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Re: Diego Costa

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:26 pm

If you want to use the system excuse then "the system" is arguably the reason he's going to Chelsea in the first place Laughing

It works both ways, you can't blame the system for his failure to perform and then ignore that the system was the reason he got success at Atleti in the first place.

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Re: Diego Costa

Post by sportsczy on Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:30 pm

All that's been proven is that Costa is not a truly talented player....  but one that can do very well in specific circumstances.  Nobody is going to dream about becoming the next Costa Laughing

It's very dangerous to buy this type of player... because his success may not only depend on a certain style, but also on his synergy with his teammates, the league, the style of the opponent, etc.  

He's not going to bully players who are just as tough as he is... this WC proved it.
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Re: Diego Costa

Post by guest7 on Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:46 pm

people are ignoring how similair atleti and chelsea play

both are heavy defensive teams that rely on counters... costa is effective in counters, less effective when the ball is played to his feet.

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Re: Diego Costa

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:53 pm

Se7en wrote:people are ignoring how similair atleti and chelsea play

both are heavy defensive teams that rely on counters... costa is effective in counters, less effective when the ball is played to his feet.


No one is ignoring it tbf, in fact i'm sure most expect him to have more success for Chelsea than ever will for Spain.

With that said there's one common difference between Atleti and Chelsea....

Chelsea use the striker as a springboard to put the midfielders in position to score, Atleti use the striker as the bloke at the end of attacks.

Its a lot easier to score for Simeone than it is for Mourinho if you're a striker, i'm personally expecting Fabregas to score more than Costa but Costa to have more assists than he did at Atleti.

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Re: Diego Costa

Post by Ganso on Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:56 pm

Atleti play more offensive football than Chelsea imo.At least Atleti had their FBs constantly attacking, at Chelsea they have Ivanovic and Azpilicueta at LB Laughing

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Re: Diego Costa

Post by Adit on Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:00 pm

Speaking of Apziculeta dont even think he has better ball technique than Arbeloa.

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Re: Diego Costa

Post by Natalie Portman on Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:14 pm

RedAlert in supporting the Chelsea player shocker rofl


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Re: Diego Costa

Post by Natalie Portman on Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:16 pm

@Adit wrote:Speaking of Apziculeta dont even think he has better ball technique than Arbeloa.


Exactly Adit

I got lambasted for saying you can't judge Chelsea's defenders individually because all 4 of them are protected by 2 DMs all the time.

It's so much easier to stand out as a defender in Chelsea's system, as opposed to let's say Liverpool's.

Azplicueta has been exposed for the fraud that he is. The same way Terry was exposed when AVB tried to play a modern forward-thinking formation.

Titus Bramble would look like prime Nesta playing deep into the box, protected by 4 bulldog midfielders.

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Re: Diego Costa

Post by Abramovich on Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:57 pm

Lol Azpil is class noone can deny this, Arq can argue this one.

On topic, please gimme Mario Mandu instead Sad.
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Re: Diego Costa

Post by chad4401 on Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:32 pm

Azpli is no better than arbeloa, the way you guys hype your players Laughing

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Re: Diego Costa

Post by Yeezus on Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:01 am

He sucked.

Gil told me he'd smash Chile's backline.

Did fk all.

You ain't got the answers.

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Re: Diego Costa

Post by guest_07 on Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:08 am

@Gil wrote:Judge a striker on 4 games brahs. Concede 7 goals in 2 games. Blame the striker.


above was the same person who label riquelme an overrated player by showed only 1 video consist of 1 penalty kick miss to prove his stand
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Re: Diego Costa

Post by Red Alert on Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:29 am

@Natalie Portman wrote:RedAlert in supporting the Chelsea player shocker rofl


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Sepi continue to be deluded in his own world that logic goes out the window shocker :d
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Re: Diego Costa

Post by Red Alert on Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:37 am

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Se7en wrote:people are ignoring how similair atleti and chelsea play

both are heavy defensive teams that rely on counters... costa is effective in counters, less effective when the ball is played to his feet.


No one is ignoring it tbf, in fact i'm sure most expect him to have more success for Chelsea than ever will for Spain.

With that said there's one common difference between Atleti and Chelsea....

Chelsea use the striker as a springboard to put the midfielders in position to score, Atleti use the striker as the bloke at the end of attacks.

Its a lot easier to score for Simeone than it is for Mourinho if you're a striker, i'm personally expecting Fabregas to score more than Costa but Costa to have more assists than he did at Atleti.

What are you on about?

Chelsea used their striker as a decoy last season because their biggest threats came from the players out wide. They had two players that were clearly past their best. That'll change now with their recent purchases.

They've brought in Cesc and Costa now, both massive goalthreats and something they missed last season. (They only really had Hazard as a goalthreat.)

