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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:14 am

Just watched the highlights of the show and while the no online, used games restrictions and price is great they only showed 3 games i'm interested in.

So at end of day neither console has won me over based on these showings, i probably won't buy one until this time next year so there's time for that to change.

But as of right now i'm more impressed with Xbox's line up games despite the fact PS4 is cheaper and has seemingly zero restrictions.

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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by Mr Nick09 on Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:45 am

The console is so cheap because there is no camera included. Xbox are pushing the kinect experience and making it as part of the console while sony is separating from that. they first said the ps4 was a package with camera but now they are changing strategy to sell a cheaper product.

Imo, they should offer a second SKU at $429-449 with the camera, seeing as it's sold separately at $59

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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:03 am

BTW Nothing has changed after watching Sony's press conference. ( or the best bits)

Witcher 3 and MGS 5 are still the best games i have seen by a million miles.

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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by pUsHa on Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:04 am

Apparently Killer Instinct is a F2P game , only one fighter is free ... you have to pay for the rest one by one ... but nobody knows the price ... lol

http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/11/killer-instinct-reboot-is-free-to-play-only-one-character-is-free/

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From Microsoft ... I like Ryse , Quantum Break , and Spark maybe !? But I can live without those ...

In the end Sony has the best dev teams ... and they're going to deliver some of the best exclusives anyway .. I know where my wallet is driving me off to ... :bow:
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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by Firenze on Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:16 am

Only games that really wowed me were new Metal Gear Solid and The Division, those are not exclusive. I think that XBOX slightly edged it with their gaming content shown, but none of the exclusives justify the crap that comes with it for me. Sony have my money at this point.
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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by Mr Nick09 on Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:21 am

we still have no ideas what Quantum break play like tho, people in love with the name?

games i would buy right now are Witcher 3, MGS5, Battlefield, Destiny, maybe second sons and ofc that ubi game. i like ryse but that 100 bucks i save on ps3 are like 2 games for me lol

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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by pUsHa on Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:32 am

Just the concept Nick ...
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games and exclusivz:
So Yoshida announced "20 games in the first year and 12 are new IP", compared to Microsoft's "15 games in the first year and 8 are new IP".

Microsoft showed a lot of them during their conference, Sony however didn't. What I found interesting is most first party stuff Sony showed is either launch or launch window. For Microsoft I can only think of Forza at the moment.
This could probably mean that Microsoft showed the majority of their games already and Sony is saving a lot of them for gamescom to secure their lead in Europe and TGS for Japan.

So what are their studios and partners working on then?
Japan Studio #1 - Knack (PS4)
Japan Studio #2 - rain (PS3)
Japan Studio #3 - Puppeteer (PS3)
Japan Studio #4 - Freedom Wars (Vita)

Polyphony Digital - GT6 (PS3)

Naughty Dog #1 - The Last of Us (PS3)
Naughty Dog #2 - ? (PS4)

Bend Studio - ? (PS4/Vita)

San Diego Studio #1 - MLB 14: The Show (PS3/PS4?)
San Diego Studio #2 - rumoured unannounced title (PS4?)

Santa Monica Studio #1 - ? (PS4, just released GoW)
Santa Monica Studio #2 - The Order: 1886 (PS4)
Santa Monica Studio #3 - Stig's new IP (PS4)

Sucker Punch Productions - Infamous: Second Son (PS4)

Evolution Studios - DriveClub (PS4)

Guerrilla Games #1 - Killzone Mercenary (Vita)
Guerrilla Games #2 - Killzone SF (PS4)

Media Molecule #1 - Tearaway (Vita)
Media Molecule #2 - TBA (PS4)

London Studio #1 - ? (PS4/Vita?)
London Studio #2 - ? (PS4/Vita?)

Sony Online Entertainment #1 - brings DC Universe to PS4
Sony Online Entertainment #2 - brings PlanetSide 2 to PS4
Sony Online Entertainment #3 - rumoured title (PC/PS4?)

Ready at Dawn - The Order: 1886 (PS4)

Supermassive Games #1 - Until Dawn (PS3/PS4?)
Supermassive Games #2 - Transitor (PS4 console debut)

Quantic Dream #1 - Beyond: Two Souls (PS3)
Quantic Dream #2 - new IP (PS4)


Unconfirmed stuff/Rumours:

-Final Fantasy XV (PS4/?)
-Kingdom Hearts 3 (PS4/?)
-Agent (PS4?)
-The Last Guardian (PS4?)
-Gran Turismo 6 (PS4?)


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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:33 am

@pUsHa wrote:Apparently Killer Instinct is a F2P game , only one fighter is free ... you have to pay for the rest one by one ... but nobody knows the price ... lol

http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/11/killer-instinct-reboot-is-free-to-play-only-one-character-is-free/

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From Microsoft ... I like Ryse , Quantum Break , and Spark maybe !? But I can live without those ...

