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Post by Albiceleste on Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:55 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:lol @ Madrid fan's thinking Benzema is one of the best players in the world because of half a good season.

There's a reason Mourinho wants to ship him out for Aguero you know.


Spoiler:
TROLLOLOL( You are overrating him though)
or maybe even Tevez

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Post by guest7 on Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:56 pm

Meh, I said it even the time he flopped but he was fantastic at Lyon, under a smallperiod scored braces everygame, I swear everytime there was a game I could predict a Benzema goal and it would happen.

Although he has flopped a while he had some tough times adapting and his confidence, now that it is all worked out he is in a test for a season now.
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:57 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:
Kuyt is seriously underrated, his work rate is amazing + he was the unsung hero of last years netherlands WC run.

I'm talking about forwards, not strikers btw.

I was responding to


kyut is a decent player, workhorse like you couldnt believe but he is FAR from being a top player. Every coach will love to have him, but let's be honest, not a world class player, not at all.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:57 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:lol @ Madrid fan's thinking Benzema is one of the best players in the world because of half a good season.

There's a reason Mourinho wants to ship him out for Aguero you know.


Spoiler:
TROLLOLOL( You are overrating him though)

which reason is it?

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:59 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:and i dont even count the one season wonders that are on your list, cavani, falcao, chicha, hulk etc...
And yet you count the 3 month wonder that is Benzema? Rolling Eyes

I said 25 forwards, not strikers, btw so the lists are consistent. Perhaps 25 is an exaggeration, after looking at the lists 20 seems closer to the mark, but the point is that many people consider him one of the best when he is simply not.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:01 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:and i dont even count the one season wonders that are on your list, cavani, falcao, chicha, hulk etc...
And yet you count the 3 month wonder that is Benzema? Rolling Eyes

I said 25 forwards, not strikers, btw so the lists are consistent. Perhaps 25 is an exaggeration, after looking at the lists 20 seems closer to the mark, but the point is that many people consider him one of the best when he is simply not.

Benzema started his career a while ago, and did exceptionally well with lyon, particularly in CL, i thought people wouldnt have forgotten about it.

edit: makes me victim of double standard about torres, so i can retract there.

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Post by guest7 on Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:03 pm

Didn't Benzema score 6 goals in 7 games this year in CL?
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Post by awalezelin on Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:03 pm

benzema > all of you in this forum
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Post by aford92 on Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:05 pm

Words cannot begin to describe how little I rate him. He's just one of those players that seem to get alot of hype but IMO have done nothing to deserve it. Other examples are Gareth Bale and Adam Johnson. Most people seem to think they're really good meanwhile I think they should be squad players at best.

Not hating, just my opinion.

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Post by the xcx on Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:06 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:and i dont even count the one season wonders that are on your list, cavani, falcao, chicha, hulk etc...
And yet you count the 3 month wonder that is Benzema? Rolling Eyes

I said 25 forwards, not strikers, btw so the lists are consistent. Perhaps 25 is an exaggeration, after looking at the lists 20 seems closer to the mark, but the point is that many people consider him one of the best when he is simply not.
Hes only 23 and has over 100 goals in hes book, Il rate him as a WC player. Hes style is somewhat similar to CR7, and ofc he was real gem for Lyon back in 2008. He has had a mentality issues, but hey I belive he has overcome hes problem and hes back on track.
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Post by la_liga1 on Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:08 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
@la_liga1 wrote:
@The xcx wrote:
@BarrileteCosmico wrote:There are probably 25 better forwards than him at the moment. Lazy. Would not want him in my team.
Name them.

Tevez
Suarez
Torres
Drogba
Eto
Rooney
Higuain
Aguero
Messi
Ronaldo
Villa
Pedro
Ibra
Llorente
Chicharito
Gomez
Van Persie
Hulk
Falcao
Neymar
Anelka
Rossi
Berbatov

Di Natale
Cavani

even your list is flaud, too many names i can flag of strikers that are on the same level but not better.

lol at anelka and torres, way to overrate them.

and i dont even count the one season wonders that are on your list, cavani, falcao, chicha, hulk etc...

torres and anelka are class. anelka always picked ahead of benzema in the NT. torres just hasn't been in form in recently but we all know how great he can be. falcao and hulk have been doing very well for porto these past couple of years not just one. llorente scored more goals in la liga this season. madrid wanted to buy him in the january window to replace benz. now they're looking at aguero. higuain? i though madrid fans always considered him better than benz, he's definitely shown it on the field more than him. berbatov had a better season than benz, much more established player. chicharito in his first season scored so many goals, important goals as well, and he performs for his national team. Neymar, madrid want him pretty bad as well. Pedro is much more consistent than benz. cavani, well yeah there's some doubts about that. still had a much better season the benz. and rossi, he's done way better than benz last season more goals and assists. He's been carrying villareal.


