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Post by FennecFox7 on Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:55 am

SMH.. that was a beautiful free kick..
Buffon couldnt do anything about it

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Post by Harmonica on Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:56 am

Yeah ok, lol.

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Post by kantian on Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:21 am

I don't think he was bad. Italy play very physical and Neymar is at disadvantage against the stronger guys. I'm not making excuses for him but I think he played a good game. He showed great off the ball movement on the Oscar flick, and it's really unfortunate he went for the shot instead picking up an assist. I didn't expect him to do well in this game because Italys defense cannot be broken down by individual efforts. His FK goal was the go-ahead score and being able to put your team up when they're down is a skill most players don't have. Brazil as a whole is starting to look like a unit that could win 2014 WC. Is that too bold?

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Post by FennecFox7 on Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:15 am

@kantian wrote:I don't think he was bad. Italy play very physical and Neymar is at disadvantage against the stronger guys. I'm not making excuses for him but I think he played a good game. He showed great off the ball movement on the Oscar flick, and it's really unfortunate he went for the shot instead picking up an assist. I didn't expect him to do well in this game because Italys defense cannot be broken down by individual efforts. His FK goal was the go-ahead score and being able to put your team up when they're down is a skill most players don't have. Brazil as a whole is starting to look like a unit that could win 2014 WC. Is that too bold?

Not at all

I was immensely impressed with the way brazil rotated the ball. Italy pressured right and got their tactics right, but brazil simply were too good. They were quality when in possession of the ball and had some beautiful passing moves. Fully deserved win

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Post by laxman363 on Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:00 pm

@Harmonica wrote:He wasn't good against Italy. Also lol at Buffoon, maybe try to save a freekick in your side next time?

Actually no one reallly played well in the brazilian side than they usually do in everything needed to do except taking a shot at goal. Hardly many dribbles or through passes than usual and whenever neymar had the ball he was tackled hard. He at least fell down 10 times in the match. The only chance he got where he couldnt have been tackled hard was the free kick and he made it count.
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Post by free_cat on Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:38 pm

They won 4-2 vs a world class side and no one played well? You've got to be kidding.
Maybe no one was excellent from Brazil but several players were good and neymar was one of them, Fred the other who was better.
Neymar was fouled 8 times, he didn't succeed in dribbling and creating more because of that, but he finally scored from a foul he forced in a dangerous play. So I can't see how he was bad, just not out of this world.
And although buffon sucked in the free kick, it was very well taken and I don't think he could save it.

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Post by laxman363 on Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:07 pm

^they did win 4-2 but yes no played their usual self except marcelo. Hulk didnt play too well. oscar except for that brilliant pass to neymar wasnt good either. fred was an exception. If you win 4-2 doesnt mean the whole gameplay and team was awesome, it was just that brazil was not playing as well in their first 2 matches of confed cup. Someone claimed neymar did nothing except the free kick and i replied to him that most players did not play well either, the italians were playing a physical game and neymar was a victim. Thats all. And buffo could have saved it. He was expecting neymar would hit th near post and was leaning towards near post a bit but neymar did the clever thing by surprising him and hiiting on the far one.

Edit: And if u see my original reply,i said except for taking shots at goal, no one played thier usual self.neymar except his free kick shot did not play as well as he usually does and fred except for his 2 goal shots didnt do much
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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:37 pm

I'd just like to note that this Italy squad is a joke, no discipline and the side that faced Brazil had substantial loses.

That being said I'm shitting my pants Brazil are now back to winning ways.

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Post by Harmonica on Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:14 am

The whole tournament is a joke, only Brazil and Spain are taking it seriously. It could just well be Supercup type of deal between the two. Brazil and Neymar also getting the obvious FIFA World Cup ad treatment.
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Post by FennecFox7 on Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:22 am

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:I'd just like to note that this Italy squad is a joke, no discipline and the side that faced Brazil had substantial loses.

That being said I'm shitting my pants Brazil are now back to winning ways.

Really now? Who was in the final of the euros? Surely couldn't be italy?

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:29 am

Giggity5313 wrote:
@BarrileteCosmico wrote:I'd just like to note that this Italy squad is a joke, no discipline and the side that faced Brazil had substantial loses.

That being said I'm shitting my pants Brazil are now back to winning ways.

