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Post by Onyx on Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:01 pm



Barcelona vs Real Madrid discussion.

Copa del Rey Final 2014.

Wednesday 16th April.




H2H Past 5 meetings:

League - Home: 23rd March 2014 - Real Madrid 3-4 Barcelona

League - Away: 26th October 2013 - Barcelona 2-1 Real Madrid

League - Home: 2nd March 2013 - Real Madrid 2-1 Barcelona

Copa del Rey - Away: 26th February 2013 - Barcelona 1-3 Real Madrid

Copa del Rey - Home: 30th January 2013 - Real Madrid 1-1 Barcelona



Injuries/Suspensions:

Barcelona: Valdes, Pique and dos Santos.

Real Madrid: Marcelo, Khedira, Jese and Ronaldo.


Barcelona Copa del Rey results:

Semi-final:

Barcelona 2-0 Real Sociedad
Real Sociedad 1-1 Barcelona

Quarter-final:

Levante 1-4 Barcelona
Barcelona 5-1 Levante

Last 16:

Barcelona 4-0 Getafe
Getafe 0-2 Barcelona

Last 32:

Cartagena 1-4 Barcelona
Barcelona 3-0 Cartagena


Recent form

Barcelona: LLWDW
Real Madrid: WLWWW


Real Madrid players called up:

Goalkeepers : Casillas, Diego Lopez and Jesus.
Defenders : Sergio Ramos, Pepe, Varane, Carvajal, Coentrao, Nacho and Llorente.
Midfielders : Xabi Alonso, Illarra, Isco, Bale, Casemiro, Modric and Di Maria.
Forwards: Benzema, Morata and Willian José




Real Madrid predicted lineup:

---------------Casillas
---Carvajal--Pepe---Ramos---Coentrao
------ --Modric--Alonso-Isco
---------Bale-----------Di Maria
---------------Benzema



Ancelotti pre match:

"Real Madrid take on Barcelona in the Mestalla in the final of the Copa del Rey and Carlo Ancelotti spoke to the press before the game, regarding which he said the following: “When you play in a final you cannot lose and we have to do everything to win it. In a final anything can happen and we hope to be the best”. He recognised that “Di María will play” and regarding Illarra or Isco in the starting line-up, he revealed: “I have decided, but I'm not going to say”.

“It's a final. We are not approaching it with the intention of blocking out the other team, which is very strong. We're going to try and play our own game with our quality and our brand of football. We've worked all year to try and play in a certain way and we'll try and do it tomorrow. It is the only solution we have to winning this final”.

The two league matches against Barcelona
“In the second game in the Bernabéu we played very well. We competed well, we were winning and we made small mistakes. We have to concentrate throughout the match. I'm very happy with the second match against Barcelona and we have to do this throughout the 90 minutes. We've looked at the defensive errors we've made and we have worked towards eradicating them for tomorrow”.

The tactical approach
“The goal is to work as a unit. We train for that. There is no problem motivating the players for tomorrow, they are very excited. I can see a lot of desire in this game. I think we have planned well for it and I'm sure we're going to play well. We try to defend together. The best defensive work is a collaboration between players. Sacrifice and good defensive organisation. We do not have a specific marking plan for Messi”.
WE HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN THIS TEAM, WHICH HAS ALWAYS RESPONDED WELL TO ABSENTEES.
“This morning I found out that Cristiano Ronaldo will not be there. We're missing a lot of players but I think we can play very well. We're losing a player of enormous quality. But the team has always responded well when Ronaldo is out, which motivates everyone. We have played the matches without him very well by working harder, running harder and playing together”.

Quality on the pitch
“The team's approach is the same with or without Ronaldo. It's a final and we have to do our own thing. Obviously we have to consider the quality of the opposing team but the plan for the match is to try and get all of our quality on the pitch. The decision is that he is not available to play because it is a risk to put him on the field. We still have very important matches this season. He will be working tomorrow and then he'll go to Valencia to watch the final”.

“Ronaldo has not rested because he was not in a position to rest. We have not seen any signs of a tired player. If he were, he would not have played. Ronaldo has reached a time in the season that many players reach. We were careful with Cristiano as we have always tried to be careful with all the players”.

Barcelona's latest match
“It is a team that continues to work well and in recent matches it has dominated possession of the ball, which is its most significant quality. To win this match we have to prevent this and get our own possession of the ball. We have to consider the opposing team's possession is very good”.

