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Re: Isco
I wonder why Casemiro gets no minutes.
FalcaoPunch- First Team
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Re: Isco
Ozil replacement
And Ancelotti won't even play him in such an important game
And Ancelotti won't even play him in such an important game
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Re: Isco
i doubt isco would have played regardless but carlo said in a post match interview that isco wasnt full fitness.
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Re: Isco
Where are the ones who said Modric pulled Ozil out in big games ?
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I think Isco over Di Maria would have changed the game in the first half. I was actually looking forward to seeing him play this game since Barca as a team devote so much to getting the ball back early that I actually think he's one going to be one of our better performers against them in the future.
It's much easier to play against them when you're able to ride those initial challenges. I'm not sure they actually know how to defend after that.
In this game specifically, you saw a disconnect between attack and midfield. Khedira being where he is on the pitch is problematic within itself, but under normal circumstances he'd have another viable forward passing option. I thought Carlo would have positioned Di Maria on the left just to make sure Modric involved him and to make sure he had space to run into - but he didn't. Isco would have been perfect for that role just alongside Modric, he would have gotten through the midfield and open up things for Bale and Ronaldo.
It's much easier to play against them when you're able to ride those initial challenges. I'm not sure they actually know how to defend after that.
In this game specifically, you saw a disconnect between attack and midfield. Khedira being where he is on the pitch is problematic within itself, but under normal circumstances he'd have another viable forward passing option. I thought Carlo would have positioned Di Maria on the left just to make sure Modric involved him and to make sure he had space to run into - but he didn't. Isco would have been perfect for that role just alongside Modric, he would have gotten through the midfield and open up things for Bale and Ronaldo.
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Re: Isco
Isco seems to be a forgotten man.
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sergio canalesNedved wrote:Isco seems to be a forgotten man.
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I wouldn't go that far.
Isco is a great player, but if he doesn't play enough this year. He will perhaps leave to City and We may get Aguero in return. Not a bad deal. Again assuming Ancelloti is not sacked by then
Isco is a great player, but if he doesn't play enough this year. He will perhaps leave to City and We may get Aguero in return. Not a bad deal. Again assuming Ancelloti is not sacked by then
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Re: Isco
Long term I can see Isco taking Khedira's spot and Alonso being replaced by a pure DM.
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Illara will replace Alonso, but I can't see Isco playing as a box-box MF role as Khedira. Isco is an AM. If he doesn't get to play at Madrid. He will play in England. Too good a player to get wasted.
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Re: Isco
If he's an AM then I'm not sure why we sold Ozil. Bale, Ozil, Ronaldo could have played in a 4-2-3-1.
Isco has been playing as a LCM/LAM.
Isco has been playing as a LCM/LAM.
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Re: Isco
^^ which is how Isco plays when he's on the pitch anyway. Not necessarily that "creator" we made him out to be.
He will stay and get time to really shine. We can't really determine his after not even half a season with us.
He will stay and get time to really shine. We can't really determine his after not even half a season with us.
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So we spent 40m on Illarra to keep him on bench ? It's clear that Carlo is trying to intergrate Illarra, to take the spot from Alonso in the future. Isco will get Modric's place and hopefully Casemiro Khedira's.
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The club wanted an 'Alonso' future replacement without even knowing what formation we would play. Ideally we would have bought a pure DM instead of Illarramendi.
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Re: Isco
isco has yet to play like a CM for us. replace khedira? there couldnt be a more dissimilar comparison.
so far isco has played like how modric played last year, as an AM who does work back defensively but isnt effective defensively.
until isco can add more to his game theres no way i'd consider him a CM, and i think carlo thinks the same way.
so far isco has played like how modric played last year, as an AM who does work back defensively but isnt effective defensively.
until isco can add more to his game theres no way i'd consider him a CM, and i think carlo thinks the same way.
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Bias for Isco is so funny to me, everyone trying to be patient and reasonable , anyway its obvious he is still stuck in his own little world and instead of adapting to his new role, he just dribbles until he loses it over and over, all he has to do is pass the ball more and dribble when necessary, a player of his intelligence and talent shouldn't find this concept so hard being spanish.
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the bias is because he is new, and wasn't too expensive....other players who have been given a hard time are people who have been in the club about 4 or 5 years now and we are still waiting for that consistency to kick in....(consistency does not mean scoring in your last 2 games or assisting in your last two by the way)....it has to be significant level of consistency. especially as some of these so called players have people in high places within the club that continue to favor them or show them more support than they do other players for instance....i won't mention who, but i'm sure fans can guess who i'm talking about
chad4401 wrote:Bias for Isco is so funny to me, everyone trying to be patient and reasonable , anyway its obvious he is still stuck in his own little world and instead of adapting to his new role, he just dribbles until he loses it over and over, all he has to do is pass the ball more and dribble when necessary, a player of his intelligence and talent shouldn't find this concept so hard being spanish.
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Re: Isco
My only question is : What did you guys expect. Isco is exactly playing like at Malaga ...
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Re: Isco
Carlo most likely wants Isco to be playing at a level that is suitable to the tactics he has and at the moment, he isn't.
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Re: Isco
At this point, I think even Ancelloti is not sure what he wants and worse from whom.
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Re: Isco
isco =frustrating
he needs to learn when to dribble and when to pass. hopefully he matures and learn fast
he needs to learn when to dribble and when to pass. hopefully he matures and learn fast
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Re: Isco
how do you rate his performance from the 1st half of the season ? for me, personally, he was pathetic apart from his first matches
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Re: Isco
Knew all along he was up to no good. Modric is doing his job atm.
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Re: Isco
He was impressive in the first few matches, after that he's done adequately. There's things he's done well and things he needs to improve on. For example he needs to dribble a little less at times.
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Re: Isco
Yohan Modric wrote:He was impressive in the first few matches, after that he's done adequately. There's things he's done well and things he needs to improve on. For example he needs to dribble a little less at times.
He's a great dribbler and has an eye for goal. Which is somrhing we would ask of Ozil from time to time.
Ozil would always look to play the final ball. Isco doesn't and with a forward line consisting of Bale and Ronaldo, that should be the number 1 priority for Isco.
He tends to over dribble and ends up losing possession. He has great workrate and over time will indeed improve. But I haven't been "impressed".
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