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Post by eelir on Sat 8 Mar - 16:38

I just woke up, and I have to say, I am not surprised with the results. We really suck for a while.

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Post by RealGunner on Sat 8 Mar - 17:07

There was nothing new in this performance that wasn't there few weeks ago. Same old problems.

Thought Mascherano was quite good today though. Pedro with one of the worst performance in a barca shirt. Might as well have started Tello. Was clear the team was jaded. Valladolid worked 3 times as harder and their physical peak was much much higher. They had nothing to worry about in terms of counter or losing possession high up because it was so easy for them to recover in contrast with Barcelona.

Was disappointed with Busquets. From being one of the most reliable with the ball to this. Could have started Sergi or Song instead of him.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sat 8 Mar - 17:43

Barta was probably thinking: What does Pique have to do to get benched?



It's somewhat amazing that all four players in the backline made mistakes that led to the goal.


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Post by danyjr on Sat 8 Mar - 17:54

Dis Mascherano as much as you like, he is not a CB anyway. But he is a gazillion times better than Piqué. Even at ball playing.

Please go and watch Koscielny to understand a ball playing CB isn't a player who takes 5 seconds to make a decision as to who to pass to, can't even hoof the ball with his left foot and can't head the ball period. And above all, as a defender, can't defend...

Forget about Barcelona...how this guy still plays for Spain after an awful Euro 2012 and Confederations Cup is beyond my understanding. Actually wait, it isn't. Del Bosque is too scared to make changes to a "winning team", failing to realise it isn't 2010 any more.

The attitude of Barça is so bad that I haven't really watched them in the second half of the season. Though you can't blame players who have won it all, but you can and you should blame the clowns who run this club.

It is a shame though, that Madrid are going to walk this La Liga without even being good. Let's say their "luck" with referees and also in some decisive matches got them the trophy but Barcelona got only themselves to blame.

PS: If Pellegrini is a half decent coach he should beat Barcelona at Camp Nou. Time for him to prove himself.

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Re: LL: Real Valladolid - FC Disgrace

Post by eelir on Sat 8 Mar - 18:03

RM league with Mou was largly due to awful refereeing. This one, we have only us to blame.
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Post by BarcaLearning on Sat 8 Mar - 18:28

Wow this was poor. But lets give credit to Valladolid, I thought they played just right. But it doesnt take away of couse that we were pretty shite Sad

Everyone seemed tired from international duties perhaps? How Neymar scores a hattrick got Brazil and then is meh for this match is puzzling...

We NEED INIESTA. Its sad news btw....of his wife.... but I guess Tata is really having problems now, its not just the defense, its overall it seems. In the past we vs similar situations but we can still solve it, but this game we looked so troubled and look lost of ideas...

4 points likely.... this was very bad. Final chance now, if we dont improve after this our season is really gone....
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Post by futbol on Sat 8 Mar - 19:06

Alves: "Those who cannot trust in us should get off the boat."

What boat you clown? A boat 3000 miles beneath the surface is not a boat. It's a wreckage.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sat 8 Mar - 19:20

Alves has some nerve to be talking after the match he played... nearly all the first half chances came from his wing.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sat 8 Mar - 19:24

condolences to iniesta.

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Post by free_cat on Sat 8 Mar - 20:41

Soooo, khaled, so far so good and all that rubbish?
Our league form since December is woeful. We have no chance to win the league. I don't think we'll win any title, but maybe the cup or the champions league if we play counter attacking. it's the only way we can score under paTata.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sat 8 Mar - 20:44

We have not scored first in a league away game since Betis in November. Laughing

Spoiler:
Crying or Very sad

The clasico will end up as a 5-0 at this rate.

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Post by The Franchise on Sat 8 Mar - 22:13

I dont understand why anyone is really being singled out, like anyone comes out of that match with any credit whatsoever.

Name a players, I will tell you what they did wrong. An awful performance.

I think we need to get to the stage Man Utd are at. Not performance or result wise, but I mean it needs to be laid out perfectly clear that the players who want to be around next season have to show it because based on recent stuff, not many are showing it.

Tata wont make a second season if he dont stop the bleeding.

The attitude of this team is criminal.
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Post by free_cat on Sat 8 Mar - 22:23

Tata shouldn't get another season regardless based on his job so far. We play worse and worse everyday.

Even if we fluke the champions Chelsea stile, he should be sacked.

Only a radical improvement on our play would be good enough for him to stay.

