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Post by The Sanchez Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:31 am

Costs less and has recently been in the Barca system. Would he do well at CB?

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Post by windkick Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:44 am

Are we even sure that we plan on using Song at CB? Or is that just us speculating? He could very well just be used as Keita 2.0, proper back up to Buscuits.
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Post by The Sanchez Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:58 am

windkick wrote:Are we even sure that we plan on using Song at CB? Or is that just us speculating? He could very well just be used as Keita 2.0, proper back up to Buscuits.

Who are we going to buy with 3 or so million? Botia?
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Post by billy_gr Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:34 am

out of curioacity, how do you guys feel about Schalke's K. Papadopoulos?
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Post by Sir Psycho Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:40 am

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windkick wrote:Are we even sure that we plan on using Song at CB? Or is that just us speculating? He could very well just be used as Keita 2.0, proper back up to Buscuits.

Who are we going to buy with 3 or so million? Botia?

He's already joined Sevilla on a five year deal.
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Post by free_cat Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:44 am

There's no colour between Song and Romeu. Song all the way. Romeu is just not good enough for us and is too slow to play CB for us.
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Post by danyjr Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:25 pm

billy_gr wrote:out of curioacity, how do you guys feel about Schalke's K. Papadopoulos?
I have watched him 4 times and was impressed by him. He's a real fighter, strong and good in air but these alone aren't anywhere near enough for him to become a Barça player.

Just out of curiosity...what do you think of him?
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Post by Le Samourai Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:30 pm

Stay away from Papa :coffee:
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Post by messixaviesta Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:15 pm

alexjanosik wrote:I am trying to wrap my head around this transfer.
If Song is being bought to play backup DM,then there are quite a few players I prefer over him.I would prefer Thiago,Xavi,JDS,Fontas,Masch all over Song at DM.Dont know why JDS isnt being given a chance.He has been loyal to the club and deserves his chance.He would be much better as a DM than Song.But lets spend 20 mil on Song.
As a CB,again I would rather Bartra than Song,as much as I am not convinced by Bartra.
Doesnt make sense from any angle.

Spot on. If he was a free transfer to increase the squad numbers I might just have understood but with E19m involved I am dead serious when I say I would have given that money to charity instead. Also if he has been bought to play the Keita role if there ever was any such thing, well I would have moved Mascherano to midfield in such situations and brought on another CB whom we very sadly did not bother to buy. For the first time I wish Keita should have stayed with us.

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Post by messixaviesta Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:26 pm

Jonathan28 wrote:I would agree if we never bought Alba. But Iniesta had his Player of the Tournament performances with Spain playing left wing. He balled out of his mind. Probably because Alonso was there to cover for him in midfield.

The two are completely different situations. With Spain Iniesta is MVP and the game runs through him. If he is on the left wing then the game has moved there too. Smile With us if he is on the left wing then he drifts out of the game because Messi and sometimes Xavi run it from the center and to some extent from the right with the extensive involvement of Dani Alves.

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Post by messixaviesta Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:32 pm

CBarca wrote:
Not true. Prying Agger from Liverpool would take at least 25-27 million pounds (based on some past posts from Red), and then there is a potential bidding war with Man City which would be stupid to go into.

And Song is ~20 million euros, which is much, much different from 25 million pounds.

Why not keep the money in a bank and then add some more in the winter and buy a CB that can help in the business end of the season? Does the idea sound too fanciful? Juventus just bought Lucio. Did we try to find out if Bruno Alves was available to give just one example?

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Post by messixaviesta Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:38 pm

The Sanchez wrote:Question:
If Song was to play as a DM who occasionally plays as a CB... Would you rather have bought Oriol Romeu for 10m or Song.

Why the bloody hell would I even consider buying either of them? I would either buy a proper CB or keep the money for spending in January.

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Post by messixaviesta Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:41 pm

What I will probably enjoy watching more this season than our team's matches is you my friends complaining about how Song is eating up Thiago's minutes!!! Sorry but sometimes the sadist in me is very hard to control.

