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Post by halamadrid2 Sun 25 Jan 2015 - 18:00

This team is better than the one we had back when we last won the league, back then we had 4/5 players that were 23 and above, this team only has one in the starting line up who is basically our Xabi not in style but leadership). The posession, intensity and team work is something that has been absent since Toril left. Even the game we lose we play beautiful football

Burgui though, he is something else, comfortably the best winger we have produced since a long long time (I consider Jese more of a forward) our B team traditionally play with out and out wingers doing the same things game in game out, this is probably the first time we have an inverted winger starting every game. The ease by which he gets past players is amazing, he makes it look so easy literally just walking past them. Carlo was at the game hope the pos finally realises he has an amazing winger in the b team and doesnt need to play Carvajal or Marcelo as wingers when our first choices are out

Wonder where Odegaard will play hmm dont think he will displace Medran, Aguza and Llorente in the midfield as the former and latter are considered the future whereas Aguza is there for experience. Can he play RW or CF?? Those are the two positions he will realistically occupy imo

Btw we are top of the league banana

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Post by Freeza Sun 25 Jan 2015 - 18:02

Asensio and Ødegaard will all be almost guaranteed a place in the starting 11 next season I'd think. Unless they aren't lent out.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun 25 Jan 2015 - 18:10

We usually sell all our players in the summer anyways so there will be plenty of spots for the new players. Isnt Odegaard supposed to join up with Castilla now?
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Post by Freeza Sun 25 Jan 2015 - 18:31

halamadrid2 wrote:We usually sell all our players in the summer anyways so there will be plenty of spots for the new players. Isnt Odegaard supposed to join up with Castilla now?


Yeah, that's the plan atleast. Can't see him not playing in a couple of weeks after all this hype.

Do the team play with an AM at all?
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Post by sportsczy Sun 25 Jan 2015 - 18:34

they have too many AMs...  Burgui, Medran, etc.  The superstars of Castilla are the AM/10 players.

I honestly have no idea where Odegaard will play because there's no way in the world either Burgui or Medran get benched.

They've taken 19 points of 21 possible in the last 7 games, gone from last to first place and have the most goals scored in the group. Been dominant after an awful start.

Odegaard better be ok with competition because it's not going to be handed to him.
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Post by Freeza Sun 25 Jan 2015 - 18:39

The level of The Norweigan league is levels above this level though, and that's gotta mean a lot to his chances of playing. Medran played CM for the senior team when he played and Hala stated Burgui was a winger, that could make Ødegaard an AM and force one of the defending midfielders out.

I really can't see him not playing, he must have had some sort of guarantee to play when he's basically transferring to a club in a league with a lower level than he's used to.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun 25 Jan 2015 - 18:49

We play a 4231 or so it looks anyways. Llorente next to Aguza and Medran ahead of them so yeah we do play with an AM but none of those are playing bad. In fact we have no striker atm and have played Benavente there for the last couple of games. Could see him being tried there. As you said after all this hype he is going to start but I have got no idea where. Our midfield is successful now I would hate for it to be disrupted

Llorente-Medran
Odegaard

could work though with Aguza hitting the bench but that'd be very harsh because he is solid
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Post by Freeza Wed 4 Feb 2015 - 14:57

Ødegaard apparently got 2 assists in 60 minutes gametime for Castilla today, against a chinese team.

Edit: Apparently he didn't assist any, but played really well. Couldn't find the game.

Hala did you watch?
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed 4 Feb 2015 - 19:39

Na apparently it was behind closed doors. I've got no idea how he played or who he played with

But he will be called up for our game this weekend will have a chance to get a proper look at him then

The games are on RMTV on the official website btw if anyone is interested in watching Castilla
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Post by TheVoiceOfTheVoiceless Wed 4 Feb 2015 - 19:48

Is there any way I can catch RMTV in English?

Used to be on sky, but they got rid of it like 5 years ago.
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed 4 Feb 2015 - 20:33

I used to have it saved on my computer but then when it was going too slow I wiped everything off and forgot what website I'd used Laughing

But yeah that extra time was amazing
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Post by Freeza Wed 4 Feb 2015 - 20:37

He made this pass today atleast.

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Post by Freeza Wed 4 Feb 2015 - 20:37

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Post by halamadrid2 Sat 21 Feb 2015 - 18:36

Odegaard scored in our comfortable 4-0 win today
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Post by Cyborg Mon 11 May 2015 - 21:40

Can anyone say what system zidane used with castilla. tactics, formation etc. I don't have access to castilla matches.

