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Post by Harmonica on Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:35 pm

If they let play continue, goal should be counted. I mean England could have scored on the counter and Ukraine player had to take a yellow. There is no butterfly effect rule in football. England cheated today.

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Re: Group D: England vs Ukraine discussion

Post by urbaNRoots on Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:48 pm

It was offside therefore no goal. People having problems getting this :facepalm:
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Re: Group D: England vs Ukraine discussion

Post by Harmonica on Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:50 pm

@urbaNRoots wrote:It was offside therefore no goal. People having problems getting this :facepalm:
But it was a yellow, and freekick from 20 meters for England?

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Re: Group D: England vs Ukraine discussion

Post by aleumdance on Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:52 pm

The butthurt when England gets a result

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Re: Group D: England vs Ukraine discussion

Post by Harmonica on Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:59 pm

@aleumdance wrote:The butthurt when England gets a result
Nah, I'm not butthurt, just love the hypocrisy when ever it hits. So when England cheats it's ok, when RvP kicks, slaps, wastes time and acts like cnut he doesn't deserve to be sent of for it?

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Re: Group D: England vs Ukraine discussion

Post by aleumdance on Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:01 pm

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@aleumdance wrote:The butthurt when England gets a result
Nah, I'm not butthurt, just love the hypocrisy when ever it hits. So when England cheats it's ok, when RvP kicks, slaps, wastes time and acts like cnut he doesn't deserve to be sent of for it?

mate, just see NOW THAT England have gotten a result, they would take goal line serious now.. this is Blessing in Desguise for the English FA

when they cried for it, they whole world called them complainers

now all i have to do is sit down and relax and watch the butthurt flow from lol.com to here

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Re: Group D: England vs Ukraine discussion

Post by DuringTheWar on Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:02 pm

No moral high ground for ukraine, the linesman was like an extra player for them at times, that "goal" wasnt the only time he didnt call offside on them when he should have. Also shevchenko could easily have had a red card


england looking like they might do a chelsea :bow:

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Re: Group D: England vs Ukraine discussion

Post by Cotes on Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:07 pm

GoonerJay29 wrote:
@Cotes wrote:that's how u look at it?

Look at this way: if that goal stood, England would be rightfully upset because the player should have been given offside in the build-up. Ukraine might be upset the goal wasn't given, but if the correct decisions was actually made, the play would never have made it that far.

So whether there was an injustice against Ukraine really is a moot point.

An offside is way more harder to call than a goal, especially when an overlapping run is being made...
especially when the 5th official is right there...

The way to look at it is this...
Euro is all about the money...
They want more television viewers & seeing that the quarter finals matches are already sold out...England had to go through even though it was a clear goal just like how if Croatia had beaten Spain yesterday, Italy & Croatia would go through...so the clear penalty on Mandzukic from Ramos was not given...
sound corrupted doesn't it?

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Re: Group D: England vs Ukraine discussion

Post by Harmonica on Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:07 pm

@aleumdance wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
@aleumdance wrote:The butthurt when England gets a result
Nah, I'm not butthurt, just love the hypocrisy when ever it hits. So when England cheats it's ok, when RvP kicks, slaps, wastes time and acts like cnut he doesn't deserve to be sent of for it?

mate, just see NOW THAT England have gotten a result, they would take goal line serious now.. this is Blessing in Desguise for the English FA

when they cried for it, they whole world called them complainers

now all i have to do is sit down and relax and watch the butthurt flow from lol.com to here
Well, I agree you on there. I just wanted to cry for Ukraine, because nobody else was doing it.

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Re: Group D: England vs Ukraine discussion

Post by Jay29 on Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:29 pm

@Cotes wrote:
GoonerJay29 wrote:
@Cotes wrote:that's how u look at it?

Look at this way: if that goal stood, England would be rightfully upset because the player should have been given offside in the build-up. Ukraine might be upset the goal wasn't given, but if the correct decisions was actually made, the play would never have made it that far.

So whether there was an injustice against Ukraine really is a moot point.

An offside is way more harder to call than a goal, especially when an overlapping run is being made...
especially when the 5th official is right there...

The way to look at it is this...
Euro is all about the money...
They want more television viewers & seeing that the quarter finals matches are already sold out...England had to go through even though it was a clear goal just like how if Croatia had beaten Spain yesterday, Italy & Croatia would go through...so the clear penalty on Mandzukic from Ramos was not given...
sound corrupted doesn't it?

It's not really a matter of how difficult one decision in comparison to the other. Any international linesman should be able to call that offside, just like how any decent referee should be able to see that the ball crossed the line.

I can't really take any claim of corruption seriously, either. Was the missed offside call all part of the UEFA master plan, too?
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Re: Group D: England vs Ukraine discussion

Post by Cotes on Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:46 am

GoonerJay29 wrote:
@Cotes wrote:
GoonerJay29 wrote:
@Cotes wrote:that's how u look at it?

Look at this way: if that goal stood, England would be rightfully upset because the player should have been given offside in the build-up. Ukraine might be upset the goal wasn't given, but if the correct decisions was actually made, the play would never have made it that far.

So whether there was an injustice against Ukraine really is a moot point.

An offside is way more harder to call than a goal, especially when an overlapping run is being made...
especially when the 5th official is right there...

The way to look at it is this...
Euro is all about the money...
They want more television viewers & seeing that the quarter finals matches are already sold out...England had to go through even though it was a clear goal just like how if Croatia had beaten Spain yesterday, Italy & Croatia would go through...so the clear penalty on Mandzukic from Ramos was not given...
sound corrupted doesn't it?

It's not really a matter of how difficult one decision in comparison to the other. Any international linesman should be able to call that offside, just like how any decent referee should be able to see that the ball crossed the line.

I can't really take any claim of corruption seriously, either. Was the missed offside call all part of the UEFA master plan, too?

It was an overlapping run...
When players do that, when the ball is played, it is difficult sometimes for the lines man to determine who was off-side & in most cases, the call will go to the attacking team...

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Re: Group D: England vs Ukraine discussion

Post by vizkosity on Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:20 am

Sheva retired from international ?

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