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Post by Onyx on Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:27 pm



Real Madrid vs Atletico Madrid discussion.

Semi final 1st leg.

Wednesday 5th February.




H2H Past 2 meetings:

Home: 28th September 2013 - Real Madrid 0-1 Atletico Madrid

Copa del Rey final: 17th May 2013 - Real Madrid 1-2 Atletico Madrid



Injuries/Suspensions:

Real Madrid: Khedira.

Atletico Madrid: David Villa.


Atletico Madrid Copa del Rey results:


Last 32:

Sant Andreu 0-4 Atletico Madrid
Atletico Madrid 2-1 Sant Andreu

Last 16:

Valencia 1-1 Atletico Madrid
Atletico Madrid 2-0 Valencia

Quarter-final

Atletico Madrid 1-0 Athletic Bilbao
Athletic Bilbao 1-2 Atletico Madrid




Real Madrid players called up:

Goalkeepers: Casillas, Diego López & Jesús.
Defenders: Pepe, Sergio Ramos, Varane, Marcelo, Carvajal, Arbeloa, Nacho & Coentrão.
Midfielders: Xabi Alonso, Bale, Modric, Illarra, Casemiro, Isco & Di María.
Forwards: Cristiano Ronaldo, Benzema, Morata & Jesé.




Real Madrid predicted lineup:

---------------Casillas
---Arbeloa--Pepe---Nacho---Coentrao
----------Casemiro--Illarramendi-
--------Jese----Isco----Ronaldo
----------------Morata


Ancelotti pre match:

Carlo Ancelotti spoke to the press at Real Madrid City ahead of tomorrow’s derby against Atlético. The Italian coach, who said that “Cristiano Ronaldo, Arbeloa and Coentrão will start”, discussed the team’s first-leg of the Copa del Rey semi-final. “It’s a knockout tie and we have 180 minutes to win it. Keeping a clean sheet at home will be very important and they’ll play a really intense game with reduced spaces on the pitch, so we’ll have to play quickly. We’ll have to be at our best and play confidently. We deserved to lose against Atlético in La Liga and tomorrow it will be a different team than the one that played them in the Bernabéu. We’ve changed a lot because we have more confidence and another way of playing”.

Real Madrid’s coach also lavished praise on tomorrow’s rival: “Atlético are perfectly organised on defence and are very good at using the break. They have kept the same quality in their organisation but have even more confidence. I like how organised they are because they’re very solid, compact and play well on the counter-attack. The derby is one of the most important matches for both clubs and a Real Madrid-Atlético is always important”.

On Simeone and his tendency to take the pressure off his team, Ancelotti commented: “Everything is going well for him this season and it’s normal to say this to take the pressure off a team that no one had down as favourites at the beginning of the season and are now in the top spot”. Regarding the importance of playing the first leg at home, the coach said: “It’s an important match and we have the support of our fans. Keeping a clean sheet will be crucial and we’ll try to avoid risks in back”.

When asked if he is pleased with the way his team is playing, Ancelotti replied: “We’re confident and the team is balanced. We win a lot of matches without taking risks and I’m satisfied. Hopefully we’ll win another ten straight games after the draw in Bilbao. All the players are doing well and we’ll make a decision about the line-up tomorrow, but Coentrão and Arbeloa will start”.

The coach also discussed the system he uses to start off the matches: “We’re playing with a 4-3-3 because it balances the team more. That’s what the statistics say and the three midfielders are working well. Not only is Di María working but he’s also scoring goals. He’s doing a really balanced job and he likes to play in this position”.

Ancelotti replied to questions about Cristiano Ronaldo and whether he will play tomorrow: “I don’t think we’ll have to wait for the Committee. His sanction won’t be serious and he’ll be on tomorrow’s line-up. He’ll start”. As for his thoughts on the Cristiano’s gesture after his sending off in San Mamés, Ancelotti was clear: “You’ll have to ask him. I don’t think it was such a bad gesture and the red card was an exaggeration. He’s a player who’s constantly provoked and fouled. I don’t think his gesture was that bad”.

Ancelotti was also asked about Bale: “Bale is available. He’s recovered well and has done well every day that he’s trained with the team. He did a good job for part of the season, when he was fit. He’s also had some problems, but he’ll be much better next year since he’ll have a full preseason and will have adapted to Spanish football”.

As for his thoughts on Modric’s fantastic form, Ancelotti said: “Modric’s ability is his fantastic progression with the ball and his position gives him that opportunity. This is the reason. It was also important to get used to being here because the first year in a new club, country and culture isn’t that easy. He’s doing a good job”.

