Alonso doesn't like 4-3-3

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Alonso doesn't like 4-3-3

Post by Onyx on Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:40 pm

According to El Pais, Alonso dislikes the 4-3-3 and thinks the tactics are outdated. He thinks it won't work against big teams. Pepe and Ramos agree with him.

Can anyone else translate the rest of this?

http://deportes.elpais.com/deportes/2014/03/21/actualidad/1395433899_528944.html

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Re: Alonso doesn't like 4-3-3

Post by terrance511 on Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:32 pm

any1 care to explain how is it outdated?

don't think 4-2-3-1 would suit modric and 'reinvented' dimaria Very Happy
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Re: Alonso doesn't like 4-3-3

Post by sportsczy on Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:43 pm

Except that Bayern, Barca and Juve all play variants of 3-man mid setups Laughing Nice going Alonso, Pepe and Ramos Laughing Laughing

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Re: Alonso doesn't like 4-3-3

Post by Vibe on Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:04 pm

Freaking Madrid divas.Real will never go back to winning ways with these people around...

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Re: Alonso doesn't like 4-3-3

Post by Onyx on Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:18 pm

Alonso just doesn't like being the lone DM, which sounds reasonable considering he isn't a DM anyway. Plus there's no outright ballwinner. Not to mention the wingers track back inconsistently, which means the team is exposed at times. However none of that means the formation is outdated, it just needs a few tactical adjustments.

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Re: Alonso doesn't like 4-3-3

Post by Onyx on Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:32 pm

If Xabi has a cold, Real Madrid sneezes. This was visible at the beginning of the season, when 'Los Blancos' played their first months without the Spaniard, and is showing the same signs now, with the midfielder's poor performances. Two mediocre games by the player, two defeats.

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Xabi came back from his time recovering from his injury against Sevilla at the Bernabéu and Real went on to string together 31 games without losing. This was the 'Alonso effect', which has petered out with the player's drop in energy. Of the 31 undefeated games, Xabi took part in 29 of them, making him an indispensable part of the team.

He even played in the somewhat unimportant return game against Schalke 04, and it seems to have taken its toll on the player. Against Barça, he committed a totally unnecessary foul and made a fair few mistakes getting the ball out of defence. Against Sevilla, the situation was much the same, losing the ball that led to the Andalusian setup's draw.

The numbers don't lie. Against Barç, Xabi only came into contact with the ball 39 times - one of his all-time lowest participations. The player seemed absent, unfocused, disconnected. Against Sevilla, he lost possession more than ever.

His average poor pass rate so far this season stands at 12%, while at the Pizjuán it was 16%, losing 12 of the 76 balls he played. One of them cost his team dearly.

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Re: Alonso doesn't like 4-3-3

Post by sportsczy on Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:39 pm

Alonso doesn't play DM in the 433. He's the deep playing mid... like Pirlo, Motta, De Rossi, etc. Carlo plays Di Maria as the left B2B and Modric as the right B2B.

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Re: Alonso doesn't like 4-3-3

Post by Onyx on Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:51 pm

Yeh but when the team is defending he's taking on the job of a DM who plays in front of the back 4 and in recent games he hasn't handled it well. Plus when we play possession sides, he's basically a DM because he doesn't get time to do his thing.

Long term it might be a better idea to have a natural ballwinning DM with a bit of passing skills in that position.

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