I am just curious as he may just be the first team coach next season.

I am trying to imagine what style he plays.
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Post by titosantill Tue 12 May 2015 - 15:31

i hear castilla have failed to gain promotion. any thoughts?
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Post by sportsczy Tue 12 May 2015 - 20:25

titosantill wrote:i hear castilla have failed to gain promotion. any thoughts?
85% of the squad was new and the best players went with the club to US preseason since we had no bodies after WC... so basically no preseason for Castilla before competition with all new players.  Very slow start after which we were on absolute fire and got to first place.  Of course, Flo bought Odegaard that benched a midfielder that had no business being benched...  and Odegaard refused to train with Castilla lol.  He just played the games (badly mostly).  So we lost momentum and finished the season poorly as our midfield fell apart. Injuries to Medran and others hurt too.

Castilla and Madrid C are not really set up to win games tbh.  The goal is to develop players.  So you don't see moves/player choices that are optimized for winning necessarily.  Zidane developed a lot of the players so he did his job. Promotion was never the primary objective.

I personally don't think he'll become the Madrid coach next season.  But i am 99.9% certain that he will coach somewhere (likely France).  He got his diploma last week so that's out of the way.
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Post by titosantill Tue 12 May 2015 - 22:43

okay thanks, not a follower of castilla just wanted someone to shed some more info on the situation over there and what morale's been like. as for zizou, i've never bought into this idea of making him first team coach just like that, there's a lot more to learn about the trade, especially at an institution like madris. i don't know how he handled that odegaard situation, but i reckon it gave a little insight on him not being ready yet with respect to some of the egos here at the first team. i believe he still has more stripes to earn
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Post by sportsczy Tue 12 May 2015 - 23:38

He had nothing to do with it.  Flo agreed to a contract where Odegaard was only obligated to practice with the Madrid senior squad... and that's what Odegaard did.  Stupid on both sides tbh.  Nothing Zidane could do about it.

Like Bale and Carlo...  Zidane couldn't bench Odegaard.... although unlike Carlo, he went ahead and took him out early in the 2nd half of most games and eventually benched him some.  That couldn't have made Uncle Flo happy.

Zidane knows Madrid like no other.  It's more about being able to handle the politics, which he did fine as a Director with the club in Mou's first and second year...  but in the end, he wanted to be on the pitch and not just politics = he went for coaching.  

In today's game, most of the actually coaching is handled by the assistants.  SAF was like that his last 5 years at Man U and Laurent Blanc is the same at PSG.  The coach is more a motivator, man manager, psychologist and media handler.
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Post by titosantill Wed 13 May 2015 - 3:58

its still too early for him in my opinion, i'd like to see him try his hands elsewhere first...i mean, its not like he's a better coach than ancelotti and a couple of others out there (at least not yet), and we're still yet to see him in a high pressure situation at least from a coaching standpoint when the likes of marca/as, fans and players start getting on one's nerves...not to mention, a president that can sell a player he likes when he feels he wants to buy a new toy...and whilst assistants are a key cog in regiments, its not like the coach is some figurehead , he still has a lot to do, and i reckon there's still time for zidane to get engaged with more philosophies....any idea what style or styles he likes to employ at castilla?
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Post by sportsczy Wed 13 May 2015 - 5:18

He's a Pep Guardiola fan... talks about him all the time lol. Zizou believes in possession football.
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Post by titosantill Wed 13 May 2015 - 12:49

damn, i hate pep guardiola and everything he represents (from a football standpoint)
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Post by Cyborg Sat 30 May 2015 - 15:20

Real Madrid C is being dissolved. Why?

What are the implications? What will happen to all those players?
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun 14 Jun 2015 - 9:36

we are probably the only team in the world who have a b and c team. This is long overdue. it's not getting dissolved per say but merging with the b team instead. So alot more players to choose from for our coach
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun 19 Jul 2015 - 10:35

Some news regarding Castilla

Derik Osede has left Castilla and signed for Bolton
Benavente has left Castilla and signed for MK Dons ( scratch )
Diego Llorente has been loaned out to Rayo Vallecano (excellent choice)
Burgui has been loaned out to Espanyol (excellent choice again)
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Post by Valkyrja Mon 20 Jul 2015 - 14:39

Asensio and Mayoral have been Spain's best player the the u19 tournament. cheers :bow:
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