A new Clásico
“All matches against Barcelona are important. It's a Clásico and that makes it even more important tomorrow. It is the first final we have, we are aiming for two more titles and we hope to win it”.
“At the moment I'm very happy because I am lucky enough to be one of the key men in the match. I have a great team and I'm very happy. I hope to feel the same tomorrow after the match”."


Prediction:

Barcelona 2-2 Real Madrid


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Re: Copa del Rey: *El Clasico* Barcelona vs Real Madrid discussion

Post by FalcaoPunch on Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:24 pm

Keep Di Maria in the mid Ancelotti. Don't effin "experiment" in this game.

Illar shouldn't start and Isco should play LW. Because the few times bale has been on the left he's been shit.
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Post by LeVersacci on Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:35 pm

Isco-Benz-Bale
Di Maria-Alonso-Modric
Coentrao-Varane-Ramos/Pepe-Carvajal
------------Casillas

subs: Morata & Casemiro

Carlo pls

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Post by Zealous on Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:37 pm

Our best chance at silverware imo since it's a final and anyone can win.

If we don't win any trophies this year then Carlo out imo.

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Post by Mamad on Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:46 pm

Carlo is going to play Di Maria in the wing. He did it in last two games and it's a reasonable decision. he is much faster than Isco and is a better winger.

My prediction :

Di Maria/Benz/Bale
Illara/Alonso/Modric
Coentrao/Ramos/Pepe/Carvajal
Casillas

but i hope he plays Varane. Messi will shat his pants if he sees varane there. d.
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Post by Zealous on Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:27 pm

Isco deserves to start if you ask me.

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Post by halamadrid2 on Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:30 pm

I dont see the reason to tinker with the line up. Just swap Isco for Ronaldo and be done with it. Knowing Carlo he is going to play Dimaria RW and Isco CM. If we had Jese available we wouldn't even be having this discussion right now No animo jese
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Post by FalcaoPunch on Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:33 pm

@Zealous wrote:Isco deserves to start if you ask me.

This. But knowing Carlo and his absolute desire to switch up what's working I doubt we will see Isco in the starting lineup.

Probably will be:

Illara-Alonso-Modric
Di Maria-Benzema-Bale
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Post by halamadrid2 on Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:41 pm

After Illara's stinker against Dortmund, doubt Carlo will trust him

Isco started the first leg against Dortmund in midfield over Illara, no reason why he won't do it again
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Post by Onyx on Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:18 pm

Illarramendi should never start at RCM/LCM again, only CDM.

Isco's done well recently when he's played CM. Di Maria at LW can trouble Barca with his dribbling and pace like last time.

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Post by Onyx on Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:27 pm

Iker Casillas had the following to say about the final: “The side have had a great Copa and we want to put the icing on the cake in Valencia. It will be a vibrant game, with great players and we are confident that we can win and in our way of playing. We believe that we can do it”.

“The job that the side has to do is what we've been doing all season. Eight months ago we wanted to be in the fight for every title and we are on the right lines. We are in a final, a Champions League semi-final and in the league we will fight until the end to win it. Now the focus is on this final, we are approaching it with the same desire we have had so far”.

Absentees for Real Madrid
“It's not just Ronaldo, but all the players who aren't available: Jesé, Arbeloa, Marcelo, Cristiano... But it's not worth thinking about those who can't play, we must think about those who can and those who the boss thinks are the most suitable and the best team to win the title. It would be great if we could have the whole squad, but because of the issue with the schedule, injuries take their toll at certain points of the season and that is what is happening to us now”.

The cup win in 2011
“I remember it as a vibrant and attractive game, and a very passionate one with two sides battling it out for the title. We had a tough season with a defeat in the Camp Nou and it spurred us on to win the Copa. It was a great game and I would not change a thing. Everyone enjoyed the match and celebrated it”.
WE HAVE TO FORGET ABOUT WHAT HAS GONE BEFORE AND WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE AND ONLY FOCUS ON THE FINAL.
“Personally I'm not buying into Barcelona's last week, despite the defeats in La Liga and the Champions League. Things are different for both sides, and anything can happen in a final. We are on a good run and we're trying to get back into the fight for the league, but that has nothing to do with tomorrow”.

Confidence for the final
“The side is ready. Maybe we didn't have good results against big sides and at key moments, but the league is a tournament in which you play 19 other sides. The side is solid”.

Mateu Lahoz
“He's a good referee, I've always thought so, he does things his way and his style is different, he is a ref who lets you play. I have nothing to say about referees and I'm not going to make negative comments, quite the opposite. I am not going to fight the same war every year”.