In the end Sony has the best dev teams ... and they're going to deliver some of the best exclusives anyway .. I know where my wallet is driving me off to ... :bow:

You don't know that tbf, i would rather spend money on something i know is going to deliver.

Neither press conference really did that for me, so its a case of wait and see.

Microsoft did deliver the games with Ryse, Quantum Break, Halo, Titanfall, Dead Rising 3, Forza 5, D4, Crimson Dragon, Project Spark, Sunset Overdrive and Killer Instinct and that untitled Black Tusk game.

Ok i'm not interested in all of them but they did deliver, i really can't say the same for Sony if i'm honest or at least from what i have seen looking on IGN etc etc.

The only two i'm interested in is Killzone and Infamous( as i just found out that Beyond:Two Souls is a PS3 game No ), please let me know if they showed more that i missed out on.

Because gaming wise that's a pretty poor showing considering i have already seen them anyway.

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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by Firenze on Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:35 am

PS4 is region free too, can probably import it from the US for £280ish

Also I think some people here liked the look of Killer Instinct (Xbox Exclusive?)

It's free to play..only you get one character free and have to pay for every individual character you buy Laughing

not bad if they're like £1 but anything else is silly
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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:40 am

@pUsHa wrote:Just the concept Nick ...
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games and exclusivz:
So Yoshida announced "20 games in the first year and 12 are new IP", compared to Microsoft's "15 games in the first year and 8 are new IP".

Microsoft showed a lot of them during their conference, Sony however didn't. What I found interesting is most first party stuff Sony showed is either launch or launch window. For Microsoft I can only think of Forza at the moment.
This could probably mean that Microsoft showed the majority of their games already and Sony is saving a lot of them for gamescom to secure their lead in Europe and TGS for Japan.

So what are their studios and partners working on then?
Japan Studio #1 - Knack (PS4)
Japan Studio #2 - rain (PS3)
Japan Studio #3 - Puppeteer (PS3)
Japan Studio #4 - Freedom Wars (Vita)

Polyphony Digital - GT6 (PS3)

Naughty Dog #1 - The Last of Us (PS3)
Naughty Dog #2 - ? (PS4)

Bend Studio - ? (PS4/Vita)

San Diego Studio #1 - MLB 14: The Show (PS3/PS4?)
San Diego Studio #2 - rumoured unannounced title (PS4?)

Santa Monica Studio #1 - ? (PS4, just released GoW)
Santa Monica Studio #2 - The Order: 1886 (PS4)
Santa Monica Studio #3 - Stig's new IP (PS4)

Sucker Punch Productions - Infamous: Second Son (PS4)

Evolution Studios - DriveClub (PS4)

Guerrilla Games #1 - Killzone Mercenary (Vita)
Guerrilla Games #2 - Killzone SF (PS4)

Media Molecule #1 - Tearaway (Vita)
Media Molecule #2 - TBA (PS4)

London Studio #1 - ? (PS4/Vita?)
London Studio #2 - ? (PS4/Vita?)

Sony Online Entertainment #1 - brings DC Universe to PS4
Sony Online Entertainment #2 - brings PlanetSide 2 to PS4
Sony Online Entertainment #3 - rumoured title (PC/PS4?)

Ready at Dawn - The Order: 1886 (PS4)

Supermassive Games #1 - Until Dawn (PS3/PS4?)
Supermassive Games #2 - Transitor (PS4 console debut)

Quantic Dream #1 - Beyond: Two Souls (PS3)
Quantic Dream #2 - new IP (PS4)


Unconfirmed stuff/Rumours:

-Final Fantasy XV (PS4/?)
-Kingdom Hearts 3 (PS4/?)
-Agent (PS4?)
-The Last Guardian (PS4?)
-Gran Turismo 6 (PS4?)

They still have a lot to show at TGS and Gamescon they said that before the press conference earlier this week....

Not all of the 15 were shown as not all of it was first party, only the first party Microsoft stuff were part of the 15.

Titanfall and Dead Rising isn't part of the 15 for example.

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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by pUsHa on Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:43 am

They still have a lot to show at TGS and Gamescon they said that before the press conference earlier this week....

Not all of the 15 were shown as not all of it was first party, only the first party Microsoft stuff were part of the 15.

Titanfall and Dead Rising isn't part of the 15 for example.

Alright ... I guess we're going to see more new games from both at TGS and GC
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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:46 am

Yeah its all part of the release plan for both of them....

They were never going to blow their load when there is two big events to come before release.

I expect Sony to go HAM at TGS though seeing as that market is where they dominate Microsoft especially.


