same things day after day. His players look forward to going to training because he puts in that time and effort and makes sure they while they work hard and are constantly learning and improving, they’re also having fun.

Existing Relationship With Van Gaal

Rodgers learned his craft as a manager under Jose Mourinho after getting a solid basis through his experience as a coach. But Mourinho alone is not the only man who’s shaped the mind and helped him develop. When Rodgers was beginning his career as a coach he spent a lot of time at Barcelona studying how they did things. The Barca manager at the time was one Louis Van Gaal who is widely regarded as one of the best teachers of potential managers in the world. His star pupil is Jose Mourinho, to whom he served as a mentor for many years but Frank DeBoer, Frank Rijkaard and a number of others have also turned to Van Gaal for advice.

With Van Gaal looking likely to arrive as Sporting Director, having that existing relationship in place could be of huge benefit. Van Gaal would not be the only person at the club that Rodgers already has an existing relationship with. He worked very closely with Steve Clarke during their time together at Chelsea and that could be highly beneficial if Clarke is retained as assistant manager. Clarke is someone Rodgers knows and trusts and having Clarke at the club might help put his mind at ease if he does have any doubts about not bringing his entire backroom team with him from Swansea.

Ambition, Dedication, Determination

These are three things you want to see in any up and coming you manager and Rodgers displays them all. His ambition is to manage at the highest level of the game, he’s stated that openly in the past. This is generally the aim of every manager but Rodgers has gone about it the right way. He got his experience as a coach at a good club in Reading, travelled and learned the methods of others managers and coaches in other countries, spent his time learning Spanish, and now Italian in order to not only be able to go and manage in Spain or Italy at some point, but also to be able to speak with Italian or Spanish-speaking players at any club he went to. He went and worked under one of the best managers in the world and used the opportunity to learn as much as possible. All of this shows the type of dedication he has towards achieving his ambition. As does his hard work throughout his coaching and managerial career. Rodgers has his footballing principles and won’t change them. It would have been easy for Swansea to come into the Premier League and play an ugly brand of football and fight their way through a relegation dogfight, Rodgers never even entertained the idea. That, to me, shows a man determined to do things his way, using his philosophies and his tactics. That’s admirable.

A Risk That Others Have Taken

Jurgen Klopp at Borussia Dortmund in 2008, Rafa Benitez at Valencia in 2001. Two managers who had not had what you might call “stand out” careers prior to getting those jobs. Two men who before they got those jobs were never mentioned in discussions about being among the best managers in world football. Klopp is many people’s favourite choice to be the next Liverpool manager, but that looks highly unlikely. Benitez, of course, would leave Valencia in 2004 to join Liverpool and write himself into Anfield lore by winning the Champions League in his first season. There are many people who want Benitez back at the club but he’s not in FSG’s thinking for one reason or another.

The point about the two managers I’ve just mentioned was made to me on Twitter during the last week or so and initially my thinking was that Liverpool are a bigger club than both Dortmund or Valencia and therefore it was less of a risk those clubs to appoint Klopp and Benitez than it would be for us to appoint someone like Rodgers. As I’ve already said, I don’t believe Rodgers is ready to manage a club like Liverpool, but having given it a lot of though I’ve realized that we’re not looking for someone to manage the club, we’re looking for someone to manage the team. That’s what this structure gives us. It separates the team from the overall club and the man who takes over as Manager/Head Coach is being asked to take care of the team.

Van Gaal, one of the most respected and successful managers in the world, is likely going to be the man who takes over the running of the club. He will likely be aided by Pep Segura and Rodolfo Borrell. Having those three men in place would allow the Head Coach to focus solely on the team. I believe Rodgers is ready to manage Liverpool as a team. Whilst, as a club, Liverpool remain amongst the worlds biggest, as a team they are currently nothing more than a mid table team fighting to get back amongst those challenging for the title. While you can excuses for why Liverpool finished 8th last season, the fact remains that in the last three seasons Liverpool have finished 7th, 6th and 8th. That’s mid-table. Rodgers is more than ready to manage a mid-table team.

