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Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

Post by Onyx on Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:53 pm

Ancelotti:

"I'm very happy with the squad. We don't need any more players."

"The important thing is to create a style of play that is comfortable for my players.

"Our objective is not only to win but to also play beautiful attacking football."

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Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

Post by halamadrid2 on Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:06 pm

@Nirgall wrote:
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@Nirgall wrote:As to why Ramos, Carvajal and Isco are safe, please refer to my topic "special treatment to national players in their leagues". Another reason why I want di maria to leave madrid.
Its a combination of nobody being able to replace them and them actually being great that has made them indispensable. Again DiMaria will get alot of time. Even I a dimaria fan isn't even worried about his playing time because I know he will start alot of games and if he isnt will be the first one subbed in. Carlo likes him alot
come on, are we suppose to believen that Ramos, who only a couple of seasons ago, was widely criticized for frequently loosing positions is now irreplaceable. Let's remember that Pepe wasn't doing badly before Ramos was decide to be too unreliable of a Fullback, and Varane is quite solid.

Carvajal and Isco have done good pre seasons. That is all. is that enough to secure a place in Real madrid eleven above all competion? That's up to having the correct passport.

Ronaldo, i'm not gonna argue. He is earned it. The only one.
Times change. Ramos is the leader in our defence, nothing to do with nationality. his direct replacement is not Pepe or Varane but Nacho. Varane is injured and won't come back for a long time so he will have to win his place back if Pepe does well much similar to the Lopez/Iker conundrum

Carvajal has no competition. His only competition is Arbeloa another spaniard who can't defend to save his life. Isco runs the show for us. There are no direct replacements for him although DiMaria can come on to a slightly changed formation like he has done on occasions in preseason
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Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

Post by Nirgall on Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:15 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:
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@halamadrid2 wrote:Its a combination of nobody being able to replace them and them actually being great that has made them indispensable. Again DiMaria will get alot of time. Even I a dimaria fan isn't even worried about his playing time because I know he will start alot of games and if he isnt will be the first one subbed in. Carlo likes him alot
come on, are we suppose to believen that Ramos, who only a couple of seasons ago, was widely criticized for frequently loosing positions is now irreplaceable. Let's remember that Pepe wasn't doing badly before Ramos was decide to be too unreliable of a Fullback, and Varane is quite solid.

Carvajal and Isco have done good pre seasons. That is all. is that enough to secure a place in Real madrid eleven above all competion? That's up to having the correct passport.

Ronaldo, i'm not gonna argue. He is earned it. The only one.
Times change. Ramos is the leader in our defence, nothing to do with nationality. his direct replacement is not Pepe or Varane but Nacho. Varane is injured and won't come back for a long time so he will have to win his place back if Pepe does well much similar to the Lopez/Iker conundrum

Carvajal has no competition. His only competition is Arbeloa another spaniard who can't defend to save his life. Isco runs the show for us. There are no direct replacements for him although DiMaria can come on to a slightly changed formation like he has done on occasions in preseason
if a hot headed, tactically loose defender becomes the "leader" of the defence of the team with the most money in the world, it's either because too many people made wrong choices or some other characteristics besides football quality got in to the mix.

Have you ever considered why Carvajal has no competition? or Ramos before him when he was playing that position? or Casillas before his quarrel with Mourinho? Do you think it is because Real madrid can't afford it?

And Isco Already runs the show because of a couple of pre season matches? Really? Is he the first player to have dazzled with a couple of high level performances at irrelevant matches? Did sneijder never happened? Have di Maria and ozil not dazzled more than a couple of times? has any of them been assured a place for what is clearly not yet a long time of consistent assured performances? What do you think is the difference between them?
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Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

Post by danyjr on Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:17 pm

Actually Carvajal has competition from Arbeloa. The latter is a much smarter defender. :coffee: 

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Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

Post by Nirgall on Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:21 pm

@danyjr wrote:Actually Carvajal has competition from Arbeloa. The latter is a much smarter defender. :coffee: 
Both are far from world class. No effort was made to secure a world class right full back.
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Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

Post by halamadrid2 on Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:24 pm

there is no point wasting money on unnecessary signings. We won the league with this so called hot dude running our defence. Carvajal is an academy player again nothing to do with nationality. We have one of the best academies in Europe but have been criticised for not promoting many to the first team

Arbeloa is an academy player as well and a decent experienced back up. Both Lopez and Iker again are from our academy. In fact I applaud our change of direction. Marcelo is another one regarded as indispensable to us even when we had Coentrao another great defender we now have to sell because we wasted money buying a back up player we could have picked up cheap from one of the spanish teams or from our reserve

We are yet to see how Isco will play but he fits Carlos posession ideas perfectly. him and modric will be instrumental to us keeping posession. Also you seem to forget Isco already did well before he came to us so its not like we have only seen him in preseason
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Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

Post by Onyx on Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:28 pm

Di Maria is no longer good enough, Isco is pretty much replacing him.

