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Post by FalcaoPunch Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:04 am

I wonder why Casemiro gets no minutes.

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Post by Mamad Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:57 pm

How is our savior doing? Laughing 
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Post by FalcaoPunch Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:00 pm

Ozil replacement rofl
And Ancelotti won't even play him in such an important game
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Post by VanDeezNuts Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:37 pm

i doubt isco would have played regardless but carlo said in a post match interview that isco wasnt full fitness.

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Post by Valkyrja Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:57 pm

Where are the ones who said Modric pulled Ozil out in big games ?
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Post by Le Samourai Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:44 am

I think Isco over Di Maria would have changed the game in the first half. I was actually looking forward to seeing him play this game since Barca as a team devote so much to getting the ball back early that I actually think he's one going to be one of our better performers against them in the future.

It's much easier to play against them when you're able to ride those initial challenges. I'm not sure they actually know how to defend after that.

In this game specifically, you saw a disconnect between attack and midfield. Khedira being where he is on the pitch is problematic within itself, but under normal circumstances he'd have another viable forward passing option. I thought Carlo would have positioned Di Maria on the left just to make sure Modric involved him and to make sure he had space to run into - but he didn't. Isco would have been perfect for that role just alongside Modric, he would have gotten through the midfield and open up things for Bale and Ronaldo.
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Post by Nedved Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:40 am

Isco seems to be a forgotten man.
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Post by Cyborg Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:07 pm

Nedved wrote:Isco seems to be a forgotten man.
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Post by Nedved Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:22 pm

I wouldn't go that far.

Isco is a great player, but if he doesn't play enough this year. He will perhaps leave to City and We may get Aguero in return. Not a bad deal. Again assuming Ancelloti is not sacked by then Razz 
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Post by Onyx Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:23 pm

Long term I can see Isco taking Khedira's spot and Alonso being replaced by a pure DM.

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Post by Nedved Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:35 pm

Illara will replace Alonso, but I can't see Isco playing as a box-box MF role as Khedira. Isco is an AM. If he doesn't get to play at Madrid. He will play in England. Too good a player to get wasted.
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Post by Onyx Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:45 pm

If he's an AM then I'm not sure why we sold Ozil. Bale, Ozil, Ronaldo could have played in a 4-2-3-1.

Isco has been playing as a LCM/LAM.

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Post by FalcaoPunch Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:20 am

^^ which is how Isco plays when he's on the pitch anyway. Not necessarily that "creator" we made him out to be.


He will stay and get time to really shine. We can't really determine his after not even half a season with us.
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Post by Valkyrja Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:28 pm

So we spent 40m on Illarra to keep him on bench ? It's clear that Carlo is trying to intergrate Illarra, to take the spot from Alonso in the future. Isco will get Modric's place and hopefully Casemiro Khedira's.
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Post by Onyx Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:49 pm

The club wanted an 'Alonso' future replacement without even knowing what formation we would play. Ideally we would have bought a pure DM instead of Illarramendi.

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Post by VanDeezNuts Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:16 pm

isco has yet to play like a CM for us. replace khedira? there couldnt be a more dissimilar comparison.

so far isco has played like how modric played last year, as an AM who does work back defensively but isnt effective defensively.

until isco can add more to his game theres no way i'd consider him a CM, and i think carlo thinks the same way.

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Post by chad4401 Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:58 pm

Bias for Isco is so funny to me, everyone trying to be patient and reasonable Laughing, anyway its obvious he is still stuck in his own little world and instead of adapting to his new role, he just dribbles until he loses it over and over, all he has to do is pass the ball more and dribble when necessary, a player of his intelligence and talent shouldn't find this concept so hard being spanish.
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Post by titosantill Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:43 pm

the bias is because he is new, and wasn't too expensive....other players who have been given a hard time are people who have been in the club about 4 or 5 years now and we are still waiting for that consistency to kick in....(consistency does not mean scoring in your last 2 games or assisting in your last two by the way)....it has to be significant level of consistency. especially as some of these so called players have people in high places within the club that continue to favor them or show them more support than they do other players for instance....i won't mention who, but i'm sure fans can guess who i'm talking about

chad4401 wrote:Bias for Isco is so funny to me, everyone trying to be patient and reasonable Laughing, anyway its obvious he is still stuck in his own little world and instead of adapting to his new role, he just dribbles until he loses it over and over, all he has to do is pass the ball more and dribble when necessary, a player of his intelligence and talent shouldn't find this concept so hard being spanish.
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Post by LeBéninois Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:25 am

My only question is : What did you guys expect. Isco is exactly playing like at Malaga ...
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Post by Doc Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:57 am

Carlo most likely wants Isco to be playing at a level that is suitable to the tactics he has and at the moment, he isn't.
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Post by Nedved Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:55 am

At this point, I think even Ancelloti is not sure what he wants and worse from whom. Smile
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Post by Cyborg Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:41 pm

isco =frustrating

he needs to learn when to dribble and when to pass. hopefully he matures and learn fast
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Post by Valkyrja Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:26 pm

how do you rate his performance from the 1st half of the season ? for me, personally, he was pathetic apart from his first matches
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Post by the xcx Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:10 pm

Knew all along he was up to no good. Modric is doing his job atm.
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Post by Onyx Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:17 pm

He was impressive in the first few matches, after that he's done adequately. There's things he's done well and things he needs to improve on. For example he needs to dribble a little less at times.

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Post by FalcaoPunch Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:04 am

Yohan Modric wrote:He was impressive in the first few matches, after that he's done adequately. There's things he's done well and things he needs to improve on. For example he needs to dribble a little less at times.

He's a great dribbler and has an eye for goal. Which is somrhing we would ask of Ozil from time to time.

Ozil would always look to play the final ball. Isco doesn't and with a forward line consisting of Bale and Ronaldo, that should be the number 1 priority for Isco.

He tends to over dribble and ends up losing possession. He has great workrate and over time will indeed improve. But I haven't been "impressed".
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