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Post by RealGunner on Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:34 am

lmfao looks like someone sucked off all the blood from him Laughing

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Post by Blue Barrett on Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:35 am

When are they releasing the patch with updated player faces?

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Post by danyjr on Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:40 am

Meh...I know a lot of my friends won't care because they have given up on PES 2014. Many of them long time PES fans who've been playing PES since god knows when and almost all of them have switched to FIFA this year or switched back to PES 2013.

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Post by •MilanDevil• on Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:09 am

The patch will be released early november.
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Post by danyjr on Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:32 am

Is this a gameplay patch or a DLC (Data Pack)?

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Post by danyjr on Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:25 pm

Nevermind, found it.
officialpes wrote:Lo siento por los errores que PES 2014 ha sido hasta ahora. Quiero informarles que el equipo de PES está trabajando para solucionar este problema, y que en noviembre se publicó un patch que solucionará:
• Problemas de control manual.
• Desaceleración en el tercio final.
• Adaptación de los porteros, la toma y del AI.
• Mayor fluidez al jugador estrella goteo.
• Corrección de línea.
• Incorporación de la copia y de equipo basado en la exportación / importación para el modo de edición.
• Adición de rostros.

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Post by •MilanDevil• on Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:24 pm

Just a tip; set your PS3 display settings to 720p, enjoy Cool 

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Post by danyjr on Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:06 pm

Had go at PES tonight after not playing it for a good couple of weeks, realised why I stopped playing it in the first place.

While this game had a lot of potential, it was released too early. Apparently Xbox players can't even play it online after a month. Online is crap, on PC at least. Sure, no rain, faces, stadiums etc. but more importantly the gameplay itself has a lot of annoyances that should have been ironed out prior to release. It is a huge let down, because when everything works in PES it feels close to real football but unfortunately 90% it does not work.

Sad

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:33 pm

Agree with most of that.... just think the engine in reality is a next gen engine trying to break free from its current gen clutches.

Something is holding it back but anyway....

Got on it last night for first time in ages and picked PSG because was in Ibra mood Razz

So tinkered around with personnel and systems for a bit and settled on a 433 that i find works really well.

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The thing i liked about it was how tactically diverse but not only that it was really free flowing....

For example there were times it changed into a 442 off the ball...


Veratti would push up alongside Motta and Matuidi would move a little bit to the right while Cavani would come off the right side alongside Ibra with Lavezzi dropping back into left side of midfield 4.

I really liked that because it showed tactical understanding when necessary and it would also change back into 433 extremely quickly on the attack.

For example in one game i played Juventus.... the 442 i mentioned was in effect when Juventus had the ball but when Lavezzi stole the ball from Vidal it almost instantaneously became a 433 when i broke forward.... Motta and Matuidi both split apart again and Verratti dropped deep into his regista like role with Cavani moving off slightly to the right again.

In all of this another theme of the tactics sliders and formation i chose to use was that when Van Der Weil and Maxwell got forward and this would happen with regularity..... both Matudi and Motta would drop back into fullback roles.

There was an occasion where the 442 i mentioned without the ball looked like this....

Sirigu
Matuidi Marquinhos TS Motta
Van Der Wiel Verratti Maxwell Lavezzi
Cavani Ibra

Although i must mention that when the midfield went into a 4 it was quite a narrow 4 so if Maxwell and Van Der Wiel were at fullback or ventured into midfield with Matiudi and Motta covering them the idea of the fullbacks being the source of width always stayed the same.

I really enjoyed watching this sense of tactical intelligence and diversity on display through out the match and plan to test out more systems with different teams to see what the results are.
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Post by danyjr on Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:02 pm

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Post by The Franchise on Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:20 pm

Pls someone help me

I thought by now I would of figured it out, but first time finishes just arent working.

First of all, its random. Maybe 1 in 10, the player will shoot on his first touch.

But second, it makes crossing and corners just pointless. They dont even try to win aerial balls.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:32 pm

Tbh Dani its the same for me too.... it just doesn't respond for some reason.

Which is weird because the one thing i really really liked in the demo was how the heading and first time shooting would work from crosses.

Seemed leagues above recent games and for some reason they scrapped it.... god knows why hope its fixed.

I mean sometimes i get lucky but most of time the player just takes a touch then shoots.... annoying.

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Post by The Franchise on Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:37 pm

Its baffling. Every once in a while it will happen, I first thought it you actively press L1 and move the player a little you can do it...but no, not working either.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:18 pm

I just been trying it on basic shooting.... don't have the control of advanced but at least its responsive....

Basically when i want it to hit first time it does and when i want to head it... it does.

