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Post by Onyx on Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:25 pm



Espanyol vs Real Madrid discussion.

Quarter-final 1st leg.

Tuesday 21st January.




H2H Past 2 meetings:

Away: 12th January 2014 - Espanyol 0-1 Real Madrid

Away: 11th May 2013 - Espanyol 1-1 Real Madrid



Injuries/Suspensions:

Espanyol: David Lopez.

Real Madrid: Varane and Khedira.


Espanyol Copa del Rey results:


Last 32:

Real Jaen 2-2 Espanyol
Espanyol 2-0 Real Jaen

Last 16:

Alcorcon 1-0 Espanyol
Espanyol 4-2 Alcorcon



Real Madrid players called up:

Goalkeepers: Casillas, Diego López and Jesús.
Defenders: Pepe, Ramos, Marcelo, Carvajal, Arbeloa and Nacho.
Midfielders: Xabi Alonso, Bale, Modric, Casemiro, Di María, Isco and Illarra.
Forwards: Cristiano Ronaldo, Benzema, Jesé and Morata




Real Madrid predicted lineup:

---------------Casillas
---Arbeloa--Pepe---Nacho---Marcelo
----------Casemiro--Modric-
---------Bale----Jese----Ronaldo
----------------Morata


Ancelotti pre match:

"We are going into the match thinking about it being a quarter-final over two legs. We have to play well. I was happy with how we did against them in La Liga. We have to play like that again, or better if possible. Our aim is to take the advantage in this match. I know that the tie will be decided at the Bernabéu and that we have to play well both matches. Espanyol are a good team and are very well organised. They are a physically strong team and there will be a high intensity in the match. They will do everything to try to win and getting a good result in the first leg would make their job easier".

"They played each other and we made up two points then. Then, neither of them won yesterday because we are playing in a very competitive league and all matches are difficult to win. You can’t always win. It happened with us against Osasuna. A lot of the credit for having cut the gap goes to the team because they have kept fighting in the competition. We improved after the match with Barcelona".

About his preference for the 4-3-3 formation, he said: "The system gives us more balance because the defensive job done by the three midfielders is very good and we will keep using this system. It is true that it makes it more difficult for Isco, but I think he can play in Di María’s or Modric’s positions. I have not completely forgotten about old system and we may use it from time to time". About whether the number of matches throughout January has forced him to change training patterns, he said: "We are very focused on the recovery of the players. Those that have not played the match do the same as before and the others do more in the pool, and eat and sleep well".

Regarding free-kicks and Bale’s high success rate, he said: "Clearly he has better chances from the free-kicks on the left, then we have Cristiano Ronaldo for the ones from the right. That’s what we’ve decided. Cristiano Ronaldo is stronger from the right and Bale from the left". When asked about recent reports that Neymar cost around 100 million euros, the Italian was blunt: "I'm not an accountant, I’m a football coach".

Finally, about Cristiano Ronaldo’s fitness and the possibility of resting him for any match, he was clear: "When I think he looks tired, I’ll rest him. Right now, he isn’t tired and has no problems playing. Rotation is needed when a player is tired. We communicate well with all of the players and some of them make it clear when they are tired".


Prediction:

Espanyol 0-1 Real Madrid


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Re: Copa del Rey: Espanyol vs Real Madrid discussion

Post by Valkyrja on Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:32 pm

Casillas
Carvajal Nacho Ramos Coentrao
Casemiro Illarra Di Maria
Bale Ronaldo Jese

Play Di Maria in midfield. He is better there but still needs to get used to this role.

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Re: Copa del Rey: Espanyol vs Real Madrid discussion

Post by halamadrid2 on Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:58 pm

Vital we put the tie beyond Espanols reach so that we can rest our starters in the return leg for our away game vs Bilbao the following weekend

predicting a 2-0 for us personally but hope we can come away with a 4-0 win to give us that breathing space
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Post by Adit on Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:40 pm

Di Maria in midfield is a horrible experiment i repeat. It may work against dead last Betis or Osasuna but once we play a top team Di Maria's true weakness will come out. His very bad decision making will be on display, just like he showed against Atletico when played deep. Decision making is important for center midfielders especially since they can not afford to make mistake like the forwards.