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Post by awalezelin on Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:10 pm

benzema > guivarch
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:11 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:lol @ Madrid fan's thinking Benzema is one of the best players in the world because of half a good season.

There's a reason Mourinho wants to ship him out for Aguero you know.


Spoiler:
TROLLOLOL( You are overrating him though)

which reason is it?

Aguero is simply better, he has a proven track record of pwning Barca and the fact that Benzema is'nt good enough for Real Madrid i dont care how many goals he scored this season he's simply not at the level that alot seem to believe imo.

@ Omarish that's a misleading stat considering 3 of those goals come against Auxerre in one game.
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Post by guest7 on Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:12 pm

In his breakthrough season Benzema scored 31 goals and 8 assists with Lyon. He also scored against Manchester united when Lyon were against them and the game ended 1-1. He also won Ligue 1 Player of the Year.

He came into Madrid with the wrong mentality and kept slacking. With bad confidence he was eventually a flop. This season he was much better and his 26 goals and 13 assists this season speaks. He was benched, and a flop half of the season yet this guy manages to score 26 goals.
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Post by la_liga1 on Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:16 pm

Benzema got his goals with a bunch of braces and hat tricks against lower class opposition. His own vital goal was against lyon in the away leg.

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Post by guest7 on Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:20 pm

@la_liga1 wrote:Benzema got his goals with a bunch of braces and hat tricks against lower class opposition. His own vital goal was against lyon in the away leg.

Doesn't Messi and Ronaldo do that all the time? I mean, La Liga are pretty much lower class opposition. And in the CL he scored 6 goals. That is pretty good considiring he played 7 games (and I know 3 of them were against Auxerre, but a goal is a goal) Plus he scored 1 against Man U in the season they won CL.
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:26 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:lol @ Madrid fan's thinking Benzema is one of the best players in the world because of half a good season.

There's a reason Mourinho wants to ship him out for Aguero you know.


Spoiler:
TROLLOLOL( You are overrating him though)

which reason is it?

Aguero is simply better, he has a proven track record of pwning Barca and the fact that Benzema is'nt good enough for Real Madrid i dont care how many goals he scored this season he's simply not at the level that alot seem to believe imo.

@ Omarish that's a misleading stat considering 3 of those goals come against Auxerre in one game.
we will agree to disagree, you guys are criminally underrating him. some of the guys i see him being compared to are shocking, whether or not he had a bad season, even in the short while he performed, he proved to be at a higher level than those guys. his last season flopping and getting fat didnt help his reputation, but surely he proved he had shown a lot of qualities even before getting in france no?

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Post by aford92 on Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:33 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
Benzema is'nt good enough for Real Madrid i dont care how many goals he scored this season he's simply not at the level that alot seem to believe imo.

This^^

Of all his goals in La Liga last season only 8 of them directly impacted the end result, the rest were scored when the tie was already over, of those 8 only 3 required any talent from him, the other 5 were either tap ins or one on ones that you would expect a goalkeeper to score or were down to defensive errors.

It seems that he only ever scores when the team as a whole are playing well but when the team are trying to unlock a stubborn defence and need a bit of magic he is nowhere to be found.

It's like if a player scored 20 penalties in one season and then people made a case for him being good because he scored 20 goals.

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Post by awalezelin on Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:38 pm

benzema is one of the best striker in history
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Post by awalezelin on Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:38 pm

benzema is one of the best footballer in history
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Post by Albiceleste on Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:39 pm

edit to avoid sh*tstorm


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Post by awalezelin on Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:39 pm

benzema is one of the best sportman in the entire galaxy
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Post by la_liga1 on Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:39 pm

I think he's good for RM. As a super sub or something.

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Post by la_liga1 on Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:40 pm

@awalezelin wrote:benzema is one of the best sportman in the entire galaxy

riquelme sucks

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Post by aford92 on Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:40 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:
@aford92 wrote:

It's like if a player scored 20 penalties in one season and then people made a case for him being good because he scored 20 goals.
c ronaldo says hi

Haha I had a feeling someone would mention him or Lampard. Laughing

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Post by awalezelin on Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:43 pm

@la_liga1 wrote:
@awalezelin wrote:benzema is one of the best sportman in the entire galaxy

riquelme sucks

riquelme is one of the suck sportsman in the entire universe
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