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Post by Bellabong on Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:31 am



For the first time in 6 years an engine that's a better technical achievement than:



Dat Nuke :bow:

But still no ability to shoot trees hmm

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Post by StrikingMidfield on Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:49 pm

Dat toad tech :bow:
On a more serious note, that was amazing. I've never played a Crysis game before, but this might just change that. Hell if the gameplays half decent the graphics will make up for it and more... :bow:
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Post by the xcx on Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:53 pm

Looks nice but idc tbh. Il be pretty sure crysis 3 on ps3 will be another sub-HD trash.
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Post by Bellabong on Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:58 pm

@StrikingMidfield wrote:Dat toad tech :bow:
On a more serious note, that was amazing. I've never played a Crysis game before, but this might just change that. Hell if the gameplays half decent the graphics will make up for it and more... :bow:

Crysis and Crysis: Warhead received critical acclaim not because of their graphics (in fact while the prettiness/immersability was acclaimed, the heaviness of the engine was criticized) but because of their gameplay and how they improved on Far Cry. (Main criticism for Crysis was the lack of pace in some areas, Warhead improved on that a lot).

Crysis 2 is a slight step down in freedom and immersability though - even a disappointment to some - but fits the brainless CoD demographic well.


Nameless wrote:Looks nice but idc tbh. Il be pretty sure crysis 3 on ps3 will be another sub-HD trash.

Can you be a bit more specific than "sub-HD" lol.

Crysis 3 on consoles wont look as pretty as the tech demo above - Crysis 2/Crysis on consoles is akin to playing Crysis (PC) at medium settings with textures set to low.

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Post by Jonathan28 on Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:06 am

Why didn't they just wait for the next gen consoles to make the game? The graphics on the PS4 anx XBOX720 are gonna be insane. But wait, Crysis is publised by EA isn't it? That explains why.

Oh well, if EA weren't greedy they could have done what Bethesda ard doing in developing Fallout 4 for the next gen consoles.

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Post by Bellabong on Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:31 am

@Jonathan28 wrote:Why didn't they just wait for the next gen consoles to make the game? The graphics on the PS4 anx XBOX720 are gonna be insane.

The early rumours suggest that the Orbis and the 720 will feature GPU's equivalent to current PC, or even last [PC] gens specs so the biggest improvements you're going to see in the next gen of consoles is textures.

What you see in the above tech demo are the kind of graphics you'll be seeing on next gen consoles. Not the current gen.

Don't believe me?

This shows how much Cryengine 3 is gimped on consoles:



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Post by Jonathan28 on Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:11 am

Yeah, Sony and Microsoft are basically gonna bridge the gap with the PC in the next gen. Keeping up with the PC will be much easier next gen because graphics can only become/look so good before you need to move on to something like virtual reality.

Already begun saving up for the 720 lol, i'm guessing it will be released early-mid 2014 with a few games like Fallout 4 since companies have already recieved the devkits for the PS4 and 720 I have heard. Might wait a few months post-release to buy it though, since this is Microsoft we are talking about here. They fixed the RROD but theres every chance there will be another problem.

ll I want is Elder Scrolls mods on the 720, that is all.

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Post by Bellabong on Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:17 am

You seem to misunderstand the implications of the Orbis and "720" using old hardware.

What you see above would push current PC hardware (DX11 Crysis 2 does) so the rumours that next-gen consoles will be using current, even possibly previous gen based GPU's is not the greatest news.

All it really means is that the gap between a PC's potential and consoles capabilities is going to get even larger - and I thought a 6 year old engine on medium was a big enough gap already >.>

I doubt you'll get major mods for games on the 720 - simply patching a game on the 360 is extremely expensive, and the whole point of the closed systems like consoles and OSX is to prevent destabilizing elements that mods would introduce.

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Post by pUsHa on Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:54 am

F*ck that current gen PC , the best GPU out there costs twice more than the xbox ffs ....
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Post by Jonathan28 on Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:16 am

My PC struggles to run Skyrim on low settings, but as long as it can run Rome:Total War i'm happy with it lol. PC gaming is very expensive, most people prefer to spend money one a console once since you dont have to upgrade. Saying that, PC graphics are amazing.

