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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:56 pm

Isn't volante more of a brazilian term?

and BC what's the diff between enganche and TQ?

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Post by Robespierre on Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:59 pm

yes volante is not used in Italy as term....maybe this is what we call " mediano" ( =DM) ? or mezz ala ( internal midfielder ) ?
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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:08 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:Isn't volante more of a brazilian term?

and BC what's the diff between enganche and TQ?
Enganche is basically TQ, it means "to hook together" and referred to the playmaker. Riquelme and Maradona were both called enganches.

Volante is used in spanish to refer to any midfielder, usually out wide if used alone (DMs are called pivotes, like in English, or just 5s, although sometimes the term "volante de contencion" can be used). Not sure if the use is any different in Brazil.


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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:14 pm

then i think volante is a very south american term. From my experience with spanish medias, i can't recall them using "volante" to describe outfielders.

the CAM is mediapunta, wingers are extremos, etc...

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:26 pm

Yes that sounds correct, although you'll find that it varies significantly from country to country. In argentina it's very common to just call each position by the numbers, which are different numbers in Brazil.

Argentina:

1-GK
2-CB
3-LB
4-RB
5-DM/CM
6-CB
7-Winger (right)
8-Winger (right)
9-CF
10-CAM
11-CF/Winger

Of course this doesn't always apply in reality because you would have to play like a 4-3-1-2 to match perfectly but if you say 4 it's understood to be RB by nearly everyone, and likewise with the defensive ones, the 5, 9 and 10.

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Post by Red Alert on Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:59 pm

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:10 pm

Mancini [Inter's coach]: We're sad to let Kovacic go but we were forced due to Finacial Fair Play.

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Post by RealGunner on Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:04 pm

Somehow FFP only applies to poor clubs
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Post by Onyx on Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:16 pm

86 potential ffs. Great signing as 6th choice CM backup.
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Post by Casciavit on Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:25 pm

Will be glad to take him on loan after 2 years of getting benched.
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Post by Robespierre on Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:30 pm

@RealGunner wrote:Somehow FFP only applies to poor clubs


Exactly what I said to Urban Roots.
Simply we are finished.
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Post by Doc on Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:30 am

Inter Milan being "poor" is something that really is odd for this long time lover of Serie A to grasp. Also, Madrid signing Kovacic really was very left field.

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Post by chad4401 on Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:40 am

kovacic looks a good back up for modric and can give him plenty of rest, i just hope if he is meh for a couple months, he gets the same treatment as other players(he won't Proud).

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Post by Munchie89 on Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:41 am

Well Inter have only been signing players so far, now someone with a price has to leave.
And if they are really selling Kovacic for 35 mlns we have to clap our hands, in my opinion it's a great market transfer.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:56 am

Mancini is hilarious blaming ffp, he signed Kondogbia for 40 mil Laughing he basically made the choice to sell Kovacic at that point. He likes one over the other, no point acting like a lost lamb now that they found a buyer

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Post by Rebaño Sagrado on Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:02 am

He's a scrub, ill say it now.

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Post by Robespierre on Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:08 am

I am curious to watch how much he will pay in Real tbh hmm
They have so many top quality midfielders hmm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:Mancini is hilarious blaming ffp, he signed Kondogbia for 40 mil Laughing he basically made the choice to sell Kovacic at that point. He likes one over the other, no point acting like a lost lamb now that they found a buyer


30+ 6 of bonus :coffee:
I don't know what is the best ( or worst ?.) deal tbh , Kondogbia performed in Champions League against Arsenal etc surely they are 2 different players , he would have kept both if he could , but he can't for FFP.
Other clubs can keep him as 6th CM, a beautiful sport
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Post by chad4401 on Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:21 am

i know your not being serious but kovacic is clearly modric back up, so he is instantly gonna be in the roation, illarra is likely an alternative to casemiro off the bench.

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Post by jibers on Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:23 am

Looks like Illarascrubmendi is off to Liverpool. That kid has just wasted his career Laughing

Kovacic is 5 times the player so smart move from Madrid.

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Post by Robespierre on Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:24 am

why wasn't I serious ? Laughing
Okay , Modric should help him.
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I hope he will be great in Madrid , but you should be patient with him because he must still mature, expecially temperamentally ...
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Post by chad4401 on Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:31 am

@Robespierre wrote:why wasn't I serious ? Laughing
Okay , Modric should help him.
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I hope he will be great in Madrid , but you should be patient with him because he must still mature, expecially temperamentally ...


no worries even if he is meh madrid fans have no prob pretending he is motm, just look at isco at cm or lucas silva classics Proud.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:43 am

@Robespierre wrote:I am curious to watch how much he will pay in Real tbh hmm
They have so many top quality midfielders hmm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:Mancini is hilarious blaming ffp, he signed Kondogbia for 40 mil Laughing he basically made the choice to sell Kovacic at that point. He likes one over the other, no point acting like a lost lamb now that they found a buyer


30+ 6 of bonus :coffee:
I don't know what is the best ( or worst ?.) deal tbh , Kondogbia performed in Champions League against Arsenal etc surely they are 2 different players , he would have kept both if he could , but he can't for FFP.
Other clubs can keep him as 6th CM, a beautiful sport


well, Mancini is the club manager, he knows the finances of the club well, he knew what he was doing from day one. Sure he would have loved to get both in a perfect universe, but he knew it would come down to this.

Kovacic comes in as Modric immediate understudy and back up. We have no other player in the squad that's like Modric so it's a smart move. Modric is growing older and his fitness is in question moving forward.

Ladst season we had no one at the club like Casemiro and Kovacic, they will be huge help.

Illarramendi immediately becomes irrelevant, 5th man in rotation. He can stay on the squad posing in batman costumes or leave

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Post by chad4401 on Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:48 am

already setting the tone love it Proud.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:50 am

So what's this.

Perez can't find a big name to sign and instead pours crazy money on a semi scrub from Inter's bench?

What are they going to do, write 'Verratti' on his jersey and tell him to try to look smaller?

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:33 am

This kid really has the best youtube compils, bah gawd

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Post by Freeza on Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:35 am

Can't wait for another player to get blamed for Benzema's bad performances

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