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Post by SuperMAG on Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:00 pm

I doubt we can buy ozil for the next 3 years, we need another AMC, someone who can control the attack like ozil. Isco is more of an extra attacker or a CM and has no vision or off the ball movements to control and dedicate the attacks.

What about david silva, may be we can revive his career. Or try Benzema in this role. Or some other unknown youngster.

What do you guys think?

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Post by Valkyrja on Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:24 pm

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Post by Mamad on Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:27 pm

Benzema.
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Post by StrugaRock on Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:49 pm

Acelotti: "Ramos"

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Post by titosantill on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:05 pm

i don't think we need another attacking mid, we have isco...we need a striker who can make runs off the ball, right now we have only ronaldo who makes excellent runs....if we rever back to a 4 2 3 1 with isco playing the hole and a mobile striker who converts chances and doesnt miss empty net chances, can pounce on rebounds, can make insiteful runs off the ball, and doesn't wonder away from the goal area, we will be good.....and don't talk to me about a shot that hit the bar in a game that we lost, talking about such just lowers our standards......and people need to lay off khedira, i get upset that he misses chances (he isn't a striker) but he's a damn good hardworker
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Post by Mamad on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:09 pm

A pure 9 doesn't work with Ronaldo.
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Post by FalcaoPunch on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:31 pm

@Mamad wrote:A pure 9 doesn't work with Ronaldo.
That's a lie.
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Post by FalcaoPunch on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:31 pm

@titosantill wrote:i don't think we need another attacking mid, we have isco...we need a striker who can make runs off the ball, right now we have only ronaldo who makes excellent runs....if we rever back to a 4 2 3 1 with isco playing the hole and a mobile striker who converts chances and doesnt miss empty net chances, can pounce on rebounds, can make insiteful runs off the ball, and doesn't wonder away from the goal area, we will be good.....and don't talk to me about a shot that hit the bar in a game that we lost, talking about such just lowers our standards......and people need to lay off khedira, i get upset that he misses chances (he isn't a striker) but he's a damn good hardworker
Isco plays more like a "winger" than a "playmaker".
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Post by Valkyrja on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:52 pm

When you have only 2 players in the whole squad (Di Maria and Modric) who can put the final pass there's clearly something to worry about. When these 2 are not sure starters, it's even more alarming. I still don't understand why did we sell Ozil, and it's 0 chance to get him back. IMO the best replacement would be Oscar, but it's gonna be hard to impossible to get him.

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Post by terrance511 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:07 pm

played dimaria modric and isco together.

we had few nice games at the beginning of the season when they 3 together on field.
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Post by Valkyrja on Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:14 pm

We haven't had a 'nice' game this season. Not even the Galata one.

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Post by guest7 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:02 pm

Only thing we need is a different president.

Perez galactico policy sucks and is the reason why we're lacking a proper AM (said from start that the issue with selling Özil wasn't losing a quality player, but rather lack of depth in that area) along with Ancelotti's idiocy...

Buying Bale was unneccesarry and honestly I've a feeling Jese will prove to be the better player, with Madrid or without Madrid honestly. Think a good team is going to pick him up.
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Post by Jack Daniels on Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:08 pm

@SuperMAG wrote:I doubt we can buy ozil for the next 3 years, we need another AMC, someone who can control the attack like ozil. Isco is more of an extra attacker or a CM and has no vision or off the ball movements to control and dedicate the attacks.

What about david silva, may be we can revive his career. Or try Benzema in this role. Or some other unknown youngster.

What do you guys think?
Aren't you happy to finally see Ramos at DM? nyahahaha.
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Post by Ganso on Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:13 pm

@Jack Daniels wrote:
@SuperMAG wrote:I doubt we can buy ozil for the next 3 years, we need another AMC, someone who can control the attack like ozil. Isco is more of an extra attacker or a CM and has no vision or off the ball movements to control and dedicate the attacks.

What about david silva, may be we can revive his career. Or try Benzema in this role. Or some other unknown youngster.

What do you guys think?
Aren't you happy to finally see Ramos at DM? nyahahaha.
rofl didnt even remember that
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Post by Valkyrja on Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:13 pm

Se7en wrote:Only thing we need is a different president.

Perez galactico policy sucks and is the reason why we're lacking a proper AM (said from start that the issue with selling Özil wasn't losing a quality player, but rather lack of depth in that area) along with Ancelotti's idiocy...

Buying Bale was unneccesarry and honestly I've a feeling Jese will prove to be the better player, with Madrid or without Madrid honestly. Think a good team is going to pick him up.
Please. If losing the best AM in the world isn't losing a quality player then...

