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Post by The Franchise on Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:49 pm

Even more than that, why would you play both fullbacks out of position and therefore neither can overlap comfortably.

At least save Montoya and keep him in his normal position.

At the moment, we have to wait and age to get any overlaps because Puyol and Montoya are uncomfortable doing so.

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Re: Ajax vs Barcelona

Post by The Franchise on Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:51 pm

Im saying it right now, anyone who suggests that isnt a straight red is plain retarded.

Just saying it before someone does lol
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Re: Ajax vs Barcelona

Post by Hawky on Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:54 pm

Well, at least the sub-team would have fought for a result. The players were strolling on the pitch and Neymar never bothered to track back for the first goal.

I have nothing against Neymar and consider him a great player, but talk about double-standards - if Alexis or Pedro had the number of goals he has and the misses he had throughout the season, everyone would call them shat.

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Post by The Franchise on Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:02 pm

Nah its not double standards at all, because Alexis and Pedro would get called shat because they dont do anything other than scoring goals. When they dont score, often they are exactly that.

Anyone can see Neymar is not like that, his performances rarely if ever are reflected in how many goals he scores. Brings more to the game than that.
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Post by billy_gr on Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:04 pm

seeing Puyol occupying the same space Alves does shows me how much we are missing when he's not playing
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Post by billy_gr on Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:29 pm

also there it is. tha fabled plan B - Pique as a CF :facepalm: 
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Post by harhar11 on Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:38 pm

pathetic performance :facepalm:

That's all I am going to say, otherwise my blood is going to boil.

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Post by danyjr on Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:39 pm

Neymar's Confederations performances fooled most into thinking he is a good finisher but he's been average in that area for Barça. Possibly their most wasteful player in front of goal.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:43 pm

@danyjr wrote:Ajax schooling Barça on how to play possession football Laughing
Ajax possession 36%

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Re: Ajax vs Barcelona

Post by Hawky on Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:46 pm

Worst game I've seen Barcelona play since that 0-3 thumping by Bayern in Camp Nou.

Puyol was useless as a RB. Masche dreadful. Pique played better as a Midfielder - Striker than as a defender. Montoya exposed on the left flank.

Song out of position at times but not entirely his fault. Xavi seemed tired and can't cover defensively and press anymore. Iniesta showed glimpses of genius, but often took too many touches / dribbles. Pedro didn't have much service, Neymar lost too many balls and missed some chances. Cesc played awful.

I'll say it here first, you can quote me later and laugh about it - we aren't going to win anything this year if the players don't change their attitude. It's a squad filled with players that have already won everything and unless Tata really imposes a rotation policy and makes all the players fight for their spot, we'll be seeing games like this.

There is no rotation policy when Bartra outshines Pique and Masche every match yet the two are still considered starters. And when Sergi only gets 15 mins cameos when Xavi is already 34 and needs a replacement.

I don't think it's entirely a coaching issue as we have seen the team play better in other matches - unfortunately the players entered the field far too relaxed and had a different game plan in mind.

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Re: Ajax vs Barcelona

Post by Twoism on Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:01 pm

Eventually your team would lose anyways, I think it's not a bad timing that you did this game, coach could sort out issues prior winter break.
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Re: Ajax vs Barcelona

Post by futbol on Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:02 pm

@The Franchise wrote:Mascherano Laughing

Oh yeah, we dont need a CB at all.
As if this game had anything to do with the centerbacks. Ajax ran more than us playing with 10 men for an entire half. Have you seen the distance covered stats at the end? :facepalm:

Players thought they are going to stroll against a team fighting with their lives for a CL K.O. round spot with their fans behind their backs. :facepalm:


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Re: Ajax vs Barcelona

Post by danyjr on Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:05 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:
@danyjr wrote:Ajax schooling Barça on how to play possession football Laughing
Ajax possession 36%

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Before the red card they had more than you brah :coffee:

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Post by danyjr on Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:22 pm

@futbol wrote:Ajax ran more than us playing with 10 men for an entire half. Have you seen the distance covered stats at the end?
I'm actually interested to see those stats.

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Post by The Franchise on Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:37 pm

@futbol wrote:
@The Franchise wrote:Mascherano Laughing

Oh yeah, we dont need a CB at all.
As if this game had anything to do with the centerbacks. Ajax ran more than us playing with 10 men for an entire half. Have you seen the distance covered stats at the end? :facepalm:

Players thought they are going to stroll against a team fighting with their lives for a CL K.O. round spot with their fans behind their backs. :facepalm:
Forget the game, talk about the CB performance. Thats all I referred to....or dont quote me.
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Re: Ajax vs Barcelona

Post by futbol on Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:42 pm

@danyjr wrote:
@futbol wrote:Ajax ran more than us playing with 10 men for an entire half. Have you seen the distance covered stats at the end?
I'm actually interested to see those stats.
It's on the UEFA homepage (Match Center). Although I can't find the overall number, just for every individual player. You can add the numbers up though if you're not too lazy:

http://de.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2014/matches/live/index.html?day=5&session=1&match=2011838

For Barca the player who run the most was Iniesta with: 11.5 km.