His one footedness will be a massive problem if a team press us in midfield in our half, none of the teams we played with DI Maria in midfield pressed us so far or have the capacity to do so..his ground passing game isnt the best either.

All in all despite the black magic that was on show against Betis and Osasuna we will suffer horribly with Di Maria in midfield against top teams.

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Re: Copa del Rey: Espanyol vs Real Madrid discussion

Post by Onyx on Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:54 pm

Casillas; Arbeloa, Pepe, Sergio Ramos, Marcelo; Illarramendi, Modric, Di María; Bale, Cristiano y Benzema

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Post by the xcx on Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:22 pm

Despite Benzema scoring that cheap header he was poor tonight as usual. Should have passed it to CR7 to make it 2-0. Selfish play by him.
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Post by izzy on Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:23 pm

the xcx wrote:Despite Benzema scoring that cheap header he was poor tonight as usual. Should have passed it to CR7 to make it 2-0. Selfish play by him.

Well, he wasn't poor.

And I love the fact he took that shot. About damn time he got greedy.

Overall, I don't care that much, the clean sheet is all I care about.
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Re: Copa del Rey: Espanyol vs Real Madrid discussion

Post by Valkyrja on Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:25 pm

Modric, Bale, Arbeloa and Benzema were our best players tonight IMO. Bale is starting to get used to la liga's defending. Illarra and Di Maria were good too, so was Marcelo. Good performance, the score doesn't reflect what has actually happened

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Re: Copa del Rey: Espanyol vs Real Madrid discussion

Post by FalcaoPunch on Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:27 pm

Modric has been on fire and playing extremely well for quite some time now. Proving the haters wrong :bow:

Even if Benzema didn't pass it to Ronaldo to make it 2-0 it doesn't matter. Ronaldo spent the better part of the first half trying to find his shooting boots and wasted countless opportunities. So if anyone talks about selfish please include Ronaldo in the mix for tonights game.
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Re: Copa del Rey: Espanyol vs Real Madrid discussion

Post by Cyborg on Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:33 pm

Madrid games are so boring these days.

no real ideas during the game

di maria is annoying and frustrating.

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Post by Kuru on Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:24 pm

the xcx wrote:Despite Benzema scoring that cheap header he was poor tonight as usual. Should have passed it to CR7 to make it 2-0. Selfish play by him.

Lol, Ronaldo wasted so much more easier opportunities when he decided to shoot from tighter angles where another player was completely empty, and no one gives a sh*t. This was the only time where I saw benzema got greedy, and I would bet all of what I got that if Cristiano was presented with the same opportunity 100 times over, he would decide to shoot each time.
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Post by the xcx on Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:30 pm

I dont recall that shot from the tight angle early on being an selfish play because Benzema was clearly marked tightly and he was the only one in the box on that momentum so CR7 taking a shot for the goal was justified as he did not want to kill of the chance. If you cant pass then shoot instead.

Benzema is not renowned as a finisher so therefore I judged him being selfish.
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Post by LeSwagg James on Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:42 am

the xcx wrote:Despite Benzema scoring that cheap header he was poor tonight as usual. Should have passed it to CR7 to make it 2-0. Selfish play by him.

Cheap? :facepalm:

You should be happy he reacted quickly enough to put the ball in the back of the net

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Post by Kuru on Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:52 am

the xcx wrote:I dont recall that shot from the tight angle early on being an selfish play because Benzema was clearly marked tightly and he was the only one in the box on that momentum so CR7 taking a shot for the goal was justified as he did not want to kill of the chance. If you cant pass then shoot instead.

Benzema is not renowned as a finisher so therefore I judged him being selfish.

I wasn't talking about whatever shot Ronaldo took this match, I was talking about his play in general, he takes way too many stupid shot where Benzema (and this season Bale) were much, much better options. He does this almost every match, and usually more than once.