PS: Lacking a proper AM ? Wasn't Isco better and more consistent than Ozil ?

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Post by Le Samourai on Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:23 pm

I think those comfortable with the Ozil sale were those that saw we weren't going to be playing with a 10 and who thought that we couldn't afford to play him in midfield.

Ozil had reasons to leave, but ultimately it came down to us spending 100 million on someone he perceived as direct competition. Which is something you in particular, more than any of us here, seemed very comfortable with at the time.

Also, people talking about lacking depth at AM when we don't even play with an AM....

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Post by 3lite on Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:17 am

Se7en wrote:Only thing we need is a different president.

Perez galactico policy sucks and is the reason why we're lacking a proper AM (said from start that the issue with selling Özil wasn't losing a quality player, but rather lack of depth in that area) along with Ancelotti's idiocy...

Buying Bale was unneccesarry and honestly I've a feeling Jese will prove to be the better player, with Madrid or without Madrid honestly. Think a good team is going to pick him up.
Lol... lack of depth. Tell me, how many AM's or playmakers that can make the pass in the final third right now besides Ozil? You guys sold the best...

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Post by SuperMAG on Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:33 am

I am happy with ramos finally being tried as DM, i would love if he alternates with DM/CB position more often.

But that doesnt change our Ozil Hole problem.

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Post by Freeza on Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:46 am

@SuperMAG wrote:I am happy with ramos finally being tried as DM, i would love if he alternates with DM/CB position more often.

But that doesnt change our Ozil Hole problem.
I want some of what you're taking tbh
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Post by titosantill on Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:59 pm

that's not true, and besides i'm more interested in what works for madrid, this season, correct me if i'm wrong but if ronaldo doesn't score we don't win, i'd like for someone who can average 30 goals in all competitions in our ranks and take the pressure off ronaldo....i still believe we have enough people who can create chances, we don't need another "creative" type player.

@Mamad wrote:A pure 9 doesn't work with Ronaldo.
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Post by titosantill on Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:08 pm

just because he can't score goals and has the mobility of a fish out of water does not mean we should play him as an attacking midfielder, we signed him as a striker, if cannot do that properly then let someone who can execute it shine, this thing of playing players out of position does not help. if he cannot deliver as a striker then its best for all parties he leaves
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Post by guest7 on Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:30 am

@3lite wrote:
Se7en wrote:Only thing we need is a different president.

Perez galactico policy sucks and is the reason why we're lacking a proper AM (said from start that the issue with selling Özil wasn't losing a quality player, but rather lack of depth in that area) along with Ancelotti's idiocy...

Buying Bale was unneccesarry and honestly I've a feeling Jese will prove to be the better player, with Madrid or without Madrid honestly. Think a good team is going to pick him up.
Lol... lack of depth. Tell me, how many AM's or playmakers that can make the pass in the final third right now besides Ozil? You guys sold the best...
We have Di Maria who can make passes like that in the final third and has been consistently matching Özil's assist tally throughout three seasons and you guys want him gone anyway.

And no, I don't think he was the best. Had we replaced his position properly, or just kept Kaka, we would have been fine. Once again, Ancelotti is doing his job wrong.
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Post by halamadrid2 on Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:01 pm

Ozil for the umpteenth time does not and will not work in a 4-3-3

our problems has been the constant changes in the midfield. finally it looks like Carlo has found the right combo now all they need is consistency. the defence as well tbh

the other problem is the cf position but thats due to carlo alone we have many solutions to that which will improve us and its up to him to consider them
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Post by FalcaoPunch on Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:13 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:Ozil for the umpteenth time does not and will not work in a 4-3-3

our problems has been the constant changes in the midfield.  finally it looks like Carlo has found the right combo now all they need is consistency. the defence as well tbh

the other problem is the cf position but thats due to carlo alone we have many solutions to that which will improve us and its up to him to consider them
then why are we playing a 4-3-3?
We had done very well with a 4-2-3-1

Now isco doesn't even have a spot/can't work in a 4-3-3.
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Post by halamadrid2 on Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:26 pm

because Carlo thinks 4-3-3 compliments all our players.....I take that as protecting our LB more than anything else Laughing

Isco would honestly not work as an AM, he is too selfish and can't play through balls very well. He would work on the left though which he did do earlier in the season and benched Modric for a couple of games but he was too busy trying to dribble past 4-5 players only to lose the ball eventually Carlo went for Modric who is more disciplined and doesn't try and be iniesta all the time

things can change though if isco shows he is better
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