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Post by The Messiah on Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:32 am

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Full name: Javier Martínez Aguinaga
Squad No: #8
Position: CB / DM / CM
Birth Date: 2 Sep 1988
Birth Place: Estella-Lizarra, Spain
Height:  1.90m (6' 3'')  
Weight: 86 kg
Foot: right
Market value: 25 000 000 €
Contract until 30 June 2021

Javi Martínez at transfermarkt.de: http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/philipp-lahm/profil/spieler_2219.html


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Post by The Messiah on Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:37 am

Martinez the 40million Bargain...

Yes I agree with you, Gustavo is a great players, he has good shoot in his leg, he's extremely fast and can recover quickly, all these help him to become a perfect destroyer since he's also 6:2 and has a strong phyiscal presence and physique, he's good with tackling, stamina is perfect, hard at tackling and can get away easily, as well as good interception but that is about everything.


Unlike King, I don't think he's that bad going forward, but for a club like Bayern Munich he's a bit detriment while we're are attacking and sometimes losses the ball far too much(through Bad passes), he's ok passing the ball to space but find it hard at times passing it to team-mates foot. Martinez might be better than him in this aspect but as far as I'm concern overall as player Martinez and Gustavo are evenly matched.

Another aspect you have to look at is that Gustavo is left footed and Tymo our only other right-footed destructive midfielder is not tall enough to deal with set piece since our Fullbacks and wingers are short and Badstuber is not good with headings and high ball, playing Tymo is a bit detrimental for us, although overall he's also a good player.

Another aspect is that without Boateng and Gustavo in our line-up, our central play is very slow, Schweini, Kroos, Tymo and Badstuber are slow players, most teams will use this against us if we play with lets say. Van Buyten-Badstuber-Schweini-Tymo-Kroos, because we'll have an extremely slow Central that could be open to easy counter attack, as well as slopping recovery.

All in all, we need another Central right-footed fast player, who is good with attacking and defending, as well as being able to help out in defending set piece, as well as offensive set piece and the only player that fits this ball is no other but Martinez.




To make things more clearer, now we can easily line-up like this.


---(Left footed)Gustavo(Fast)--------(Right Footed)Martinez(Fast)--------------
------------------(Both Foot)Schweini(Slow)------------------------------------


-------(Left F)Gustavo(Fast)--------(Both F)Kroos(Slow)--------------

-------(Both F)Schweini(Slow)------(Right F)Martinez(Fast)-----------

As long as we don't pair Kroos and Schweini together, with Gustavo, Schweini, Martinez and Kroos, at any given time we'll have a 1 offensive midfielder who is slow but can contribute to a defend and can attack better, as well as capable of using both legs, then we'll have either A physical fast right/left footed defensive midfielder to support them as well as help out in set piece.


Tymo doesn't fit this ball, he is too slow and playing him next to Schweini or Kroos can be deadly in that they are both slow and can not help out in defending set piece and we'll not have a physical present in midfield. So all in all, Tymo is more like an emergency back-up for us now, alongside DVB.

This way our midfielder is safer, Gustavo and Martinez can help out Dante, Gomez, Mandzukic, Lahm, Alaba, Dante/Badstuber/Boateng in defending set piece. So at a time, we'll have (depending on who starts) Gomez/Mandzukic, Martinez/Gustavo, Dante/Boateng in defending set piece, compare to last season when we had only Gomez, Boateng/DVB(hardly ever plays) and Gustavo for defending set piece and as you can see, this was exploited by physical teams like Napoli and Chelsea last season.


For these countless reasons, I feel Martinez is a 40million bargain for us.

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Post by la bestia negra on Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:18 pm

Ow hold your keyboard now nothing is offical yet
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Post by rwo power on Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:31 pm

According to the SZ, things might be a bit more complicated than first thought:

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/sport/fc-bayern-will-javier-martnez-angst-vor-dem-boesen-r-wort-1.1442979-2

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Post by The Messiah on Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:01 pm

it doesn't matter how it turned out be, we still have a good team.

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Post by Babun on Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:49 pm

He is burnt out in case you didn't know. The guy needs an extended rest to get back to his best again. he played 60 games last season, all as starter.

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Post by The Messiah on Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:03 am

60 game... affraid

Surely he will not be playing 60games anymore per season now.

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Post by rwo power on Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:41 am

Maybe that's why he'd prefer to go to Bayern. A little less stress Razz
(But then he prolly hasn't heard about Sammer and Hoeneß yet)

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Post by The Messiah on Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:26 am

@rwo power wrote:
(But then he prolly hasn't heard about Sammer and Hoeneß yet)


Hahahaha....All the drama kings, good cop bad cop, one criticize the other praises.


Attack department, I am similar to H Very Happy oeness.

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Post by CBarca on Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:14 am

Whenever I have a bad day, I come back to this thread and it gives me a good laugh.

You do realize that Martinez is quite slow, right? He's by no means fast...

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Post by The Messiah on Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:47 pm

@CBarca wrote:Whenever I have a bad day, I come back to this thread and it gives me a good laugh.

You do realize that Martinez is quite slow, right? He's by no means fast...

I checked up his pace already and he's faster than Schweini and Kroos, I don't mean he's a speedy Gonzalez but he will add a bit pf pace to our midfield compared to what we have already..

