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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by Juveman17 on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:35 pm

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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by sportsczy on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:40 pm

Marchisio didn't get unfairly sent out.  You lead with the studs high, you are eligible to get a red.  If it looks unintentional and you try to remove your foot at the last minute, it becomes a yellow.  But Marchisio knew exactly what he was doing as both the ball+ opponent were in front of him and he kicked out no less...  it's a red card.  It was clearly intentional.

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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by Lord Spencer on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:41 pm

Anyways.

Congratulations to Costa Rica and Uruguay for reaching the next round. Especially Costa Rica, who are the surprise of this tourney.

Italy not only needs to go back to the drawing board. They need to go back to the bloody stone slab days. Because the system in Italy as a whole is bogus now.
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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by izzy on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:42 pm

@Lord Spencer wrote:Please explain how it is a red then!

Marchisio stomped the player while he had his back to the player. He was in motion, and couldn't see if his leg was in his movement path.

In fact, the only reason it was, is because the player fell down in the first place. The stomp was during play, while Marchisio had no reason to stomp into the player to gain any advantage. He was chasing after the ball, and he stomped him while doing a roullete.


I don't think it was a stomp.

Marchisio came in very hard, right at the shins. It didn't really look like he was going for the ball.

I would of given it.
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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by Robespierre on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:43 pm

Except me , arquitescu, tom , juveman , ES , flameas and forgive me if I forgot some other he whole Goallegacy will be glad for it, all supported against Italy on chat lol

Awful WC from us. Awful . No excuses. We could win just against England Laughing

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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by Tomwin Lannister on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:45 pm

Prandelli has to go, can't even win a single friendly in 9 months. Used just about every formation in the book and never sticks to any one way of playing. Only team at the WC to be experimenting during the actual tournament.

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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by Cruijf on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:45 pm

Marchisio's tackle was reckless, nothing more. No violent conduct, no intentional use of excessive force, it's a very clear yellow.

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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by hrealmadrid on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:45 pm

Anytime you go in studs up like that and stomp on the player you're asking to be sent off. He was also right in front of the ref, couldn't have made it any more obvious
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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by Lord Spencer on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:46 pm

@sportsczy wrote:Marchisio didn't get unfairly sent out.  You lead with the studs high, you are eligible to get a red.  If it looks unintentional and you try to remove your foot at the last minute, it becomes a yellow.  But Marchisio knew exactly what he was doing as both the ball+ opponent were in front of him and he kicked out no less...  it's a red card.  It was clearly intentional.


According to BeIN sport refereeing experts, it is not a red in any sphere. In fact, the stomp happened while Marchisio had his back to the other player. He was not leading with his studs high, as he was going for a roullete and was using his back to block the other player.

This is the first time I see a dribbling player get a red. BeIN in all languages are laughing at the decision.
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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by Juveman17 on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:46 pm

@Lord Spencer wrote:
@sportsczy wrote:Marchisio didn't get unfairly sent out.  You lead with the studs high, you are eligible to get a red.  If it looks unintentional and you try to remove your foot at the last minute, it becomes a yellow.  But Marchisio knew exactly what he was doing as both the ball+ opponent were in front of him and he kicked out no less...  it's a red card.  It was clearly intentional.


According to BeIN sport refereeing experts, it is not a red in any sphere. In fact, the stomp happened while Marchisio had his back to the other player. He was not leading with his studs high, as he was going for a roullete and was using his back to block the other player.

This is the first time I see a dribbling player get a red. BeIN in all languages are laughing at the decision.


Exactly. Awful call.

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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by Tomwin Lannister on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:47 pm

Where is this 'stomp' BS coming from

He never 'stomped' anybody

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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by Zealous on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:48 pm

Intention has nothing to do with red cards anymore guys.

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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by httredskins47 on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:50 pm

People see what they want to see, Saurez won't get banned because there is no proof.

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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by sportsczy on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:50 pm

Bein Sport in France think it's a red...  a tough red.  But definitely not a drama according to the crew there.  L'Equipe 21 thinks it's a clear red. I don't think you should generalize when you've only clearly seen your local Bein broadcast LS.


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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by Robespierre on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:51 pm

Marchisio is a player very correct , and infact it was absurd to think he had done something of disgraceful ... then I saw the replay, and well , I wouldn't have him sent off . for me it is never red card.
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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by sportsczy on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:52 pm

@httredskins47 wrote:People see what they want to see, Saurez won't get banned because there is no proof.

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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by VendettaRed07 on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:52 pm

I looked to me like he was just trying to change direction and go the other way and didn't realize the position of the other player's leg. I don't get how it is a red.

Like, how was Balotelli's jump and kneeing someone in the back of the head a yellow, and then that challenge a red. What kind of nonsense is that lol. Not saying Balotelli's challenge was a red.. but in the world where that is yellow, Marchisio's challenge is yellow as well, surely.

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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by Lord Spencer on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:53 pm

@sportsczy wrote:Bein Sport in France think it's a red...  a tough red.  But definitely not a drama according to the crew there.  L'Equipe 21 thinks it's a clear red. I don't think you should generalize when you've only clearly seen your local Bein broadcast LS.


I am seeing BeIN Arabic, and English. It was the BeIN arabic host that said other BeIN refereeing experts agree with him.
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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by RealGunner on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:53 pm

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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by Juveman17 on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:54 pm

@httredskins47 wrote:People see what they want to see, Saurez won't get banned because there is no proof.


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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by sportsczy on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:55 pm

Actually, the Balotelli foul deserved a red too. The problem Marchisio had was the the ref was standing a meter away looking straight at the play...

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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by Kaladin on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:57 pm

That moment when you realize that Allegri could be one of the candidates for the Italy job

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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by Juveman17 on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:59 pm

ITS OFFICIAL:

[BREAKING] Prandelli: "I've failed, therefore, I decided to resign."

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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by Casciavit on Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:02 pm

FIGC president Abete has resigned as well.

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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by Lord Spencer on Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:03 pm

Prandelli improved Italy going on from the shambles of 2010, but left them right back where they were in 2014.

His choices and frankly shambolic defensive set up is the major reason Italy are out now. However, besides Carlo, Italian coaches in general look ancient in football. Italy in general are not looking well at all as a footballing nation.
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Re: World Cup: Group D discussion

Post by 1991 on Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:05 pm

@Juveman17 wrote:ITS OFFICIAL:

[BREAKING] Prandelli: "I've failed, therefore, I decided to resign."
 Thumbs up If only Hodgson had these balls.

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