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Post by The Franchise on February 3rd 2013, 19:47

Poor Villa. Sad

I feel bad just looking at him on the bench....disgraceful.


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Post by free_cat on February 3rd 2013, 19:52

@windkick wrote:Depth is what wins you titles. When players have a ton of games like we do this month, rotating players is what keeps every one fresh. At this rate all of our starting 11 is going to burned out by the end of the month.

Besides, we dont even have a squad of 22, we have a squad of 11 per Titos/Roura's eyes.


False. We won the treble with 13 players. And one of them was keita.

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Post by danyjr on February 3rd 2013, 19:53

Valencia easily the better team in the first half, look more fresh, have got their tactics spot on and some absolutely fantastic interchanges with quick pace. I'm very much enjoying how they have nullified Barcelona. In fact no way Barcelona would have scored without that penalty. It was a penalty however, silly mistake by João Pereira.

And let me just reiterate what I said earlier today: Barcelona will not win Champions League with a muppet as coach. It is just a sign of being cocky to think you'll win no matter what. You won't, and the last few matches have been the perfect evidence to this.

Banega :bow:

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Post by windkick on February 3rd 2013, 19:54

@free_cat wrote:
@windkick wrote:Depth is what wins you titles. When players have a ton of games like we do this month, rotating players is what keeps every one fresh. At this rate all of our starting 11 is going to burned out by the end of the month.

Besides, we dont even have a squad of 22, we have a squad of 11 per Titos/Roura's eyes.


False. We won the treble with 13 players. And one of them was keita.

Our players were also younger. Look at us vs Madrid/Chelsea towards the end of last year

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Post by free_cat on February 3rd 2013, 19:55

@Brady2Moss wrote:lol la liga refs are a joke. never a penalty.

You are a joke. Can't be a clearer penalty. Doesn't touch ball and kicks Pedro.

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Post by free_cat on February 3rd 2013, 19:57

@windkick wrote:
@free_cat wrote:
@windkick wrote:Depth is what wins you titles. When players have a ton of games like we do this month, rotating players is what keeps every one fresh. At this rate all of our starting 11 is going to burned out by the end of the month.

Besides, we dont even have a squad of 22, we have a squad of 11 per Titos/Roura's eyes.


False. We won the treble with 13 players. And one of them was keita.

Our players were also younger. Look at us vs Madrid/Chelsea towards the end of last year

The team can be in low form for some games. Has nothing to do with rotation but with form peaks.

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Post by Brady2Moss on February 3rd 2013, 19:59

With Tito rumored to be away for the next 7 weeks due to treatment in the US, you should get used to this line-up.

-Fabregas is like a pedestrian in that midfield.
-Mascherano is an accident waiting to happen.

Suddenly, I don't feel at ease against Milan now.

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Post by RealGunner on February 3rd 2013, 20:00

Valencia's pressing is excellent so far. Barca not playing well.

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Post by The Franchise on February 3rd 2013, 20:00

Depth isnt that important, but this is just senseless Free, you surely see that?

We are running them into the ground.

There is no reason whatsoever to play basically the same front 6 this often.

And your using the 09 season, which is correct, but where in the 09 season did was have players the ability of Villa, Adriano and Thiago as back up?

We had Silvinho, Hleb and Gudjohnson...of course we didnt use them. I highly doubt Pep would of done this in 09 if he had options like this.

We are turning Messi into a poacher...he has noone in front of him to pass to.

Every player is taking like 2 touches too many, maybe because they are all midfielders and there is no further forward to pass to once they reach the final third.



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Post by The Franchise on February 3rd 2013, 20:01

My problem for this game isnt even fatigue, thats a issue considering we played a hard game not long ago...but for me, im complaining mostly about our tactics. They suck.
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Post by Brady2Moss on February 3rd 2013, 20:02

@free_cat wrote:
@Brady2Moss wrote:lol la liga refs are a joke. never a penalty.

You are a joke. Can't be a clearer penalty. Doesn't touch ball and kicks Pedro.

no. la liga refs are a joke. Fact! I can't remember the last time I watched a la liga match without any controversy. Valencia were already at a hadicap before the game began, no need to give Barca a helping hand. Makes the
matches boring...

Oh well, this season is over already.

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Post by The Franchise on February 3rd 2013, 20:06

Mate, it was an obvious pen...dont know what your on about.

Better last 10 minutes (last 5 of 1st and first 5 of this)
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Post by danyjr on February 3rd 2013, 20:07

lol Cesc has been absolutely awful today Laughing

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Post by free_cat on February 3rd 2013, 20:07

I don't care about your opinion on. liga refs. I was commenting on thwarted stonewall penalty. you need glasses if you think that's not a penalty.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on February 3rd 2013, 20:15

Valencia are pressing twice as well as we are. Quite disappointing. Hopefully tito will realize soon that we need more width than jordi alone can provide.

Also valdes should've really caught that today

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Post by windkick on February 3rd 2013, 20:15

Time to bring in Villa for Cex and slot Iniesta back to where he belongs

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Post by windkick on February 3rd 2013, 20:16

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:Valencia are pressing twice as well as we are. Quite disappointing. Hopefully tito will realize soon that we need more width than jordi alone can provide.

Also valdes should've really caught that today

Not sure how much this is Tito's fault, he is in NY

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Post by free_cat on February 3rd 2013, 20:16

@The Franchise wrote:Depth isnt that important, but this is just senseless Free, you surely see that?

We are running them into the ground.

There is no reason whatsoever to play basically the same front 6 this often.

And your using the 09 season, which is correct, but where in the 09 season did was have players the ability of Villa, Adriano and Thiago as back up?

We had Silvinho, Hleb and Gudjohnson...of course we didnt use them. I highly doubt Pep would of done this in 09 if he had options like this.

We are turning Messi into a poacher...he has noone in front of him to pass to.

Every player is taking like 2 touches too many, maybe because they are all midfielders and there is no further forward to pass to once they reach the final third.




I agree it's stupid. We should rotate more.

I was just pointing out that there's no point in having 25 players if you don't even use 15.

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Post by windkick on February 3rd 2013, 20:19

I never said we should use 25. I said its stupid we only use 11

Let's see who they bring off for Villa.

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Post by CBarca on February 3rd 2013, 20:19

It was a stonewall penalty and someone pls get rid of cesc and Xavi and put on Thiago and Villa. Cesc is just awful and Xavi needs the rest, and Thiago and Villa deserve the minutes.

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Post by windkick on February 3rd 2013, 20:22

Would also like to see Tello's speed. Dude was scoring left and right for the few minuets he was getting, we give him a new contract and then BLAM he doesn't even see the bench anymore.

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Post by windkick on February 3rd 2013, 20:24

Wow, the Guardado x Canales partnership is going to be a great one for los Che

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Post by danyjr on February 3rd 2013, 20:31

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:Valencia are pressing twice as well as we are.
Barcelona have long lost their title of being the best pressing team in the world.

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Post by danyjr on February 3rd 2013, 20:33

What a miss by Villa...

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Post by CBarca on February 3rd 2013, 20:34

It was beautiful build up. Wouldn't have even had that chance with Iniesta on the left tbf

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Post by windkick on February 3rd 2013, 20:38

see how much better we look with Iniesta back in midfield

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