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Post by rwo power on Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:01 pm

Well, right now Hoeneß doesn't appear too optimistic that the transfer will go through.

Source: http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/573703/artikel_hoeness-ueber-martinez-wechsel_es-sieht-nicht-gut-aus.html

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Post by The Messiah on Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:04 pm

@rwo power wrote:Well, right now Hoeneß doesn't appear too optimistic that the transfer will go through.

Source: http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/573703/artikel_hoeness-ueber-martinez-wechsel_es-sieht-nicht-gut-aus.html

You keep posting negative things about this transfer, chill out Goddess be positive, it's all mind games. They denied Pizarro and Dante transfer at some point, it will go through.

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Post by rwo power on Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:09 pm

Well, I'm just posting current updates and the aforementioned kicker.de article is based on an interview that Hoeneß gave the German tv station n-tv today.

BTW, here's the article at the n-tv website: http://www.n-tv.de/sport/fussball/Hoeness-bangt-um-Mart-nez-Wechsel-article7029076.html

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Post by BayernObi07 on Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:13 am

HI All..
Been off for a while..
To be candid..Iam greatly upset and disspointed with Athlethic Bilbao
They are a shameless Club..i am so full of hatred for that club right now ( Forgive me Lord)...
How can they be so cruel to want to force us part with another 6 to 8 million euros again..instead of taking the 40 million euros ..i say its cruelty..
and want to frustrate Javi...they are even holding back Lliorente...i say Athlethic Bilbao are a very unhappy club to be in..and its condescending what they are doing...Javis career is being threathened from being brighter..

its a Pity...i f i had a choice..Let Bayern Pay..and take him,.....Bilbao will reap the fruits of their unfair inconsistency and unsportmanship
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Post by BayernObi07 on Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:16 pm

Hey i heard Bayern is not liable to pay any TAX on Javis transfer...
Javi Martinez’s transfer exempt from tax, neither income tax nor VAT ..

look at this site :

http://blogs.bettor.com/Javi-Martinezs-transfer-exempt-from-tax,-neither-income-tax-nor-VAT-a181880
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Post by The Messiah on Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:42 am

Javi Martinez has passed a medical at Bayern Munich, paving the way for him to complete what would be a German record transfer.


Reports in Germany said Martinez, 23, successfully completed his medical tests at 02.44 BST. The Spain international midfielder has a €40 million release clause in his Athletic Bilbao contract.

Martinez told waiting reporters: "Todo bien" - meaning "everything's fine" - as he left the medical. He had been flown to Bavaria on a private plane after training with the Bilbao squad for the last time on Tuesday afternoon.

Bayern's chief executive officer Karl-Heinz Rummenigge reached a breakthrough in negotiations with the Spanish FA and Bilbao on Tuesday, the German newspaper Bild reported.

The paper said the transfer had been on hold because Bilbao did not want to sell Martinez  but Spanish transfer rules say a player can buy himself out of his contract and deliver the release clause money to the Spanish FA.

Under Spanish tax laws, this would add an extra cost to the €40 million cost of the release clause.

Reports in Germany say Martinez will fly back to Spain and deliver the money, and Bayern president Uli Hoeness told Bayrischer Rundfunk he was "very optimistic" that the transfer could be completed within the next few days.

The Martinez transfer speculation became a saga soon after it was first reported by Bild two weeks ago. Munich legends had plenty to say, with comments by Franz Beckenbauer ranging from "he'd form a fantastic duo with Schweinsteiger" to "we don't need the player".

When completed, the deal will eclipse the previous German transfer record, also set by Bayern when they signed Mario Gomez from VfB Stuttgart for a reported total of €33 million, but increase the pressure on the club to get back to winning ways after two years without a trophy.



http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1145504/javi-martinez-passes-bayern-munich-medical?cc=5739#


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Post by The Messiah on Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:46 am

Do we really need the player when we already have a midfield consisting of

Kroos-Gustavo-Schweini-Tymo...

YES WE DO NEED HIM and explanation is not needed.

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Post by la bestia negra on Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:54 am

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Post by Die Borussen on Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:56 am

how isnt coentrao worth 30m when some others pay 40m for martinez

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Post by S on Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:58 am

But we wont get our man sadly Crying or Very sad
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Post by billy_gr on Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:59 am

was the fee 40m?
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Post by la bestia negra on Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:02 pm

@billy_gr wrote:was the fee 40m?

not sure
reports state he is heading to madrid to break his contract
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Post by The Messiah on Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:04 pm

Ninis wrote:how isnt coentrao worth 30m when some others pay 40m for martinez

fuu

Because Marcelo is better than Coentrao but I get you point, Schweini, Kroos and Gustavo are probably better than Martinez but they will have 4 positions to compete for between them(CD/CM/DM/AM) Unlike Coentrao who can only play leftback.


and I would also like to thank Madrid for signing Coentrao, otherwise we won't have a much better starting fullback(Alaba), Rafinha we got him for 4million and he has turned out to be a better player than Coentrao, Thank you Madrid.

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Post by Die Borussen on Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:08 pm

no one is better than coentrao except marcelo

also coentrao can play LB,RB,winger, and in the midfield

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