A RB was needed so Carvajal was bought. He was apparently the best RB in Bundesliga last season and was rated the highest on whoscored. There aren't many WC RB's out there anyway. Having Carvajal makes sense.

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Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

Post by halamadrid2 on Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:29 pm

@danyjr wrote:Actually Carvajal has competition from Arbeloa. The latter is a much smarter defender. :coffee: 
dont know whether to laugh or cry

also nirgall. Carvajal was named in the top two RBs in Bundesliga while he played there. I think we will be comfortable with him thank you very much

Also Iker has been voted the best keeper in the world for years and years. lol at the nationality bias on this part. Maybe bias within our club against another Spaniard who has done well in his abscence but not more
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Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

Post by halamadrid2 on Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:31 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Di Maria is no longer good enough, Isco is pretty much replacing him.

A RB was needed so Carvajal was bought. He was apparently the best RB in Bundesliga last season and was rated the highest on whoscored. There aren't many WC RB's out there anyway. Having Carvajal makes sense.
Isco didn't replace anyone really. We are playing with a LAM who drops back and helps out in the middle. DiMaria is too direct to do that. We will have to change the way we play if DiMaria plays there (like we have seen on occasions)


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Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

Post by danyjr on Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:31 pm

The WC winning Spanish right back is no competition for a 21-year-old who's just come back from Bundesliga...gg brah

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Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

Post by halamadrid2 on Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:37 pm

@danyjr wrote:The WC winning Spanish right back is no competition for a 21-year-old who's just come back from Bundesliga...gg brah
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Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

Post by Onyx on Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:37 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:Di Maria is no longer good enough, Isco is pretty much replacing him.

A RB was needed so Carvajal was bought. He was apparently the best RB in Bundesliga last season and was rated the highest on whoscored. There aren't many WC RB's out there anyway. Having Carvajal makes sense.
Isco didn't replace anyone really. We are playing with a LAM who drops back and helps out in the middle. DiMaria is too direct to do that. We will have to change the way we play if DiMaria plays there (like we have seen on occasions)
Well he's taking his starting spot though.

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Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

Post by halamadrid2 on Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:39 pm

again not playing the same way/position

Ozil is the one who has benched him. I do see where you are coming from tho.
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Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

Post by Helmer on Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:54 pm

btw, is bale injury real OR he doesnt wanna play for them?

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Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

Post by Adit on Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:21 pm

Watching spurs atm and they horribly lack creative players.

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Post by Motogp69 on Sun Aug 18, 2013 3:24 pm

@Adit wrote:Watching spurs atm and they horribly lack creative players.
Things opened up once Chadli stopped cutting into the middle of the pitch. I like the way the team looks, but it'll still be a few games before the chemistry is there. Should of won by more except for some poorly placed finishes. Oh well, 3 points, and not in the relegation zone.

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Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

Post by CBarca on Sun Aug 18, 2013 3:34 pm

Definitely in need of some creative influence. Siggy wasn't good enough, and Dembele needs more freedom to push forward. Team definitely looks like they're still gelling.

Though aside from the penalty, two clear cut chances were created that should have been put away. A 3-0 result and it's hard to say they didn't create anything but since Defoe and Siggy didn't put them away, it doesn't look as good. Some other half chances were created in addition to that, and Lennon made a couple bad decisions that could have led to goals.

It will get better as the season goes on.

I'm resigned to losing Bale though. I'm not sure whether he's really injured at his point or not, but it seems he's on the way out. AVB said "the player doesn't speak".

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Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

Post by Donuts on Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:38 pm

I expect to see an improved bid from Perez after today what seems a draw performance.

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Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

Post by Motogp69 on Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:47 pm

It's all happening according to plan (laughs maniacally) :coffee: 

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Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

Post by Crimson on Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:23 pm

And people still advocate for Benzema over Bale O.o lmfao
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:28 pm

@Crimson wrote:And people still advocate for Benzema over Bale O.o lmfao
Would have dropped points without Benzema's equaliser :coffee:

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Post by vanDEEZ on Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:44 pm

not saying bale is the finisher madrid need but the game would have been put away by half had those multiple sitters and offsides been scored by benz
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Post by B-Mac on Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:05 pm

lol Ronaldo doesn't celebrate Benzema goal, 10 mins later on twitter "RONALDO TO HAND IN TRANSFER REQUEST"


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Post by urbaNRoots on Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:10 pm

Tottenham closing on Willian. Bale transfer saga almost over.

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Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

Post by chad4401 on Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:11 pm

lmao typical madrid fans when they know a new toy is on the way, everything the old ones does is gonna be scrutinized like crazy Laughing, relax cr did fck all today too should we sell him Laughing

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Re: Gareth Bale transfer saga

Post by chad4401 on Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:28 pm

@vanDEEZ wrote:not saying bale is the finisher madrid need but the game would have been put away by half had those multiple sitters and offsides been scored by benz
smh how do you know these things as fact, this reminds me of how everyone goes on and on about higuain runs and how clinical he was with us and then pretend he didn't miss 1v1 against every decent team he played against Laughing

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