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Post by Onyx on Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:43 pm

Germany vs England/Italy discussion.


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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by REWB on Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:44 pm

oh come on dude, a bit too early? lool

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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by rwo power on Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:06 pm

mtfootball wrote:Germany vs England/Italy discussion.
You think Germany is so good that England and Italy need to team up to play us? Razz

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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by Potential on Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:10 pm

Why would you put Germany vs England/Italy, it's obviously going to be Germany vs Italy; England is going to get it's ass whipped so bad that even the English media is going to criticize them.

Also, regardless of the result (Italy will probably win), the game is going to be entertaining.

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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by The Messiah on Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:14 pm

England vs Germany, I love England but I am Bayern fanatic and a die hard, hardcore fan and for that reason I stick with Germany.


Not a single f::k is given about Italy and Balotelli

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Germany vs. Italy Discussion

Post by Babun on Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:16 pm

As long as I remember, Germany never won a competitive game vs. Italy in K.O. stages therefore I feel pretty pessimistic about the outcome.

Discuss! eco smile


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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by Onyx on Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:17 pm

http://www.goallegacy.net/t22464-semi-final-germany-vs-italy-discussion.

:coffee: eco smile

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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by Eivindo on Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:50 pm

Games like these arent good for my heart, thats for sure. I dont even wanna know my pulse when there was a pk shootout earlier today.
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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by Arquitescu on Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:54 pm

I'll write my full thoughts later but:

I'll tell you:

1. Italia already a team devoid of stamina will be further drained from this taxing match against England as ET is just a bonus.

2. Past records don't mean anything. Germany are the better team and will go through given their momentum and confidence.

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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by VivaStPauli on Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:56 pm

Italy looked f*cking great though, finishing aside. I'm a bit scared, they might just knock us the f*ck out.

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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by Arquitescu on Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:58 pm

@VivaStPauli wrote:Italy looked f*cking great though, finishing aside. I'm a bit scared, they might just knock us the f*ck out.


Advantage for Italia is that they play better and dominate teams that actually want to play football.

But the fatigue factor and the underdog mentality of the Germans (only due to the record against Italia that troubles Germans) will see them go through.


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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by Zealous on Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:02 am

Dat reverse Jinx :lucas :

I still think Germany will win though.

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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by Arquitescu on Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:05 am

@Zealous wrote:Dat reverse Jinx :lucas :

I still think Germany will win though.

Nah not really Very Happy

Thing is I am just happy Italia are through as a loss against England would have been too much.

Matches that make me nervous most are the ones that are on equal footing in terms of outcome.

I'm pretty much resigned to thinking young Germany will prevail onto the finals. They are literally destined for it. Hence my prediction that Germany will win the Euros.

Speaking of jinx....Zeal I was wondering if you'd help me on a long article on how Italia will lose to Germany hmm

Down for it buddy? Twisted Evil

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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by Swanhends on Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:09 am

Ozil is going to run riot with whatever assortment of wingers/strikers he is paired with

Ozil-Khedira-Schweinsteiger will expose Pirlo's defensive liability just like they did with the Netherlands

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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by Zealous on Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:14 am

Ozil and Khedira have come up against better midfields and have come out on top. But never underestimate the heart of a champion and Italy have that right now.

All I know is I'm in for a treat eco smile

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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by Arquitescu on Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:17 am

BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Ozil is going to run riot with whatever assortment of wingers/strikers he is paired with

Ozil-Khedira-Schweinsteiger will expose Pirlo's defensive liability just like they did with the Netherlands

Pirlo is a defensive liability only when played too deep. Otherwise he thrives against midfields like those who give him less space as he is more crucial with tight spaces then open spaces.

Speaking of that midfield...remember Germany-Italia friendly? Remember how Pirlo dominated that midfield?

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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by C.Marchisio #8 on Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:58 am

Marchisio & De Rossi will eat Ozil alive Smile

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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by Die Borussen on Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:01 am

@C.Marchisio #8 wrote:Marchisio & De Rossi will eat Ozil alive Smile

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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by Le Samourai on Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:03 am

Will Chiellini be back?

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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by REWB on Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:07 am

^^fck me ozil looks EPIC in that pic. looks like a total beast.

back on topic, i think it will be an even game. i have a feeling ozil will flop though, pirlo will shine again. Germany will go through as they have much more clinical players.

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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by Babun on Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:13 am

Arquitecto wrote:
BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Ozil is going to run riot with whatever assortment of wingers/strikers he is paired with

Ozil-Khedira-Schweinsteiger will expose Pirlo's defensive liability just like they did with the Netherlands

Pirlo is a defensive liability only when played too deep. Otherwise he thrives against midfields like those who give him less space as he is more crucial with tight spaces then open spaces.

Speaking of that midfield...remember Germany-Italia friendly? Remember how Pirlo dominated that midfield?
In that last friendly, Özil played like a regista and compeltely dominated Italy. Italy scored a fluke goal on the break in the end to get a draw.
I don't know about what kind of domination you're talking about eco smile
Germany had more possession, Özil had more passes and more key passes than any player on the pitch including Pirlo. He was MOTM.
Here, the report: http://blogs.bettor.com/International-Friendly-Germany-vs-Italy-A-Tactical-analysis-a55453

The difference is, it was a friendly and since then Italy play with a 5 man midfield. I still don't know how Italy is going to contain Özil though. Man marking him is the worst thing to do eco smile Unlike Pirlo, he plays very advanced and takes markers away from action if covered too tightly. Just look at both Schweini assists vs. Netherlands. Also, Pirlo plays exactly where Özil works eco smile He'll have his hands/ feets full defending against him.

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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by The Messiah on Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:48 am

And suddenly Madrid fans are here, supporting Germany. How plastic can it get.

Anyways this is going to be a difficult mactch, I'm worrIed about this match and I wanted England to be victorious so German can avoid Italy, it's here and its here, expect Tony Kroos to come from the bench and ourst Oezil, as well as out perform him and scoring the winning goal.


At least we all know this is a wishful thought and anyone that goes about taking it too seriously should look at himself.

And this specially goes out to all my little Lambs, I've to make it elementary for them now.


I am on a horse.

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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by Luca on Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:55 am

BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Ozil is going to run riot with whatever assortment of wingers/strikers he is paired with

Ozil-Khedira-Schweinsteiger will expose Pirlo's defensive liability just like they did with the Netherlands

De Rossi, Marchisio and even Montolivo (or Motta) provide more than enough defensive cover for Pirlo.
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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by Swanhends on Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:57 am

@Luca wrote:
BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Ozil is going to run riot with whatever assortment of wingers/strikers he is paired with

Ozil-Khedira-Schweinsteiger will expose Pirlo's defensive liability just like they did with the Netherlands

De Rossi, Marchisio and even Montolivo (or Motta) provide more than enough defensive cover for Pirlo.

De Jong-MVB isn't exactly a shabby defensive combination either, and yet look what happened to them...

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Re: Semi final: Germany vs Italy discussion

Post by Luca on Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:59 am

BhritanniaBhlue wrote:
@Luca wrote:
BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Ozil is going to run riot with whatever assortment of wingers/strikers he is paired with

Ozil-Khedira-Schweinsteiger will expose Pirlo's defensive liability just like they did with the Netherlands

De Rossi, Marchisio and even Montolivo (or Motta) provide more than enough defensive cover for Pirlo.

De Jong-MVB isn't exactly a shabby defensive combination either, and yet look what happened to them...

You're right, but 3 midfielders all working for Pirlo, and then also Pirlo himself, that's pretty strong.
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