Kristian Walsh made the point on the Redmen TV season review that when Liverpool are targeting players they should be looking to get them before they become stars. He used the examples of Falcao and Alexis Sanchez, rather than buying players like them from Porto or Udinese, Liverpool should be looking to buy them from River Plate or Cobreloa. Porto made a profit of about £30million on Falcao, whilst Udinese made a similar profit on Sanchez. Liverpool could therefore save themselves that sort of money by buying those players directly from South America and developing them in-house. It’s a great point and one that could also be put towards the Head Coaching role in this circumstance. Rather than getting Benitez or Klopp from Valencia or Dortmund, get them from Tenerife or Mainz. To translate, get Rodgers from Swansea before he goes elsewhere and becomes more of a known quantity. Get him now and allow him to become a great manager at Liverpool, rather than letting someone else get him and then trying to get him at a later date where bigger compensation, large wages and more competition for his signature would all be a factor.

With Van Gaal at the club to act as a guiding hand, Rodgers could thrive, learn and develop into something very special. With the structure that’s going to be in place, the internal pressure on him will be lessened and he can focus on the team and getting the best from them.

I don’t know for certain if Brendan Rodgers is one of FSG’s two or three favourites for the job, nobody knows for certain who’s on that list of what jobs people are actually being interviewed for. But if Rodgers is a candidate for the Head Coaches job, I can see why and I hope that after reading this article, you can see some logic in it as well. My own personal preference would be Villas-Boas, but I think Rodgers is the next best thing with the potential to be just as good.

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Re: Breaking: Liverpool sack Brendan Rodgers

Post by Emaharg on Wed May 30, 2012 11:28 pm

@mr-r34 wrote:So FSG thing this guy can make us top 4, bahahaha, we wont be making the 4 with this squad, not with other top 4 hopefulls signing stars while we sign the adams of england


You aren't going to make top 4 for a few seasons anyway why not sign a young manager who has clearly done well in his last job, has made some fantastic signings and plays very good football.

You can't sign top players as there is no incentive for them at Liverpool currently the best you can do is sign and develop talent and retain players the top players you have like Lucas, Reina, Suarez, Agger etc.

AVB wouldn't of worked at Liverpool in my opinion with the current defenders you would of ended up like Chelsea having slow defenders unable to play a high line and lost many games from it.

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Post by RedOranje on Wed May 30, 2012 11:36 pm

Agger, Skrtel, Johnson, Kelly, and Enrique aren't particularly slow, though.

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Post by Le Samourai on Wed May 30, 2012 11:38 pm

Defense is tailor made for a high line.

Even Coates is fast.

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Re: Breaking: Liverpool sack Brendan Rodgers

Post by BeautifulGame on Thu May 31, 2012 3:08 am

Lets be honest.We are extremely unlikely to finish in top 4 next season.So what we need is stability and clear philosophy for future.Also needs to be sensible in the transfer market.

Just hope we give enough Rodgers enough time to implement a proper structure through the club.I think FSG are prepared to give him the time as he is their man unlike Kenny.

So dont think he will be under any immediate pressure even if he didnt get immediate results.THink regarldess of results next season (unless relegation form) he will be there for atleast 2 / probably 3 seasons at the worst.

As for fans getting on his back as long as he doesnt act like an idiot off the field like hodgson then that is a remote possibility for the time being.



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Re: Breaking: Liverpool sack Brendan Rodgers

Post by donttreadonred on Thu May 31, 2012 4:18 am

I would expect Rodgers to compete for Europa league spot next season, with the main competition being Newcastle and Tottenham. I think we have the squad in place to achieve that right now. Injuries and horrible runs of form coalesced to ensure that didn't happen this season. It's unlikely that we will compete for top-four, but it was also unlikely that Newcastle would jump from slumping to 12th to challenging for top-four. It's not impossible, but it shouldn't be the expectation.