Like so...



Awful miss mind but it works at least lol.
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Post by The Franchise on Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:26 pm

Basic shooting Mad 

I love advanced shooting for the most part, my finishing is hit and miss but I have real control over the shots with advance.

BTW, another problem...the finesse/control shot with R2...totally broken, wtf is that about?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:32 pm

I agree btw.... i just heard a rumor that on basic shooting equals no delay and its true.

Problem is while advanced is better in practically every way imaginable but its not responsive.... its practically broken.

Its been mentioned in the massive patch coming in November that as part of the gameplay tweaks they are adding shooting fixes and improvements.

I hope to f*ck that making advanced shooting responsive is part of that because playing on basic is annoying.... despite the fact my heading and volleying is working lol.

on R2 finesse its the same story on advanced it basically doesn't work.... advanced shooting potentially really should be the only choice but its broken despite its massive advantages over control and power.

Fix it pls.
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Post by The Franchise on Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:33 pm

Incredible how some things they can do so unbelievably well and others, so unbelievably bad.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:39 pm

Yup there's been some good ideas this year but not implemented too well tbh.... all seems a little rushed.
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Post by RealGunner on Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:05 pm

Just get fifa so we can rant in unison
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:08 pm

Buy me it and i'll play brah.
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Post by The Franchise on Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:18 pm

Dont buy me it, I still wouldnt play.

No matter how much I complain about PES, I still wont buy FIFA.

I would prefer a game with some errors than some game which is the exact same as last year but worse lol
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:36 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I don't know how this happened by i some how have Dortmund in round 32 of EL :facepalm:

FML.
Finally got rounded to completing this tie Laughing and lost 2-1 on aggregate to this Hummels golazo ffs. Mad



What Hummels and Pizza Cheque are doing breaking into my box when its 1-1 is beyond me Laughing


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Post by The Franchise on Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:55 pm

Great tackle, unlucky. Santon?

Maybe should of played offside trap, I am guessing it was he who kept him on to have to make that tackle.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:00 pm

Yeah it was Santon.... problem there was the rest of my defence pushed up too high and no one pressured Lewandowski to slip in Pizza Cheque i thought i got away with it with Santon's tackle but then Hummels strolls in and lobs me Philippe Albert style Laughing

At least the league is going well.... 4 points clear at start of February although i did just lose to West Brom lol.

Lost twice in the league and those defeats are to Sunderland and West Brom ffs.
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Post by The Franchise on Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:27 pm

Great lob Laughing

Yeah, nothing more annoying than 3 defenders pressing up and frecking fullback playing deep. I like you can manual adjust how high your line is during the action, dropping deep on command has saved me a few times..aswell as everyone pushing up. Nice you can do that with a simple push of a button.

I started a season with Arsenal, depending on the opponant I sometimes play Sagna and Gibbs as LM and RM. If the opponant is weak and they press (especially in a 442) I want to punsh them but creating space in between as many lines as possible.

Send those fullbacks to wide midfielders, drop a midfielder into DM and spread the CB's super wide. One of them always has time on the ball. Then, two in midfield vs the opponants 2, play noone as a striker but instead a AM or SS and therefore having an extra player in front of the midfield line and now behind it.


My team is


Sagna -  Merte - Kos - Gibbs

     - Wilshere - Rambo -

                - Ozil -   Santi

Theo            Neymar

If the team is strong (like I had Bayern in the CL and got a 2-2 draw) I take out Wilshere or Rambo and get Flamini or Arteta in there to sit.

Sometimes I play Giru instead of Neymar, move Neymar instead of Theo and play Santi withdrawn on the right.

Im trying to hunt down a holding midfielder, which is proving impossible.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:51 pm

Also looking back i think the real problem there is i got far too aggressive.... Colo pushing all the way out to Gundogan once he's taken out of the game its difficult... the pass goes to Lewa and my RB Zuniga doesn't push out quick enough but it is difficult as Lewa hits it first time into the space.

As for the tactics.... most of the time in have been trying a lopsided 433 with Remy close to being an SS and Ben Arfa holding more width but seeing as i try to cut inside all the time with him it defeats the purpose Laughing but recently i got annoyed with my inability to break down the midfield so tried Ben Arfa as a false 9 which is kinda working so far but i got arrogant and went back to the 433 against West Brom and lost. Laughing

I'll probably look to getting more creativity and width in the team come the summer window if i can afford it.

The real question is how the f*ck did you manage to get Neymar?

I made 3 signings in the summer: Lukaku, Zuniga and Djuricic( Benfica) and i basically had nothing left afterwards Laughing



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