The last two players the coach was asked about were Jesé and Varane. “I took him off in Bilbao because he was tired and had worked really hard. With a player down we had to defend more to avoid problems. He’s starting because he did in Bilbao”, Ancelotti said about the home-grown player. Regarding Varane, he said: “His knee has recovered and he’s fine. He may play tomorrow and if he doesn’t tomorrow he will on Saturday. The player is doing really well”, he said."


Prediction:

Real Madrid 1-1 Atletico Madrid

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Re: Copa del Rey: *El Derbi Madrileno* - Real Madrid vs Atletico Madrid discussion

Post by FalcaoPunch on Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:28 pm


---------------Casillas
---Arbeloa--Pepe---Nacho---Coentrao
----------Casemiro--Illarramendi-
--------Jese----Isco----Ronaldo
----------------Morata


Kidding... right?
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Re: Copa del Rey: *El Derbi Madrileno* - Real Madrid vs Atletico Madrid discussion

Post by LeVersacci on Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:02 pm

Hala u high & drunk?


OT. I think we'll see a 3 man mid. Hopefully Illarra instead of Di posmia
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Re: Copa del Rey: *El Derbi Madrileno* - Real Madrid vs Atletico Madrid discussion

Post by Valkyrja on Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:41 pm

Casillas
Carvajal Pepe Ramos Marcelo
Illarra Xabi Modric
Bale Benz Cristiano

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Re: Copa del Rey: *El Derbi Madrileno* - Real Madrid vs Atletico Madrid discussion

Post by FalcaoPunch on Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:06 pm

@Valkyrja wrote:
Casillas
Carvajal Pepe Ramos Marcelo
Illarra Xabi Modric
Bale Benz Cristiano
Much more reasonable.
However I expect if things don't go well for us, that we should expect to see Bale out of it and loss on the RW. He becomes too isolated and he isn't going to be able to keep sprinting down the wing and trying to cross it.
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Re: Copa del Rey: *El Derbi Madrileno* - Real Madrid vs Atletico Madrid discussion

Post by Onyx on Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:08 pm

Ancelotti already confirmed Arbeloa and Coentrao will start. Bale's not certain to start either.

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Re: Copa del Rey: *El Derbi Madrileno* - Real Madrid vs Atletico Madrid discussion

Post by FalcaoPunch on Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:23 pm

I hope Isco starts. This would be a great opportunity at redemption and proving his worth

I just wish he would stop trying to play as if he's playing fifa.
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Re: Copa del Rey: *El Derbi Madrileno* - Real Madrid vs Atletico Madrid discussion

Post by Valkyrja on Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:36 pm

It's too risky to play Isco in such a match.

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Re: Copa del Rey: *El Derbi Madrileno* - Real Madrid vs Atletico Madrid discussion

Post by futbol on Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:54 pm

Calma. Ronaldo got this.

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Re: Copa del Rey: *El Derbi Madrileno* - Real Madrid vs Atletico Madrid discussion

Post by FennecFox7 on Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:49 pm

yeah, isco start in an important match like this against a bulldozer midfield.. no damn way.

We should play with an extra midfielder and really try to win the middle of the park.
CR is gonna have to track back alot along with di maria

Athleticos main strength is their collective effort and pressing. Individually, they're poor compared to real madrid and barcelona. Overloading the midfield is gonna be key. We have way more quality then them, we just need to show it.

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Post by FalcaoPunch on Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:57 am

So we're more than likely sticking with the 4-3-3.
Will Di Maria be in the mid again or on the RW
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Post by halamadrid2 on Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:09 am

Judging by his presser it will probably be the same midfield three again. They did really well defensively vs Bilbao but could have done more when in posession, hope Carlo has adressed the issue of the two cms being too far from Alonso because we will need as many bodies in the middle as possible

I think Jese will start this one or that's what I think Carlo hinted at in the press conference. I am happy because I think he is the most inform player of the front 3 and can really do damaga against the slow insua
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Post by RealGunner on Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:09 pm

RealMadrid XI vs. Atlético: Casillas; Arbeloa, Pepe, Ramos, Coentrão; Xabi Alonso, Modric; Cristiano Ronaldo, Jesé, Di María; Benzema.