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Post by CBarca Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:43 pm

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CBarca wrote:
Not true. Prying Agger from Liverpool would take at least 25-27 million pounds (based on some past posts from Red), and then there is a potential bidding war with Man City which would be stupid to go into.

And Song is ~20 million euros, which is much, much different from 25 million pounds.

Why not keep the money in a bank and then add some more in the winter and buy a CB that can help in the business end of the season? Does the idea sound too fanciful? Juventus just bought Lucio. Did we try to find out if Bruno Alves was available to give just one example?

Well I certainly agree with you, I was just pointing out that Agger would not cost near the same amount as Song. And honestly, getting Agger at this point would be a bad idea. Not only would he cost a lot (27 million pounds...), he's very injury prone, which is pretty much the opposite of what we need.

I agreed that I'd rather we spend the money we spent on Song for a proper world class CB but there is nothing we can do about that now :brickwall:
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Post by messixaviesta Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:32 pm

Thanks CB. You are very right.

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Post by danyjr Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:40 pm

Just watching Everton vs United. Wouldn't Fellaini have been a better transfer than Song? He is so underrated and so versatile, and in my opinion better than Song in every respect. Possibly cheaper too.
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Post by Jonathan28 Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:23 pm

If people are having headaches that Song goes foward all the time then they will be having heart attacks about Fellaini. The guy goes spends most of his time in the opposition half, he's 1000 times worse then Song. He's more of a AM/SS these days to be honest.
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Post by Jonathan28 Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:27 pm

*I mean 1000 times worse then Song when it comes to just bursting foward from nowhere, not as a player.
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Post by danyjr Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:33 pm

Well to be fair his job in Everton is exactly to do that, don't you think?
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Post by Jonathan28 Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:48 pm

Nah, he's always been like that. Hels what you would call a box-to-box midfielder, only difference being a spends much more time in the opposition box. A mate is an Everton fan and you should see him when Fellaini goes on one if his runs, he goes mental lol

He plays more of a advanced role for Belgium, so that they can play someone like Witsel who will actually stay back.
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Post by Albiceleste Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:12 pm

danyjr wrote:Just watching Everton vs United. Wouldn't Fellaini have been a better transfer than Song? He is so underrated and so versatile, and in my opinion better than Song in every respect. Possibly cheaper too.
Yes I was saying this in chat, amazing in the air, good on the ball. He is probably better than Song and brings much more to the table. Although he is more of an attacking midfielder than a B2B like Song.

His aerial ability is just extraordinary really, Vidic was left helpless at times against him.

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Post by Le Samourai Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:08 am

Nope LM.

Fellaini is everything and anything...the only place he cant play is the flanks.
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Post by CBarca Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:56 am

Fellaini is a great player no doubt about it, and he definitely ripped United apart really, but he's not what we need.

Just because we have Song doesn't make the thought of replacing Song with Fellaini good. Buying Fellaini is as much of a mistake as buying Song, they're both players many people (including myself) could argue we simply do not need.

We need a very good CB, and that is not Fellaini, nor is it Song. Which explains my concerned and frustrated comments towards the thought of buying either of them.
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Post by messixaviesta Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:00 am

CBarca wrote:Fellaini is a great player no doubt about it, and he definitely ripped United apart really, but he's not what we need.

Just because we have Song doesn't make the thought of replacing Song with Fellaini good. Buying Fellaini is as much of a mistake as buying Song, they're both players many people (including myself) could argue we simply do not need.

We need a very good CB, and that is not Fellaini, nor is it Song. Which explains my concerned and frustrated comments towards the thought of buying either of them.

You said it. I mean why the hell did our squad need one more attacking midfielder. In fact it hardly even needs one more defensive midfielder.

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Post by The Sanchez Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:07 am

Didn't Tito say if he could not get Martinez he wll get someone similar like him? There are apparently 50 others like him and one of them is Song. I can see him playing few games as a centreback when needed.
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Post by CBarca Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:33 am

Yeah well Song is similar to Martinez, but the difference is that he's awful.
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