For Ajax you have:

Blind: 12 km
Serero: 12.7 km
Fischer: 13.5 km
Klaassen: 12.5 km

etc.

The difference in intensity was mindblowing. But, yeah. Mascherano's the main culprit that we can't even keep the ball in midfield. Laughing

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Re: Ajax vs Barcelona

Post by The Franchise on Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:48 pm

Reading comprehension fail.

Show me where I said its only his fault we lost.
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Post by futbol on Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:49 pm

@The Franchise wrote:
@futbol wrote:
@The Franchise wrote:Mascherano Laughing

Oh yeah, we dont need a CB at all.
As if this game had anything to do with the centerbacks. Ajax ran more than us playing with 10 men for an entire half. Have you seen the distance covered stats at the end? :facepalm:

Players thought they are going to stroll against a team fighting with their lives for a CL K.O. round spot with their fans behind their backs. :facepalm:
Forget the game, talk about the CB performance.
7 out of 10 performance for a team that is getting completely overrun in midfield, has a youngstar rightback playing as a leftback and a 58 year old Puyol playing as rightback and a horrible Song in midfield.

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Re: Ajax vs Barcelona

Post by futbol on Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:52 pm

@The Franchise wrote:Reading comprehension fail.

Show me where I said its only his fault we lost.
No, in a game where 5026 things went wrong, you just left a sarcastic remark about Mascherano and how "we don't need a centerback".

I can play this game, too:

Neymar's finishing. Laughing

No, we don't need a striker at all.

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Re: Ajax vs Barcelona

Post by danyjr on Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:53 pm

Man, you two need to stop fighting each other. None shall take the shit stirrer crown from me Twisted Evil 

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Post by free_cat on Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:00 pm

Futbol, you are a very annoying and arrogant poster. Hope you are not like this in real life.

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Post by The Franchise on Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:48 pm

@futbol wrote:
@The Franchise wrote:Reading comprehension fail.

Show me where I said its only his fault we lost.
No, in a game where 5026 things went wrong, you just left a sarcastic remark about Mascherano and how "we don't need a centerback".

I can play this game, too:

Neymar's finishing. Laughing

No, we don't need a striker at all.
Well at that point, not too much had gone wrong, it was only 1 nil about my guess about 25 minutes gone.

And no, that doesnt work because only a idiot would say we need to replace Neymar...whereas nearly everyone (other than you of course) would say Mascherano and others arent good enough.
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Re: Ajax vs Barcelona

Post by windkick on Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:54 pm

we deserved to lose. played like crap and got out ran all game. That back line, seriously wtf was Tata thinking? I hope this opens his eyes that Masch is trash. And playing Puyol at RB is just laughable. Pinto also was horrid, as was most of the team

That said, lets hope this opens Tatas eyes and if we were going to lose, then its good we lost this match. We are still top of the group

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Post by free_cat on Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:57 pm

Awful game from us. We can't dominate the opposition if they decide to press and play from the back. We used to destroy teams that did this, and with our style. If they park it, we can dominate but then struggle a lot to score.

The reason to this is mostly Xavi, s decline and iniesta poor form. Off course, Busquets not playing doesn't help and song had an off game.

Tata made many mistakes and we played with not enough intensity.

Neymar was awful except in the penalty play. He missed Pedro twice in clearer positions and lost tons of balls.

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Post by futbol on Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:04 am

@The Franchise wrote:
@futbol wrote:
@The Franchise wrote:Reading comprehension fail.

Show me where I said its only his fault we lost.
No, in a game where 5026 things went wrong, you just left a sarcastic remark about Mascherano and how "we don't need a centerback".

I can play this game, too:

Neymar's finishing. Laughing

No, we don't need a striker at all.
Well at that point, not too much had gone wrong, it was only 1 nil about my guess about 25 minutes gone.

And no, that doesnt work because only a idiot would say we need to replace Neymar...whereas nearly everyone (other than you of course) would say Mascherano and others arent good enough.
Reading comprehension fail.

Show me where I wrote "replace Neymar".

While you're at it, you could also point me to the post where I said we don't need a centerback. All you will find is me saying that we can't get anything better than what we have now in the winter transfer window.

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Post by The Franchise on Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:56 am

Riiiight Rolling Eyes 

We cant find anyone better than Mascherano? Really? You want to stand by that statement with pride?
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