Re: Diego López Appreciation Thread

by Mr Nick09 Thu May 30, 2013 5:38 pm

lopez has no recent history with the spanish NT, where there is hierarchy for goalkeepers (and everywhere btw), casillas is n1, vades n2 etc... if lopez gets a call, its a charity call. Unless i lost my memory, Casillas led spain to a 2 euros and a world cup while being outstanding and making 0 mistakes, specially in finals. VDB is in his right to trust a player that did so much for him. he also has the right to manage a group and not to shamble everything because one player had a very good 4 months period.

how people can change opinions in couple of months. just last season when Jupp arrived at Munich bayern fans hated him with a passion, now they are ready to build him a statue

by izzy Thu May 30, 2013 5:44 pm

Let's not get ahead of ourselves, there's no way he was starting or even getting called up. Laughing

Let's not act surprised.

by guest7 Thu May 30, 2013 6:09 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:lopez has no recent history with the spanish NT, where there is hierarchy for goalkeepers (and everywhere btw), casillas is n1, vades n2 etc... if lopez gets a call, its a charity call. Unless i lost my memory, Casillas led spain to a 2 euros and a world cup while being outstanding and making 0 mistakes, specially in finals. VDB is in his right to trust a player that did so much for him. he also has the right to manage a group and not to shamble everything because one player had a very good 4 months period.

how people can change opinions in couple of months. just last season when Jupp arrived at Munich bayern fans hated him with a passion, now they are ready to build him a statue

.... so vdb was right to call up pepe reina over lopez?

by Mr Nick09 Thu May 30, 2013 6:14 pm

Se7en wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:lopez has no recent history with the spanish NT, where there is hierarchy for goalkeepers (and everywhere btw), casillas is n1, vades n2 etc... if lopez gets a call, its a charity call. Unless i lost my memory, Casillas led spain to a 2 euros and a world cup while being outstanding and making 0 mistakes, specially in finals. VDB is in his right to trust a player that did so much for him. he also has the right to manage a group and not to shamble everything because one player had a very good 4 months period.

how people can change opinions in couple of months. just last season when Jupp arrived at Munich bayern fans hated him with a passion, now they are ready to build him a statue

.... so vdb was right to call up pepe reina over lopez?

yes, he has. again, he is managing a group in which pepe reina has been for the past 5 years and more. He is an emotional leader them, and chief cheerleader. there is no obvious reason to get rid of him to give a sympathy call to Lopez if he is not even going to play.

by Valkyrja Thu May 30, 2013 11:42 pm

Reina is one of those guys who keeps the players together, and IMO one of the reasons they won all these trophies, even though he didn't play.

by nasir6371 Fri May 31, 2013 12:00 am

Valkyrja wrote:Reina is one of those guys who keeps the players together, and IMO one of the reasons they won all these trophies, even though he didn't play.

Better to have a guy like Lopez(De Gea in a few years) breathing down Iker neck to get better and improve. I doubt Iker ever has to worry about losing the #1 spot to Reina. But VDB suffering from Lippism.

by Le Samourai Fri May 31, 2013 12:21 am

6 months is more like 2 weeks in a keepers world....and yes..there are much much more deserving. Andres Fernandez and Guaita are the ones that jump to mind - I'm sure Arq would throw in Iraizoz.

Del Bosque sticks with his guys and cares more about chemistry and cohesion than form at this point - mostly because it's proven to be the winning formula.

My complaint from now on will be if Arbs remains a starter. Great backup, squad worthy no doubt - but I think we can use a better right back.

by Mr Nick09 Fri May 31, 2013 12:27 am

is he even squad worthy that arbeloa? i stick my neck out in saying that both Azpi and Carvajal, even he only has a season at pro level are both more suad worthy than he is. Man has been on a free fall for about 3 years.

by Le Samourai Fri May 31, 2013 12:33 am

I will carry him - primarily because he can backup both flanks - has been playing with the team for a while - and within a team defensive setup he's demonstrated the ability to hold his own.

Definition of a backup - tell him to fill a very specific hole for 1-2 games and he'll slide right in without distorting the defense or the attack.

by Mr Nick09 Fri May 31, 2013 12:41 am

true at NT level when you use back ups very sparingly, it's a fair argument

by jibers Fri May 31, 2013 1:14 am

Dieguito is better than Iker. Iker is too ovverated. Shocking positioning makes him look spectacular because he is constantly recovering. Awful aerially. Lopez should start for Spain.

by Valkyrja Fri May 31, 2013 1:23 am

jibers wrote:Dieguito is better than Iker. Iker is too ovverated. Shocking positioning makes him look spectacular because he is constantly recovering. Awful aerially. Lopez should start for Spain.

What about De Gea ? Laughing

by barca 2011 Fri May 31, 2013 1:33 am

Valkyrja wrote:
jibers wrote:Dieguito is better than Iker. Iker is too ovverated. Shocking positioning makes him look spectacular because he is constantly recovering. Awful aerially. Lopez should start for Spain.

What about De Gea ?

He's at the U-21 Euro.

by jibers Fri May 31, 2013 1:37 am

Valkyrja wrote:
jibers wrote:Dieguito is better than Iker. Iker is too ovverated. Shocking positioning makes him look spectacular because he is constantly recovering. Awful aerially. Lopez should start for Spain.

What about De Gea ?

De Gea is u21 :facepalm:

Had Iker been in Goal United would have walked over Madrid and Madrid would be struggling in 4th place. Good luck with ur trophy winning goals of 2013/14 season with 'saint' Iker Laughing