Atletico XI: Courtois; Juanfran, Miranda, Godín, Insúa; Gabi, Koke; Arda, Diego Ribas, Raúl García & Diego Costa
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Post by futbol on Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:25 pm

DAT double Diego upfront. :bow:

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Post by M99 on Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:20 pm

Jese, what a talent :bow:

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Post by terrance511 on Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:22 pm

dimaria the scrub killer
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Post by halamadrid2 on Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:34 pm

What a fcking game. We dominated them from minute 0 to minute 90. They had like 2 chances all game. Great great

Jese :bow:
Pepe :bow: :bow: :bow:
our defending :bow:

I wish we hadn't conceded that wonder striker by ibai this Sunday ffs
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Re: Copa del Rey: *El Derbi Madrileno* - Real Madrid vs Atletico Madrid discussion

Post by Valkyrja on Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:37 pm

Ramos was better than Pepe tonight. He is getting back to his 2011-12 level.

btw I'm now waiting for Benavente and J-Rod to make a name for themselves, just like Jese and Morata

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Post by halamadrid2 on Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:49 pm

You might want to wait long for Benavente because Diaz is just refusing to play him

Hope J-Rod gets promoted though. he has what it takes to start for the first team imo
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Re: Copa del Rey: *El Derbi Madrileno* - Real Madrid vs Atletico Madrid discussion

Post by Onyx on Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:19 pm

Everything went well in the derby against Atlético Madrid and Carlo Ancelotti said as much in the press room. The Italian coach was pleased with the win and praised his team's performance: "I am completely satisfied with the match, everyone did fantastically.

We did everything right; we recovered the ball well and were very aggressive and compact. My wish would be to have a team like tonight all of the time. We won the match by playing well. Our team showed that we can play matches like this and we have to do that as consistently as possible because now every match is important".

Goals from Pepe, Di María and Jesé gave Real Madrid a great advantage in the cup semi-final. Ancelotti does not believe that the tie is decided however: "The result is very good and the match was too, but we have to be careful. We have to do the same in the second leg, but it will not be easy because Atlético Madrid will do their best to turn things around. We have to prepare well for the match, like we did for tonight’s". About whether it was their best match of the season, he said: "I ​​think so, especially since our opponents are a good team. They are well-organised, strong and aggressive and that is what makes it a very good match".

The Italian mentioned several players by name. "Everyone knows that Jesé is very important to us. He scores goals in big matches", he said about the former academy player. About Bale, who was not involved in the match, he said: "He hasn’t taken a turn for the worse or anything, he is fine and I preferred to rest him because Cristiano can’t play on Saturday and having Gareth fresh will be good. He’ll be there on Saturday".

The Whites’ coach talked about the differences between the La Liga derby and tonight’s: "A lot has changed, we are playing more naturally, the team is more compact and playing together better. The players have been working very hard and today they had a good match. The loss in La Liga hurt us and we had the awareness to do things better this time".

When asked about how Pepe had defended against Diego Costa, he said: "The task was to be careful with him because he is very dangerous. It was an intense match and there were words between them, but everything went well. There was some aggression in the match and that is why there was the odd foul". He also praised job done in defence: "There is no need for any more words, it was perfect. The back four had a perfect match".

The coach was asked about the system and the midfield with Modric, Alonso and Di María: "I see what they do in training and the characteristics of the players. We are more balanced with this system. It is more difficult for some players in this system. Modric and Alonso are doing well and we also have Illarra and Isco. The time will come for everyone to play, although some of them are not playing much right now".

Regarding Cristiano Ronaldo’s suspension, Ancelotti said: "No one is happy about it. Not being able to play for three matches is not normal. That is why we appealed. It would be normal for him to have the suspension reduced because three matches for what he did is not normal".

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Post by chad4401 on Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:17 am

seriously pepe>ramos how is this still a discussion? once varane is fit, ramos gets dropped imo.

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Post by Pedram on Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:19 am

Our defenders seriously abused Diego Costa.

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Post by the xcx on Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:19 am

Perfect result to demonstrate that the last years final was a fluke from their part.
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Re: Copa del Rey: *El Derbi Madrileno* - Real Madrid vs Atletico Madrid discussion

Post by Onyx on Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:14 pm

Reports in the Spanish Press this morning claim that Raphael Varane will be back in the Real Madrid starting XI this week.

Los Blancos go to Vicente Calderon on Wednesday for the second leg of their Copa del Rey semi-final.

They have a 3-0 lead going into the match, and as such, Carlo Ancelotti will start the France international as he looks to come back from injury.

The youngster has been out since November 9 with a recurring knee injury, but after coming through training, AS believe that the Italian tactician will put his faith in the centre-back for the derby.

Varane will also be put into the XI to protect either Sergio Ramos or Pepe, who are both a booking away from suspension.

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