I do think Rodgers will implement a clear philosophy and style of play. It would be a severe disappointment to see him drastically alter his tactics simply because he has moved clubs. He seems to have a very defined view on what "good" football looks like, and how to set up teams to achieve it. I would be frankly shocked to seem him move away from these views.

I don't expect big names, but I do expect better value (which, admitedly, isn't too difficult). I can see us continuing to pursue Hoilett, Elm, Luuk De Jong, Gaston Ramirez,and maybe even Affelay, among others. (I can only see Rodger's style and philosophy as a positive in any pursuit of a former barcelona player.) I would not expect to see real interest in Europe's high profile transfer sagas, and that's frankly okay with me. It's also possible that some players could move on, as they wouldn't complement the system. Off the top of my head, Charlie Adam seems to be somewhat ill-suited to this style of play, but I could be wrong.

As for any Hodgson-esque upheaval... I don't see it happening. Rodgers isn't similar to Roy on or off the pitch. Given his personal approach to the game and the press, I can't see him raising the ire of supporters in the same way Hodgson did. As the disappointment in King Kenny's sacking shows, Liverpool fans are willing to accept a long-term project if there are bright signs. The media will undoubtedly make something of any run of poor form, but there's nothing you can do about that.

I think we have our manager for the next few seasons, and I'm honestly excited to see the team and the style he runs out in August. There's lots of work that needs to be done. We definitely need to make several additions, but Rodgers could be very good for the club. Yes, he is unproven. However, we were never likely to attract a manager that is currently winning silverware elsewhere, and FSG were obviously looking for someone relatively young to build a culture capable of "taking back our perch."

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Re: Breaking: Liverpool sack Brendan Rodgers

Post by RedOranje on Thu May 31, 2012 4:25 am

Afellay*

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Re: Breaking: Liverpool sack Brendan Rodgers

Post by Don't call me James on Thu May 31, 2012 5:15 am

Antoine Griezmann please!!!!!!

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Re: Breaking: Liverpool sack Brendan Rodgers

Post by Red Alert on Thu May 31, 2012 7:12 am

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Can you explain this to me please as i dont quite understand it.....

Martinez has got a very poor side to survive relegation 3 seasons on the trot ( maybe not a reason to be good enough to manage Liverpool but still) and play some good football in the process.

While he was also the one who laid the groundwork down for Swansea which Rodgers used to take them on i honestly believe that without Martinez Swansea wouldn't even be in the championship today.

While Rodgers has done well this season yes but he's still a very unproven commodity ( more so than Martinez IMO)

I personally don't understand why Rodgers would be a good choice yet Martinez would be an awful choice....

Havn't read the article Red has posted yet, but I'm with BG on this one. Unlike Martinez, Rodgers has worked at Ajax and under Mourinho so he knows the recipe for success. After all, it's best to understudy the best to become a great manager. Now, not saying he will be a success based on that but there's a better chance of him doing better than a man who has more losses than wins and no clear indication on where to go.

Martinez may have set the way Swansea play, but come on now - there is no way you can take credit away from Rodgers. Martinez simply just said pass the ball about. Rodgers has instrumented a better (imo anyway) in a more successful way (again my opinion) of playing. I mean, who takes credit for the 2005 Champions League? RB or GH? It was GH's team, but it was the different tactical approach from RB that got us the win.

There is no doubt that he is unproven. I can't stress it enough that I'm worried about this appointing. But he has a goal. A long term vision - one he backs with 100% and one I feel our players will strife under. He will be backed up fully by a DoF who will share the same vision and will be backed by Kopites around the world. (Well, most anyway. Definitely in Merseyside though.)

Martinez for me wouldn't have what it takes. He acts way too nice to the media, and he has been in the PL for 3 years now showing no signs of improvement. Wigan were 11th when he was stated as manager. 11th. He has faced relegation since he has gone there and only gets out of trouble at the end of the season switching to 3-4-3. That's what annoys me. He's known for the "3-4-3" yet only uses it to get out of trouble. He has no faith in it.