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Post by futbol on Sat 8 Mar - 22:26

Have you watched Spain - Italy 3 days ago? Pedro was beasting, Iniesta was looking so motivated that I thought "dafuq, this is just a friendly, calm down dude" and overall the tactical mechanisms were all clicking. Beautiful build-ups from the back, quick ball recovery, very good pressing, keeping the lines compact, nice triangulations all around, unpredictable movements all around. Even when they weren't at their very best. Stylistically it simply looked like Pep's Barca. So at this point I can only question the coach, not the players. The players still got it but if the tactical frame around them fails they look like headless chickens. Busquets, Iniesta and Messi don't look themselves this season, pretty much our 3 most important players. Meanwhile Alexis is poaching goals and Fabregas is poaching assists. Says it all about the system.

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Re: LL: Real Valladolid - FC Disgrace

Post by zigra on Sat 8 Mar - 23:36

@free_cat wrote:Tata shouldn't get another season regardless based on his job so far. We play worse and worse everyday.

Even if we fluke the champions Chelsea stile, he should be sacked.

Only a radical improvement on our play would be good enough for him to stay.
Who would you want to replace him with? Not disagreeing with you I'm just curious.
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Post by sportsczy on Sat 8 Mar - 23:40

Personally, i would promote Luis Enrique...

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Re: LL: Real Valladolid - FC Disgrace

Post by Robespierre on Sun 9 Mar - 2:17

@sportsczy wrote:Personally, i would promote Luis Enrique...

random comment in a Real Madrid forum Proud
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Re: LL: Real Valladolid - FC Disgrace

Post by alexjanosik on Sun 9 Mar - 6:50

I couldnt watch the match because of work.Is it worth downloading and watching or will be smashing my laptop afterwards?

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sun 9 Mar - 7:33

If you can get past the first 30 minutes without smashing it your laptop will be fine, after that the attitude/mobility/whateveryouwannacallit of the team starts improving but by that point they already parked the plane and we did not manage to break them. Either way it will be a frustrating performance to watch.

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Post by free_cat on Sun 9 Mar - 8:41

@zigra wrote:
@free_cat wrote:Tata shouldn't get another season regardless based on his job so far. We play worse and worse everyday.

Even if we fluke the champions Chelsea stile, he should be sacked.

Only a radical improvement on our play would be good enough for him to stay.
Who would you want to replace him with? Not disagreeing with you I'm just curious.

I said several times my favourite options: Valverde or De Boer.

Other options would be Robert Martinez or Luis Enrique.

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Post by alexjanosik on Sun 9 Mar - 13:24

@The Franchise wrote:I dont understand why anyone is really being singled out, like anyone comes out of that match with any credit whatsoever.

Name a players, I will tell you what they did wrong. An awful performance.

I think we need to get to the stage Man Utd are at. Not performance or result wise, but I mean it needs to be laid out perfectly clear that the players who want to be around next season have to show it because based on recent stuff, not many are showing it.

Tata wont make a second season if he dont stop the bleeding.

The attitude of this team is criminal.

I think this is important.It needs to be made clear to all players that if they dont pull their weight they are out.And that needs to start at the top with Messi.It wont work if we just send the message to the pawns.If the king walks around as if he owns the pitch,the pawns are not going to bother.
It needs be made perfectly clear to Messi first that he needs to show commitment and effort when he walks out on the pitch.If he cant,then he can leave.Once he is delivered the message,the others wont even need reminding.They will fall in line.

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Post by neuro11 on Sun 9 Mar - 15:52

Yeah. Now is the time, people will come out with their personal hatred toward specific player and hang them. this is no surprise.

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Post by zigra on Sun 9 Mar - 20:10

@free_cat wrote:
@zigra wrote:
@free_cat wrote:Tata shouldn't get another season regardless based on his job so far. We play worse and worse everyday.

Even if we fluke the champions Chelsea stile, he should be sacked.

Only a radical improvement on our play would be good enough for him to stay.
Who would you want to replace him with? Not disagreeing with you I'm just curious.

I said several times my favourite options: Valverde or  De Boer.

Other options would be Robert Martinez or Luis Enrique.

Don't know about Valverde but I'm not sure de Boer would be up for this. We play like shit 9/10 games which is mainly because our midfield isn't envolved enough. Of course this is mainly down to our pathetic midfield but he had three years to adress that issue and so far he hasn't really improved the situation so maybe he's happy with that. Certainly would be interesting to see but so far I'm not convinced he's ready to manage such a big club.
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Post by CBarca on Mon 10 Mar - 2:46

Watch the game if you're planning on killing yourself Alex.

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Post by free_cat on Mon 10 Mar - 14:32

@neuro11 wrote:Yeah. Now is the time, people will come out with their personal hatred toward specific player and hang them. this is no surprise.

Agreed. Messi is putting a reasonable effort the last matches since Valencia day, when he really had a walkfest.

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