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Post by messixaviesta on Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:27 am

@JespSwe wrote:English media fawning over Pirlo like they've just discovered him.

That's not strange. Any time a player delivers an outstanding performance against an English team especially in a very important match there is a lot of fawning over him. I was immediately reminded of Iniesta after the UCL 2009 final.

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Post by Yuri Yukuv on Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:34 am

2-1 Italy, Balo and Cassano to play the games of their lives




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Post by messixaviesta on Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:57 am

@Yuri Yukuv wrote:2-1 Italy, Balo and Cassano to play the games of their lives

I have made the very same prediction. I think Balotelli will definitely score but I cannot say who the other two scorers will be.


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Post by The Sanchez on Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:46 am

@messixaviesta wrote:
paxtonpale wrote:At the 'boring' football...
Successful football systems and styles of play have 3 stages of evolution.
1. Revolutionary and totally dominating
2. Benchmark for others to emulate
3. Weakness understood, become less dominating and considered boring
For Spain this has been a 6 year process that has moved well into stage 3. For Italy Stage 1 has commenced... :coffee:

Interesting thoughts. Maybe tonight the shift in power in international football will finally happen.

Its what Craig Foster thought of boring football, an Australia analyst. Im talked to him about it and that's what he replied with. I tend to agree with him. Italy at points have sometimes played entertaining football though at times. I loved watch the passing game of Spain. Yes, it may not be as good as Barca though I still love watching it. Anaylsts find it entertaining. Fans don't because they don't get the significance of the beautiful game... I tend to agree
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Post by messixaviesta on Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:06 pm

paxton, nice reply.

I believe a lot in psychological edge due to history. It's not a major factor of course but it's a factor. Spain reversed the trend against France but we must not forget that the latter had given up even before the match started. That's the last thing Italy will do. Hence I won't completely ignore the fact that Spain have not beaten Italy in a competitive match since 1920.

Then again Spain stand on the threshold of being called the greatest international team of all time. Only two teams have reached three consecutive major international finals - Germany in the 70s and Brazil in the 90s. However neither won all. Will Spain's reign end in a manner similar to Germany's in 1976? However this team does not lack anything in determination and fighting spirit and if they do win the trophy in spite of everything they would have created football history.


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Post by Onyx on Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:30 pm

Now at AC Milan, Cassano is eager to show Spaniards what they have been missing after they failed to “appreciate” him.

"It would be great to beat the Spanish. My spell at Real Madrid didn't exactly go well. They called me fat and didn't appreciate me, so I am ready to put things in their place,” Cassano told ESPN.

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Post by Juveman17 on Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:55 pm

Poor Cassano, i noticed he had a belly versus Russia........

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Post by boss on Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:41 pm

Italy will win....It's their time ..theirs chance....anddd their Super Mario Smile

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:48 pm

Italy XI vs Spain: Buffon, Abate, Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini, Pirlo, Marchisio, De Rossi, Montolivo, Cassano, Balotelli

Spain XI: Casillas; Arbeloa, Pique, Ramos, Alba; Busquets, Xavi, Xabi Alonso; Iniesta, Silva, Fábregas.

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Post by Onyx on Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:49 pm

Del Bosque said 3 forwards. Final: Spain vs Italy - Page 4 37329810
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Post by nasir6371 on Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:54 pm

mtfootball wrote:Del Bosque said 3 forwards. Final: Spain vs Italy - Page 4 37329810

VDB has said Iniesta is a forward on numerous times. Don't be deceived

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Post by lszanto on Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:57 pm

mtfootball wrote:Del Bosque said 3 forwards. Final: Spain vs Italy - Page 4 37329810

Was 100% deceived by this aswell Neutral

No forwards means it's probably not worth watching till the 60th minute or something when they make subs...
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Post by Onyx on Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:59 pm

@lszanto wrote:
mtfootball wrote:Del Bosque said 3 forwards. Final: Spain vs Italy - Page 4 37329810

Was 100% deceived by this aswell Neutral

No forwards means it's probably not worth watching till the 60th minute or something when they make subs...

Yeh after Pedro's performance, I think he deserved to start the final.
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Post by lszanto on Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:01 pm

mtfootball wrote:
@lszanto wrote:
mtfootball wrote:Del Bosque said 3 forwards. Final: Spain vs Italy - Page 4 37329810

Was 100% deceived by this aswell Neutral

No forwards means it's probably not worth watching till the 60th minute or something when they make subs...

Yeh after Pedro's performance, I think he deserved to start the final.

Yeah wouldn't really care who it was just a real forward, even somebody like Navas would be awesome to see.

The issue is if they put a real forward on they might do something horrific like try and shoot.
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Post by Art Morte on Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:39 pm

@lszanto wrote:
mtfootball wrote:Del Bosque said 3 forwards. Final: Spain vs Italy - Page 4 37329810

Was 100% deceived by this aswell Neutral

No forwards means it's probably not worth watching till the 60th minute or something when they make subs...

Euro final not worth watching? Okay then.


Well, a great tournament is coming to an end. Hopefully we shall get a good and fair game. Spain to make history with a 2 - 0 win, Iniesta and Xavi to score.
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Post by guest7 on Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:49 pm

@lszanto wrote:
mtfootball wrote:Del Bosque said 3 forwards. Final: Spain vs Italy - Page 4 37329810

Was 100% deceived by this aswell Neutral

No forwards means it's probably not worth watching till the 60th minute or something when they make subs...

I suppose Chelsea vs. Bayern final wasn't worth watching either becouse Chelsea wasn't even attacking that game? I mean did Chelsea even create 1 open play chance?
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Post by Tifoso Romanista on Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:55 pm

so nervous :brickwall:

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Post by Juveman17 on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:07 pm

Espn is down............

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Post by Adit on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:30 pm

Pirlo utterly owned by Xavi so far. Just out classed him.

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Post by guest7 on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:36 pm

Chielleni was utterly destroyed in the first goal if anything.

Always said the guy is overrated. Inb4 "but he has PHD in economics" Laughing
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Post by Swanhends on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:41 pm

According to UEFA Italy had more possession than Spain in first half.

Coincidence that Spain actually played good football for once this tournament? I think not hmm

possession-hording = Anti Football :coffee:

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Post by Ganso on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:46 pm

Se7en wrote:Chielleni was utterly destroyed in the first goal if anything.

Always said the guy is overrated. Inb4 "but he has PHD in economics" Laughing
bu bu but hes playing as a lb

better than silva Laughing


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Post by Ganso on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:48 pm

BhritanniaBhlue wrote:According to UEFA Italy had more possession than Spain in first half.

Coincidence that Spain actually played good football for once this tournament? I think not hmm

possession-hording = Anti Football :coffee:
of course.This is one of those rare matches in which Xavi decides to pass forward.Spain playing great football atm
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Post by Beautiful Football on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:48 pm

According to Goal.com at first half possession Italy 47%,Spain 53%.while La Roja have also only completed 32 more passes than their opponents.

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Post by M99 on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:52 pm

Dr Chiellini should get a PHD in defending :facepalm:

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Post by jibers on Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:16 pm

Xavi has been peerless. Officially the best dictating cm in history for me

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