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Post by Bellabong on Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:02 pm

@pUsHa wrote:F*ck that current gen PC , the best GPU out there costs twice more than the xbox ffs ....

A PC that can run Crysis 2/Battlefield 3 at Very High settings wouldn't cost more than US$550 fyi.

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Post by the xcx on Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:04 pm

Thats because Crysis 2 and BF3 arent so demanding. GTA 4 with mods, Crysis, Witcher 2 is where its at atm.
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Post by Pedram on Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:28 pm

Nameless wrote:Thats because Crysis 2 and BF3 arent so demanding. GTA 4 with mods, Crysis, Witcher 2 is where its at atm.

You're wrong. BF3 uses the most modern gaming engine (DX11), it's actually one of the most demanding game alongside Metro 2033.

GTA 4 was a bad port of the console version, it utilize 4 cores whereas most of today games use only 2 cores.
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Post by RED on Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:50 pm

I just don't get what the appeal of PC gaming is.

Anyways, the graphics on the 1st vid posted are insanely good. That toad looked photo realistic... Shocked

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Post by pUsHa on Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:59 pm

@RED wrote:I just don't get what the appeal of PC gaming is.

Anyways, the graphics on the 1st vid posted are insanely good. That toad looked photo realistic... Shocked

The only appeal for me are shooters and some strategy games i play with my friends !
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Post by Bellabong on Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:49 pm

@RED wrote:I just don't get what the appeal of PC gaming is.
Why would it be unappealing? A PC that gan run games at very high settings isn't as expensive as the public thinks. Mods make games like the TES/Fallout series, Total War series, Civilization series worth far more than the money you paid for them. Emulators render console "exclusive" not so exclusive.
Skyward Sword in 1080p anyone? Then there's the fact that you're not limited to a measly 30fps like you are on most console games. If you have a 120Hz screen and frequently play games at real 80-120 fps then there's a noticable difference when being forced to play at low fps's because of locks and 3D (Essentially halves your frame rate because you need to render twice the amount of frames). I admit, there's a tiny percentage (including me) that actually own a 120Hz monitor, but for the same reason I can't stand DVD/480p quality vs. 1080p/Digital/Bluray I can't stand 30fps.

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Nameless wrote:Thats because Crysis 2 and BF3 arent so demanding. GTA 4 with mods, Crysis, Witcher 2 is where its at atm.

These are "demanding" PC games:

  • Crysis: DX11 features before DX11 including parallax & displacement mapping, but parallax wasn't included in the final because the engine was demanding enough already.
  • GTA4: Bad Port a.k.a. inefficient engine. Nearly every mod increases the texture memory required and adds to the amount of data the GPU has to process. If you want to use 2GB of textures on a 1GB VRAM card then that's your problem for exceeding your cards capabilities on a bad port. Same goes for modded Skyrim & Fallout.
  • Witcher 2: Bad Port, not even demanding...
  • Neverwinter Nights 2/Witcher 1: Inefficient engine (Aurora)
  • Crysis 2 and BF3 DX11 are demanding, wtf are you talking about? Maybe you've been playing Crysis 2 and BF3 DX9 which are lulzy performance-wise and barely of note graphically (like I said, the console version of Crysis 2 is like playing Crysis at medium with textures set to low but is much more optimized)
  • Starcraft II: Sheer amount of data.
  • Metro 2033: Bad Port.
  • Mirrors Edge: PhysX
  • Company of Heroes DX10: Really inefficient engine.
  • STALKER: Ambitious engine - I'd class it as factors between the engine being inefficient and the amount of data being processed.


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Post by the xcx on Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:36 pm

They could have atleast change the HUD or whatever. It looks basicly crysis 2 2.0.
Might play it for multiplayer but even that sucks ass in there.
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Post by Bellabong on Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:27 pm

Nameless wrote:They could have atleast change the HUD or whatever. It looks basicly crysis 2 2.0.
Might play it for multiplayer but even that sucks ass in there.

Welcome to the console gaming business model and what it's doing to gaming in general :coffee:

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Post by Juveman17 on Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:14 pm

@RED wrote:I just don't get what the appeal of PC gaming is.

Anyways, the graphics on the 1st vid posted are insanely good. That toad looked photo realistic... Shocked

For me it's mainly strategy games like the Total War series. But some people just like games better on PC

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