Benzema did it once, end of story, it's okay for a STRIKER to take his chances every so often, especially when the WINGER in the team, takes more shots than the whole team combined, and he didn't even do it when the match were a drew, and were trailing behind, usually when Ronaldo goes crazy and shoot at every opportunity.
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Post by halamadrid2 on Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:23 am

Solid game. We controlled the game save for the last 15 minutes where you could see fatigue creeping up on some of our players and espanyol found it easier to penetrate us

Really liking what I see from the midfield and defence and Benzema has really started performing now as well. Don't care whether he took the shot instead of squaring it. CL??? yes definitely but Copa??? na not really. We missed easier chances than that prior to that shot so to speak

Some of the decision makings were poor by our players and for once it wasn't by dimaria Proud

Marcelo didn't have the best game neither did Ronaldo and Bale. The latter two really need to step up their link up play because we rely on that in this 4-3-3

Real Madrid have not conceded a single goal in 6 consecutive games only for the 2nd time in their 112 years of history (and 1st since 1995)

dat Carlo dat improved defence dat improved performance Proud
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Post by the xcx on Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:41 am

Rumor has it that Marcelo and Modric has some kind of a conflict with each other. You could see that in yesterday.
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Post by halamadrid2 on Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:31 am

the xcx wrote:Rumor has it that Marcelo and Modric has some kind of a conflict with each other. You could see that in yesterday.

you mean Modric' stray pass that Marcelo gestured he wanted infront of him

normal talk between players. Move on nothing to see here. Marcelo does not fight or have a conflict with anyone. he is too happy to do that lol
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Re: Copa del Rey: Espanyol vs Real Madrid discussion

Post by Kuru on Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:22 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:

Some of the decision makings were poor by our players and for once it wasn't by dimaria Proud


Yeah, that was cool by Dimaria Proud
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Post by terrance511 on Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:24 am

dimaria had couple of good and open run. but ronaldo did not pass to him.

atleast he's a hardworker. why hate him so much?
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Post by Le Samourai on Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:03 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
the xcx wrote:Rumor has it that Marcelo and Modric has some kind of a conflict with each other. You could see that in yesterday.

you mean Modric' stray pass that Marcelo gestured he wanted infront of him

normal talk between players. Move on nothing to see here. Marcelo does not fight or have a conflict with anyone. he is too happy to do that lol

I thought that was poor conduct from Marcelo. He should be doing that 3 minutes into a game or because of a misplaced pass. If that was Xabi making that pass you better believe he walks away quietly.
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Post by Adit on Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:32 pm

I dont really hate Di Maria but i just cant pretend that Di Maria is the answer to our midfield problems, he isnt. Di Maria skillsets are not suited to play in midfield weather it is decision making,two footedness,ground passing and not touching the wings all the time....its just that he isnt suited to play as center midfielder. And just as i predicted, these games against bottom half teams are deceiving many of you already.

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Post by the xcx on Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:16 pm

We are going to trash them in home.
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Re: Copa del Rey: Espanyol vs Real Madrid discussion

Post by halamadrid2 on Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:53 pm

Le Samourai wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
the xcx wrote:Rumor has it that Marcelo and Modric has some kind of a conflict with each other. You could see that in yesterday.

you mean Modric' stray pass that Marcelo gestured he wanted infront of him

normal talk between players. Move on nothing to see here. Marcelo does not fight or have a conflict with anyone. he is too happy to do that lol

I thought that was poor conduct from Marcelo. He should be doing that 3 minutes into a game or because of a misplaced pass. If that was Xabi making that pass you better believe he walks away quietly.

considering the space Marcelo was in I would have been pretty pissed as well. Modric sometimes kicks the ball nonchalantly with the outside of his boot and when it doesn't work you really wonder why he wouldn't just keep it simple. I have seen the same gesturing between Marcelo and Ronaldo and they are best friends. It is just normal talks during games when adrenaline are running high

a couple of games ago Arbeloa and Ramos seemed to have a pretty heated discussion about something. If you show no emotions you are going to find it hard for people to warm up to you.
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Post by the xcx on Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:27 pm

Im going to be bold and predict an 5-0 score in favor of us.
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Post by halamadrid2 on Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:36 pm

We are most probably going to rest half of our team for that game because of the Bilbao game the following weekend

I think we will win 2-0
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