Really now? Who was in the final of the euros? Surely couldn't be italy?

Did you see the line up? Majority of the key players where nowhere to be found.

Barzagli, Pirlo, De Rossi, Cassano, Balzaretti and Montolivo came off after 25 mins.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:59 am

Buffon
Balzaretti - Barzagli - DDR - Bonucci - Chiellini
Marchisio - Pirlo - Montolivo
Cassano - Balotelli

Vs

Buffon
Abate - Bonucci - Chiellini - De Sciglio
Montolivo - Aquilani - Marchisio
Candreva - Diamanti
Balotelli

A world of difference between the side that won against Germany and the one that lost to Brazil.

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Post by laxman363 on Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:23 pm

Well played today neymar, but he dived a few times.
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Post by laxman363 on Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:24 pm

Well played today neymar, but he dived a few times.
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Post by Harmonica on Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:40 pm

Not impressed, can't beat a man, dives everywhere, actually dives like Alexis on crack.

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Post by Donuts on Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:16 am

@Harmonica wrote:Not impressed, can't beat a man, dives everywhere, actually dives like Alexis on crack.
Why don't you like Neymar, curious.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:27 am

Because he's a threat to Messi's records.

Neymar comes in and scores more goals than Villa/Sanchez/Pedro means Messi scores less goals and thus less records get broken.


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Post by Ganso on Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:00 am

yeah he cant beat a man, thats probably why he is the player with most dribbles completed in the confederations cup Rolling Eyes.oh wait, forgot you dont rate compeitions in which messi doesnt(cant) play
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Post by windkick on Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:28 am


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Post by CBarca on Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:23 am

Shoryuken!

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Post by FennecFox7 on Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:16 am

I really like his style.. but his diving is starting to get on my nerves...

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Post by Harmonica on Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:56 am

@Ganso wrote:yeah he cant beat a man, thats probably why he is the player with most dribbles completed in the confederations cup Rolling Eyes
Another lie, he has the most attempted dribbles, 0 successful dribbles in the last two games.
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Post by free_cat on Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:22 pm

@Harmonica wrote:
@Ganso wrote:yeah he cant beat a man, thats probably why he is the player with most dribbles completed in the confederations cup Rolling Eyes
Another lie, he has the most attempted dribbles, 0 successful dribbles in the last two games.

I saw him drible his marker vs. Uruguay a couple of times as well as once vs. Italy. Don't know why whoscored didn't count them, probably because he was fouled after the drible, but it was a drible still. Versus Italy and Uruguay, Neymar was fouled 16 times. Which is a huge amount of times.

Anyways, he is the 3rd top dribler in the confed cup after Iniesta and Obi Mikel, so obviously your claim that he can't drible anyone is completely rubbish, unless you only consider Messi, Iniesta and a couple other players as able to go past a player.

He is also the top rated player with more than 2 games in the Confed cup according to whoscored, and IMO he played well in every match, the first two more, but still good vs. more quality teams like Italy and Uruguay.

One wonders why Jiopsi dislikes Neymar when he obviously is a good player and hasn't even made his debut for Barça, being unable to play well or bad for us....

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Post by Harmonica on Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:14 pm

If you can't continue the play after the dribble, it isn't a successful dribble. From the 16 fouls, more are dives than actual fouls.

He couldn't beat a man against Italy, and against Uruguay, which is why I said he can't beat a man and just dives everywhere.

I hope this isn't actually indication how he will play in Spain, when he doesn't have the space and time he had in Brazil.

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Post by neuro11 on Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:24 pm

next season fanboy fight will be more interesting :coffee:
we already have Messi fanboy and possible to join some new neymar fanboy (who will pretend they like Barca)...

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Post by free_cat on Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:26 pm

@Harmonica wrote:If you can't continue the play after the dribble, it isn't a successful dribble. From the 16 fouls, more are dives than actual fouls.

He couldn't beat a man against Italy, and against Uruguay, which is why I said he can't beat a man and just dives everywhere.

I hope this isn't actually indication how he will play in Spain, when he doesn't have the space and time he had in Brazil.

If you beat a man and afterwards you are fouled, it's a drible and a foul. And no, not most of the 16 fouls are dive.

Well done to ignore the rest of the post.

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