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Post by la bestia negra on Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:50 am

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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:55 am

Phil Spencer ‏@XboxP3 5 Jun
@HugodrAndrade E3 show is all games but we'll still have more exclusives to announce post E3. I expect GamesCom to be a good event.

Found the tweet Very Happy

Didn't mention TGS though, i know they are shit in Japan but in last couple of years they have added Microsoft studios in Japan so i'd be surprised if they didn't have something there.

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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by Onyx on Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:14 am

PS4's cheaper plus you could trade in PS3/other consoles towards it and get it even more cheaper.

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Post by Firenze on Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:15 am

not sure they will, I think they may have given up on Japan now

The Wall Street Journal reports that Microsoft is delaying its Xbox One launch in Asia until late 2014, a full year after the console debuts in the US.

Alan Bowman, Microsoft’s regional vice president for sales and marketing in Asia, says the move is part of a "staged approach" for the Xbox One, noting the company is planning to offer localised content once the console is available. The WSJ claims Microsoft is only planning to offer the Xbox One in select Asian markets, including Hong Kong, Singapore, South Korea, and India. Notably, Japan is missing from that list, a market that the Xbox 360 has struggled in traditionally

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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:25 am

hmm

Surprising as they are apparently investing heavily in Microsoft Osaka ( one of studios i mentioned)


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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by Arquitescu on Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:29 am

@RedOranje wrote:Cruyff-ism? Nah, Sony exploited ruthless counter-attacking tactics against Microsoft. They struggle to impose their play early on with the initial conference about the PS4 and were roundly on the back foot. However, they held out and took the pressure without ever breaking, then when Microsoft got caught upfield, disorganizing themselves in their attempt to exploit the apparent weakness of Sony, who then proceeded to tear them apart a'la Netherlands in the Euro08 group stages against Italy and France.

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I am aware of the Clockwork joke going on here, but felt the need to remind Arq of the Euro08 group stages anyway. Razz

Haha! Very Happy

As cheap of a shot that was I must admit this was quite clever Very Happy

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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by FalcaoPunch on Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:48 am

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:hmm

Surprising as they are apparently investing heavily in Microsoft Osaka ( one of studios i mentioned)


The Xbox is strong is this one.

First the reveal wasn't enough, then e3 wasn't enough, now we have to wait for Gamescon rofl


Regardless the general consensus everywhere is that Sony won
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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:04 am

What you on about? i only care about games and Sony showed hardly anything.

Sony won because of non-gaming reasons( isn't that ironic) not their actual line up.

We don't have to wait for anything but fact is Microsoft showed games and lots of them and Sony hardly showed anything of interest outside of Killzone and Infamous which we had already seen.


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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by FalcaoPunch on Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:23 am

Are you referring to exclusives? Because exclusives will always be there for either console.

Microsoft promised games (15 exclusives) and I'm sure you are as excited as I am for project spark... but how many of those exclusives seem even note worthy? Sunset Overdrive or w/e looked intriguing...but then again so did "The Order"


The games are just a plus, I mainly wanted to see a console and know a price, as well as see Sony shoot down any unfavorable rumors. We got all that.
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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:31 am

They showed off Crimson Dragon, D4, Dead Rising 3, Forza Motorsport 5, Killer Instinct, Ryse Son of Rome, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, Titanfall, Halo and Project Spark.

There was more too but i can't remember the names.

Around half of them interest me and the games and features is all i care about.

I said before E3 that the always online and used game stuff don't bother me because it doesn't effect me.

All i care about is the games and as of right now Microsoft have showed more games that interest me.

Sorry for being one of the few who cares more about the games than the policies and price of the console as by the time i buy one i expect both consoles to be cheaper than they are today anyway.

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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by Kaladin on Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:34 am

Seriously, the new MGS looks so amazing. Are they showcasing a playable demo at the E3 floor?

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Re: Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 - Part 2

Post by RED on Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:51 am

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:What you on about? i only care about games and Sony showed hardly anything.

Sony won because of non-gaming reasons( isn't that ironic) not their actual line up.

We don't have to wait for anything but fact is Microsoft showed games and lots of them and Sony hardly showed anything of interest outside of Killzone and Infamous which we had already seen.


Expect more titles from Sony in the upcoming years.

I will say that the Sony conference was underwhelming compared to Microsoft's, but that was largely due to Sony revealing a lot of their exclusives back at the reveal conference.

Microsoft had nothing but games to show, and that worked great for them. They have some good games coming up like Dead Rising 3 and Titanfall.

Sony won the E3 and then entire next gen with 3 blows: 1) No DRM support. 2) No required online connectivity 3)Price of the console. All with the added bonus of having the superior hardware.

Plus that PS4 console looks sleek as hell. ooh!

First day purchase for me.

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