Also, majority of the teams (seniors, reserves u/18's etc) at the club use the 4-2-3-1. That's very similiar to the 4-3-3 so it will be easy to alter to it rather than switch a whole clubs philosophy to 3-4-3 (which has hardly been successful in the BPL)


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Re: Breaking: Liverpool sack Brendan Rodgers

Post by Art Morte on Thu May 31, 2012 2:55 pm

Paul Lambert has offered his resignation to Norwich, whilst he is believed to be taking over the reigns at Aston Villa. I would have much rather seen Lambert at Liverpool than Rodgers and this is feeling bitter right now...

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Post by Fahim89 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:41 am

First Interview of our new manager Brendan Rodgers

How do you feel to be the new manager of this famous football club?

As you can imagine, I am very proud and feel very blessed to be appointed today. It's obviously a club with an incredible tradition and history and I'm very, very proud and honoured to be appointed manager.

How excited are you by the owners' plans and visions for the future?

I suppose I first of all want to mention Kenny Dalglish, who is an incredible man. He's obviously the best player in the history of this football club and he's someone who adored Liverpool. He has nursed the club through some horrific times and also brought a lot of joy to the supporters here both as a player and a manager. He is someone I want to pay a great respect to because he's a wonderful ambassador for this football club. But I'm a different tactician, a different man. The owners are very excited and looking forward, and obviously they wanted to bring someone in who could keep with the traditions of Liverpool Football Club, which is to play offensive and attacking football, and also someone to represent the values of the club off the field, and that's something I will defend for my life.

How difficult was it to leave Swansea?

It was very difficult. I always said I'd leave Swansea City one day but I felt it was only going to be for a top club. I had a fantastic relationship with the chairman and the supporters and also we created history - we were the first Welsh club into the Barclays Premier League. But the attraction of coming to Liverpool is phenomenal. You only need to look at the fact they're five times European Cup winners. Some of the great players who've played for this club. I genuinely think Liverpool Football Club is the heartland of football folklore. If you look back through the years, at the players and managers. You go back to Toshack and Keegan, Rush and Dalglish, Hansen and Lawrenson, Shankly and Paisley. Then you have the modern day in terms of Gerrard and Carragher. It's a club that's so full of history and tradition and passion.

How would you describe your own football philosophy?

The philosophy is very much based on the attacking side of the game. People ask me that question and I always say it's about being offensive and creative, but also with tactical discipline. If you look at the Swansea team in the last couple of years they've been lauded for their offensive approach but defensively we've kept many clean sheets and we're up there with the top defensive records. That's the principles of this club. This is a club that's based on fast, attacking, offensive football. But I'll repeat - it's very important to have tactical discipline within that. Your philosophy and your principles will always be governed by the players. There is a fantastic squad here, some terrific players, but there is no doubt I'll need to make maybe two, three or four additions to try and get that flow - and it will take time to put that in place.

Who are the influences on your managerial career?

I have been a student of the game. I've been coaching and managing for 20 years and travelled a lot as a coach. I've been very clear in my philosophy and had a clear vision in that since I was very young. My grandfather was a big supporter of Liverpool, along with my father, so I watched the late 70s and early 80s football. Obviously the Cruyff philosophy was very prominent because my dad was a big lover of Cruyff. As you move into the coaching, my philosophy has been a fusion between the British and the European. The single biggest influence would be Jose Mourinho, purely because he gave me the opportunity. I learned many things from Jose. He is a great man and the biggest thing he did for me is give me an opportunity and show belief in me, and give me that chance to work with top players.

The style you had at Swansea - would you hope to deploy a similar one here at Liverpool or does that depend on the players?

The principles of your game depend on the players but certainly that's a vision that I would hopefully over the next few years (implement). It certainly won't happen in game one because there are different types of players here. But over time, that's the ideology - to play that way. One, it's my belief, and two, it's the belief of the supporters. They enjoy watching it, and that's one of the biggest attractions coming here. Liverpool supporters are very educated in the game. We were here with Swansea earlier in the season and their style of football got a round of applause at the end of the game. That doesn't happen very often at away grounds.

