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Re: Ander Herrera

Post by RED on Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:28 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:He's flopping hard, that's what I have understood through repeated and close viewing.


Every player under that lame duck of a manager has looked awful.

He's talented, but he's had his confidence ripped apart by that clown in the dug out.

You'll see just what a good player he is once we get rid of LVG, of that I am certain.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:29 pm

He'd be great for Klopp, for example hmm

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Re: Ander Herrera

Post by Arquitescu on Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:43 pm

Thank you, RED.

I for one would not see Ander perform so well within Klopp as Ander at his best works in a possession based system in which he sees a lot of the ball as many managers seem to mistake that his incredible work rate can be translated into good defence, and even though a United poster in the United section posted stats for me as to how he HAS improved in defence, his work rate if anything has him overused and takes away from his joy of playing with the ball.

LvG's mind is like a chasm of broken lights and sound, you never know whether he is absolute genius or just trial and error. Under Mourinho I fear the same for Ander as there is little in Ander bar his work rate that Mourinho will use but then again we all have been wrong with managers in their new teams (like when people predicted some deductions for Pep before Bayern) so it has yet to be seen.

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Re: Ander Herrera

Post by Glory on Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:37 pm




How this guy is not getting the more credit for his work? I know stats wont give the full picture and mind ya I am not saying he is better than Kante or anything (despite the fact that he is having  better stats than him in almost every dept Proud ) Its sad to see him being so underappreciated and underrated  by neutrals when  fake players like Eric Dier and __________ (feel free to fill) getting all the love.
And its not just neutrals. Even some United fans consider him not upto the needed level despite him being our best player this season along with Zlatan and Valencia and are calling out for an upgrade next summer :facepalm: .    
Easily one of the most complete midfielders in the league.
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Re: Ander Herrera

Post by ES on Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:51 pm

The shiniest turd out of them all, except Kante who doesn't even play the same role as him
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Post by Firenze on Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:01 pm

top 5 in the world

the only problem is when he has a stinker and he has them every now and then he is truly awful
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Post by Valkyrja on Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:04 pm

One of my favorite players in PL. He plays his heart out every game.

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Post by Curtinho on Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:08 pm

He's very good. As mentioned stats don't always tell the whole picture (especially per 90 which can be skewed by coming on against tired opponents, only playing when fresh, if the player is not prone to playing the full 90 all the time) but he's definitely a very good player and I was always happy he wasn't a first choice player but I guess that's changed now.

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Re: Ander Herrera

Post by Glory on Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:09 pm

ES wrote:The shiniest turd out of them all, except Kante who doesn't even play the same role as him


When Carrick plays(which is half of the total games Herrera has played approximately) both Kante and Ander plays the same role for Chelsea and United respectively. In a double pivot yea he fulfills more of the Matic role.  

But even then I dont think that belittles  Herreras quality this season. When called to attack in a slightly forward role he has repaid the faith (for a player who is accused of being passive and sideways by many that key pass and chance created is surprisingly heartening ) and when called to be defensive in a double pivot with Pog he has simply been a beast.

And if you are saying I am comparing him with shit players, do know I have put players like Wanyama and Gueye as well in the comparison matrix thingy and none of them managed to outscore Ander.
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Post by Glory on Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:18 pm

Curtinho wrote:He's very good. As mentioned stats don't always tell the whole picture (especially per 90 which can be skewed by coming on against tired opponents, only playing when fresh, if the player is not prone to playing the full 90 all the time) but he's definitely a very good player and I was always happy he wasn't a first choice player but I guess that's changed now.


Only twice has that happened in the 22 games he has played this season.
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Post by Curtinho on Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:22 pm

I was offering a possibility of why per 90 can be deceiving (and other examples) not just for Herrera, but in general.

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Re: Ander Herrera

Post by Glory on Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:23 pm

Deserves more than anyone to be our next captain. But knowing Mourinho he will probably make Zlatan for a couple of years and then Pogba when Z leaves. Rolling Eyes Sad
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Post by Glory on Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:24 pm

Curtinho wrote:I was offering a possibility of why per 90 can be deceiving (and other examples) not just for Herrera, but in general.


Oh okay.
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Post by Glory on Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:35 pm



@ES and btw everyones favorite Kante was nowhere to be seen today. :coffee:
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Re: Ander Herrera

Post by Glory on Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:37 pm

Also, :coffee:
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Re: Ander Herrera

Post by Glory on Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:41 am

http://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/20170418/421787364864/ander-herrera-hazard-manchester-united-marcaje-chelsea-mourinho-barca-bielsa-valverde-van-gaal-zaragoza-atheltic.html

The 'new' Ander Herrera astonishes Europe

Finally, the world is starting to take notice. Proud
Long overdue.. If this guy played for one of the 'big' teams, he would already be a star.
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