Headlines
“I don't like to hog the headlines. But I understand that being at Real Madrid means you are a point of opinion and you have to cope with it. I'm not complaining. I don't like it and it would be great if everything went well tomorrow and all the Madrid fans and the whole team were on the front pages. I think we deserve that headline for the season we're having”.

The oppositions' performances
“I'm not going to worry about how Messi is playing. I'm worried about my own men, which is the most important thing. There is no need for us to worry about our rivals (...) the gaffer is approaching the match to win it. We cannot speculate or look back thinking that we have lost the league. It's a different match and what we and the gaffer have to do is approach it so that what happens tomorrow benefits Madrid”.

His statements regarding Busquets
“I already spoke about that the other day. I'm not going to get into it again. If I said something the other day, I don't care if someone has responded. I'm not going to add fuel to the fire and create more debate”.

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Post by shadexticos on Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:15 pm

am so excited and cofident going into this match.
for the first time in a while, i have confidence going into this match
i believe we are going to see one of the best clasico performance from madrid.
the only fear i have going in this match is that varane would not play.

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Post by Onyx on Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:27 pm


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Post by izzy on Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:38 pm

If Bale and Benzema (especially Bale) can't slay a back-line consisting of this;

Alves---Mascherano----Adriano----Alba

Both need to really check themselves. Laughing
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Post by halamadrid2 on Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:01 pm

Think Bale can get the better of Adriano with his speed when he cuts in. He just needs to come down and demand the ball when he doesn't see it. If our game against Almeria is anything to go by we will start DiMaria as RW. Alba won't be much of use for him because he always cuts in, this is where I can see us having an advantage, especially with dimarias speed and trickery against busquets and adriano

Benz will probably bully them like he always does and Bale will run against Alves, Alves usually has problems with out and out wingers as opposed to Alba who has the speed to recover, ideally Bale should be able to get past him. With isco on that side always wanting the ball, can't see bale being able to shy away from the occasion by hiding

It's not only us though, Barca are starting their best front six with xaviestquets midfield and neymar, messi and alexis in attack, the amount of off the ball runs will go into overdrive, it's paramount that pepe and ramos don't run up to pressure messi because as usual he will get out of it. We need brains not recklessness. Xabi has become like them these days, he used to always mind his own business and use his experiences to block off passing lanes, he plays like an older version of Arbeloa now. We can't afford another one to become that reckless

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Post by Zealous on Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:20 pm

Marca reporting that Di Maria will play in Ronaldo's position and Isco will play in midfield.

AKA Ancelotti refuses to win big games this season. rofl

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Post by Onyx on Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:45 pm

Di Maria did well whenever he went out to the left last Clasico, so he should be fine. Plus Isco's been impressive at CM recently.

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Post by Zealous on Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:51 pm

You're not wrong but Di Maria has played in midfield for most of the season. Playing him as a winger all of a sudden is typical tinkering and fixing what isn't broken.

Isco is more dangerous in Ronaldo's position than he is in midfield as well.

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Post by halamadrid2 on Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:57 pm

Marca don't know anything about us these days.

Regardless, we have got players out there who can just switch positions if it doesn't work out. With Illarra that would have been impossible. Hence why we only got better after Isco came on against Dortmund

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Post by Doc on Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:52 pm

We need guile more than speed anyway since Alves (and Alba) have the fitness to keep up so yeah, Isco in CR's position would be most ideal.

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Post by Onyx on Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:24 pm

Starting 11:

Pinto; Alves, Mascherano, Bartra, Alba; Sergio Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta; Neymar, Cesc, Messi

Casillas, Carvajal, Pepe, Ramos, Coentrao, Modric, Xabi, Di Maria, Bale, Benzema, Isco.

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Post by Le Samourai on Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:28 pm

Are we conserving energy with Bayern in mind or something?

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Post by izzy on Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:35 pm

@Le Samourai wrote:Are we conserving energy with Bayern in mind or something?

Nah, the midfielders literally have no one up front to pass to so pressure can be relieved.

It's just Di Maria running from deep and Bale and Benzema hanging out wide, no runs into space or in behind the fullbacks.

This was to be expected, but here's hoping we can still pull this off.
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Post by M99 on Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:25 pm

Congrats Madrid fans Thumbs up

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Post by guest7 on Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:27 pm

Benzema with another Zidane performance

I dont mean it in a good way, the guy just straight up refuses to make runs towards goal Laughing

Got to give creds though, excellent link up play and overall game. But he seriously needs to become a goal threath too

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