Do you need time to build that philosophy here?

You do. There is no doubt about that. I'm very much a realist. It's certainly going to be a few years in relation to where the team is at now. It will need some investment and it will need time for me to work. But of course we're in the business of winning and winning games is important. But it's a philosophy and a style that's very much in the DNA of me and the club and hopefully we can roll that out over the years to come.

What does Liverpool Football Club mean to you personally?

For me it means an awful lot. There is a real emotional attachment. I've had a number of opportunities to leave Swansea and I wasn't going to leave Swansea for any club, because of my life both professional and personal. But the attraction of the history here, but also the attraction of the frustrations - to feel the club are still striving for that league title. Hopefully over the coming years that's something we can look to challenge for. Certainly not immediately, there are still a lot of improvements to be made. This is an iconic football club. It's a club that's up there with the world's great. When you talk Liverpool Football Club you're talking Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Inter Milan, AC Milan. It's an enormous club. The challenge and the motivation is for me to do the best I possibly can and I will always fight for my life for Liverpool, and that will be on and off the field.

How excited are you about some of the players you will be working with here?

I'm really looking forward to it. I spoke to Steven Gerrard last night. That was fantastic, I had a nice chat with him. I have always worked well with people. To me, it's doesn't matter whether they're big stars or not, the club's success is the most important and every player I work with will have to be a part of the team. There are some wonderful talents. If you look at the likes of Steven; Jamie Carragher has been a wonderful player for this football club; you've got Pepe Reina, who's a top, world-class goalkeeper, and many other talents within the group. I always have a close relationship with players. I speak very openly and honestly with them so they know where they stand. I like to educate players. You train dogs, I like to educate players both on and off the field.

Early days, of course, but have you identified transfer targets?

Again, it's important to assess the group, but having watched Liverpool I've certainly got an idea what could improve., that's for sure?

And have you spoken to the owners about a transfer budget?

Yes. There is money to spend. We haven't got the wheelbarrow overflowing. It's not falling out over the edges but there is money to spend. There are some terrific players here and big talents and I want to help improve them as players and as people. There will be some additions to improve and improve our way of playing as well.

Supporters here are desperate to get back in the Champions League - is that your own aim?

It's an aim for every manager at a top club. That's the holy grail, but also, in time, we want to be challenging for the title. For me, and it's not going to be straight away because that's not realistic, winning the title is something we want to achieve. It's not just aiming for fourth place. The Champions League is fantastic and that's where this club wants to be. It's going to be a process and ultimately, hopefully, that will take us up towards the top of the league and challenging. That's where this club belongs.

Finally, what would your message to Liverpool supporters be?

I'd just like to say, I'm honoured and blessed to be your manager. All I can promise is I'll fight for my life for the club. My family will move to the area and we're really excited about moving to the city of Liverpool, getting to know the football club and the people of Liverpool. I will leave no stone unturned in my quest - and that quest will be relentless - to try and get Liverpool back on the map again as a successful football club.

Very well taken interview . . . Official welcome sir . . YNWA!

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/rodgers-the-first-lfc-interview?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


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Re: Breaking: Liverpool sack Brendan Rodgers

Post by Fahim89 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:13 am

My favorite part of the interview where his final words. .

I will leave no stone unturned in my quest - and that quest will be relentless - to try and get Liverpool back on the map again as a successful football club.

Inspiring :bow:

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Post by Fahim89 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:21 pm



A touch of class :bow:

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Post by Nishankly on Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:00 pm

Mixed feelings. Glad he mentioned we need 2-3 new players.

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Re: Breaking: Liverpool sack Brendan Rodgers

Post by Don't call me James on Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:49 pm

Now that it's official, I'm backing him 100% and I definitely believe he's the right man to take us back to the pinnacle.

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