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Post by S on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 14:07

And btw,was he beasting since the first day he joined Leverkusen ? 2007 was when he joined them AFAIR.

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Post by Doc on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 14:07

I wonder what is Hans thoughts on this since Bayern fans are supposedly "more grounded and less plastic" than other big club fan bases. Personally speaking, not surprised by the remarks. Never thought he was that much of a ball handler (basically, thought his technical level was just above average considering his reputation) and Pep needs his midfield to be of a high level of skill.

To the incredibly sensitive Juve fans and there quite a bit of u hiding in ur own section, not saying he is a bad player, he actually is pretty good. Just never thought he was a Pep player. Alas, time is longer than twine so who knows. Next manager might give those said fans a different tune to sing.

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Post by S on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 14:17

Well to be fair,some do think Carlo will utilize him better which i agree with.

But he's not ours now so we dont care http://www.juventuz.com/images/smilies/market_8588_1372716001.gif (:

Great decision to sell a drunkard with knee issues for a massive profit.Dat foresight :bow:
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 14:19

@S wrote:That just translates to,'I rated so and so before everyone'

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Didn't mean that lol, just that he was awesome at Leverkusen and it was obvious then and there how good he was.
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 14:32

He was fantastic already for Leverkusen, absolutely.

He's been thoroughly mediocre for us so far. Couple of good games, couple of bad ones, mostly nothing special.

Together with Alonso and Martinez, he formed a midfield horrorshow of sluggishness quite some times lol.

Honestly though, I think probably most Chilean NT players after last summer had a bit of a weak season first half.
Guess he was basically tired all the time.

I'll wait and see how he will be doing now after the winter break and next season.

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Post by S on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 14:59

Vidal wont be the same player like he was in prime yrs.

I'd like to think we got the better end of the deal tbh.

His time at Bayern can be summed up through one pic

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 15:22

@S wrote:Vidal wont be the same player like he was in prime yrs.



Maybe, maybe not.

In any case, it feels quite good to make a substitution after 70 minutes when you're up 4:1 against Arsenal, and on comes Arturo Vidal Thumbs up

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Post by Doc on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 15:27

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@S wrote:Vidal wont be the same player like he was in prime yrs.



Maybe, maybe not.

In any case, it feels quite good to make a substitution after 70 minutes when you're up 4:1 against Arsenal, and on comes Arturo Vidal Thumbs up

Better hope that is the 2nd leg since you never know. Might make a rash challenge in the box, yellow, pen and 4-2. Then might make another rash challenge, red, down to ten men and Giroud who did nothing all match pops in to make it 4-3 from fk all.

A very plausible scenario...

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 15:34

Nah.
Vidal is a disciplined fouler.

I.e.he fouls like a maniac UNTIL he sees yellow, not after.

Don't think he has seen nearly as many yellow-reds in his career as his reputation would make you believe.

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Post by Onyx on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 17:25

Vidal is never going to fit a Pep team imo. He's not a technically gifted possession orientated player. The best he can do in a Pep team is a 'job'. Something like Keita did at Barca, just come on and solidify the midfield.

Vidal would a suit a more tactical team who don't rely on flashy players and are happy to just go out and do a job. Bayern are certainly not that.
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Post by Art Morte on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 17:36

Vidal got to play to his strengths at Juventus, under Pep he has to compromise.
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Post by salmano9 on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 19:04

Is he a starter BTW?

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Post by LeBéninois on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 19:09

@S wrote:Vidal wont be the same player like he was in prime yrs.

I'd like to think we got the better end of the deal tbh.

His time at Bayern can be summed up through one pic

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Why ? He's still 28 right ? Is there a problem with him ?

Let's see how he does under Carlo.

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Post by futbol on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 19:20

A tactically less disciplined but more flashy Khedira.

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Post by CBarca on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 19:42

@Onyx wrote:Vidal is never going to fit a Pep team imo. He's not a technically gifted possession orientated player. The best he can do in a Pep team is a 'job'. Something like Keita did at Barca, just come on and solidify the midfield.

Vidal would a suit a more tactical team who don't rely on flashy players and are happy to just go out and do a job. Bayern are certainly not that.


"Wouldn't suit a pep team" -----> "Would suit a more tactical team"

What.

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Post by S on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 19:45

@LeBéninois wrote:
@S wrote:Vidal wont be the same player like he was in prime yrs.

I'd like to think we got the better end of the deal tbh.

His time at Bayern can be summed up through one pic

Spoiler:
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Why ? He's still 28 right ? Is there a problem with him ?

Let's see how he does under Carlo.


His knee (:

Ever since the surgery,he hasnt looked the same since.
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Post by salmano9 on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 19:52

@S wrote:
@LeBéninois wrote:
@S wrote:Vidal wont be the same player like he was in prime yrs.

I'd like to think we got the better end of the deal tbh.

His time at Bayern can be summed up through one pic

Spoiler:
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(:


Why ? He's still 28 right ? Is there a problem with him ?

Let's see how he does under Carlo.


His knee (:

Ever since the surgery,he hasnt looked the same since.
Lol, are there any good reviews on him? Or is he just average and nothing changed form last season at Juve..?

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Post by Onyx on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 20:14

@CBarca wrote:
@Onyx wrote:Vidal is never going to fit a Pep team imo. He's not a technically gifted possession orientated player. The best he can do in a Pep team is a 'job'. Something like Keita did at Barca, just come on and solidify the midfield.

Vidal would a suit a more tactical team who don't rely on flashy players and are happy to just go out and do a job. Bayern are certainly not that.


"Wouldn't suit a pep team" -----> "Would suit a more tactical team"

What.

By tactical I mean a side who are neutral, versatile in the way they play and just want to get the job done. A workhorse side. Players like Vidal and Khedira are more suited to that sort of team.
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 20:34

@Onyx wrote:
@CBarca wrote:
@Onyx wrote:Vidal is never going to fit a Pep team imo. He's not a technically gifted possession orientated player. The best he can do in a Pep team is a 'job'. Something like Keita did at Barca, just come on and solidify the midfield.

Vidal would a suit a more tactical team who don't rely on flashy players and are happy to just go out and do a job. Bayern are certainly not that.


"Wouldn't suit a pep team" -----> "Would suit a more tactical team"

What.

By tactical I mean a side who are neutral, versatile in the way they play and just want to get the job done. A workhorse side. Players like Vidal and Khedira are more suited to that sort of team.


What you are saying makes absolutely no sense at all.
But it's ok.

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Post by Onyx on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 20:42

Which bit doesn't make sense? hmm
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Post by CBarca on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 20:52

Idk about Hans but the whole bit with the entire post is the only small bit that I don't understand

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Post by Onyx on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 21:35

'More' in the sense that they aren't necessarily tactically superior to Pep, but that they would suit the sort of team I described above and like to call 'tactical'.
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Post by Cruijf on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 22:52

I actually get what you're saying, that he's more a well rounded athlete, the type of player that would fit into an Atletico Madrid type team.

It's not true though, he showed with Chile under Sampaoli he's perfectly capable of playing under a style similar to Pep.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Thu 14 Apr 2016, 00:39

Let's take a moment here, so that everyone can register the fact that Vidal has had multiple MOTM performances since 2016 started.

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Post by CBarca on Thu 14 Apr 2016, 00:58

Always been a fan, hoped Barca would pick him up. Would have been good to have him today in the midfeidl to help against Atletico' thuggery and take a shot from outside the box imo

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