Every player will have a responsibility to go forward and score, Diego Costa no different. If anything, he's probably the main man in blue next season. (It's either him or Eden)

This world cup is irrelevant to what Costa will do for Chelsea; again, Spain and Chelsea set up in different ways. And everything about Chelsea suits him more than it does for the Spanish NT.

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Re: Diego Costa

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:29 pm

Mourinho has always used the striker has a decoy.

Did you not watch Drogba under Mourinho was used as a springboard for the likes of Duff, Cole, Robben and Lampard to get into goalscoring positions

Drogba didn't start scoring goals with regularity till Mourinho left.... the only striker who really scored with regularity under Mourinho and wasn't used as a springboard was Diego Milito.

Even Benzema was a decoy for Ronaldo and those around him.... its how he uses his forwards and the same will happen again its not anything new.

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Re: Diego Costa

Post by ES on Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:37 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Mourinho has always used the striker has a decoy.

Did you not watch Drogba under Mourinho was used as a springboard for the likes of Duff, Cole, Robben and Lampard to get into goalscoring positions

Drogba didn't start scoring goals with regularity till Mourinho left.... the only striker who really scored with regularity under Mourinho and wasn't used as a springboard was Diego Milito.

Even Benzema was a decoy for Ronaldo and those around him.... its how he uses his forwards and the same will happen again its not anything new.


I agree with this, very well brought up points.

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Re: Diego Costa

Post by Blue Barrett on Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:21 am

Lol spring board Laughing as if we should have run our attack primarily through Torres and Eto'o. And I also like how most people in this thread seem to think we'll be playing the exact same way next season. Ignorance is bliss.

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Re: Diego Costa

Post by boyzis on Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:25 am

Costa as a spring board lol with a x . Spain 2014.
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Re: Diego Costa

Post by VendettaRed07 on Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:48 am

@Blue Barrett wrote:Lol spring board Laughing as if we should have run our attack primarily through Torres and Eto'o. And I also like how most people in this thread seem to think we'll be playing the exact same way next season. Ignorance is bliss.
Mole never suggested that you should have. He was addressing Mou's career in how he uses strikers is probably indicative of how Costa will be used next year, not strictly speaking about Chelsea last season. If costa comes in and scores like 14 league goals, but Hazard Fabergas and others benefit from his presence and you win more games then who really cares.

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Re: Diego Costa

Post by Blue Barrett on Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:06 am

Yes, I get that, but what he fails to realize is that Drogba took a while to settle down at Chelsea too. And while he was "settling down", the Duffs and Robbens and Lampasas and Joe Coles were firing goals for us. Why not use the team to its strength? Same way it would be completely daft to focus a your attack on Benzema on a team that has Ronaldo on it. It's not rocket science. What massive wing threats did that Inter team have? Again, it's not rocket science to focus it on Milito.

Hazard CAN score goals but he has always been a pass first guy even to a fault sometimes. At least in Costa we'll have someone that's looking to score goals and is actually capable of finishing. Add Cesc and the occasional Schurrle and suddenly the burden of scoring AND creating is lifted off Hazard to a huge degree. This will enable him to score when he sees fit rather than the whole team depending on him to score every game because we have shit strikers. I believe this will also go a long way in his development as a player too. He'll learn a lot of things and most importantly, how to play without the ball.

All of this will also enable us to play the way Jose actually intended all along and which we saw in quite a number of the earlier matches last season but couldn't keep up with because we didn't have the right personnel. He completely reverted back to full time defense-first football starting from that Arsenal game in late December and bought Matic in January to add steel to the midfield and also save as further building for what our summer signings will enable us do.


I encourage you to keep an eye on Chelsea next season. We won't be the same.

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Re: Diego Costa

Post by Don't call me James on Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:57 am

Costa to try to bully the likes of Shawcross and Huth in PL Laughing This ain't La Liga. He won't be bullying anyone.

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Re: Diego Costa

Post by Gil on Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:47 pm

Done deal now. Going to score loads with Cesc and Hazard feeding him.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:53 pm

He'll be the one feeding them Laughing

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Re: Diego Costa

Post by Blue Barrett on Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:08 pm

He's scoring 25 goals in the league next season. Will prob get something like 35 total.

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Re: Diego Costa

Post by RealGunner on Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:08 pm

Yea most likely. Good signing by Chelsea.
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Re: Diego Costa

Post by Kick on Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:55 pm

@Blue Barrett wrote:He's scoring 25 goals in the league next season. Will prob get something like 35 total.

I don't want to start boasting about how many he will score yet. Let's wait till he gets a few, shall we?

Great signing regardless, hopefully our CF issues are fixed now.

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