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Post by VivaStPauli Thu May 29, 2014 4:46 pm

Our defensive frailties are due to Löws shit system, we were fine in 2010 when we countered.

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Post by urbaNRoots Thu May 29, 2014 7:24 pm

Forget what I said, Khedira injured himself today in training Sad

Brace yourselves for Lahm in midfield.....
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Post by M99 Thu May 29, 2014 7:37 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:Forget what I said, Khedira injured himself today in training Sad

Brace yourselves for Lahm in midfield.....


Boateng in RB then? Mertesacker and Hummels CB?
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu May 29, 2014 7:41 pm

Eh? Doesn't sound like he's injured.
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Post by urbaNRoots Thu May 29, 2014 7:57 pm

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http://www.bundesliga.de/de/wettbewerbe/nationalmannschaft/news/2013/khedira-nach-zusammenprall-behandelt-dfb-team.php

Khedira confirmed later he's fine, but will still have some tests as it was his right knee again.

If Lahm goes in midfield, then Großkreutz plays RB.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu May 29, 2014 8:04 pm

Now wait a minute, I have to start thinking about this now - Lars Bender is out, right. So did Jogi renominate Sven, or is Sven also still out?
Does that mean we have none of the Bender twins, no Gündogan, plus Schweini and Khedira less than fit?

Lol.

I never really made it clear to myself what's going on. We are a bit *bleep*.
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Post by urbaNRoots Thu May 29, 2014 8:14 pm

I think Khedira will be fine but Schweini worries me, not only fitness wise but his form has been alarming too. As one of the leaders, I hope he steps up his game at the right time, just as a leader would because he's needed now. Can't afford more injuries in midfield though, as we'd be left with Lahm, Kroos and Kramer.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu May 29, 2014 8:15 pm

wait Sven Bender is not injured anymore right.

why isn't Jogi taking him :facepalm:

taking him to the :facepalm: I mean

and what's with Neustädter?

Jogi can't possibly want to play with a kid from Gladbach without any big game experience?!?!?!
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu May 29, 2014 8:16 pm

sorry for my rambling.

I honestly haven't spent much thought on the :facepalm: yet, and I'm just now trying to figure things out.
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Post by urbaNRoots Thu May 29, 2014 8:20 pm

Kramer >>> Neustädter imo, can't fault him there but yeah not taking Manni Bender is a bit silly.

Ginter can also play DM very well, and with his defensive tendency I'd feel a lot more comfortable on counter attacks with him. But Löw likes to live dangerously, Lahm/Kroos - Schweinsteiger/Khedira Proud
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu May 29, 2014 8:22 pm

why not Bender? Seriously WHY?!?!

Neustädter at least has CL experience though
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu May 29, 2014 8:27 pm

I mean that's the point of having twins after all. If one is out, there's still the other one.
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Post by rwo power Thu May 29, 2014 11:01 pm

Well, AFAIK Sven Bender had a pubic bone inflammation for at least 3 months or so - dunno how fit he is. And remember Ilkay Gündogan - inflammations are less easy to treat than injuries with ligaments and stuff.
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Post by VivaStPauli Fri May 30, 2014 2:04 am

Yeah I was under the impression that Manni Bender is, if not injured, at least compromised, as well.
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Post by LuckAndWin Fri May 30, 2014 7:18 am

I hope it will Germany and Portugal, it feels like when these two clubs meet it will be the same like the UEFA Champions League where Bayern Munchen collide with Real Madrid, nonetheless they have something. They could show us more and more.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri May 30, 2014 8:32 am

right. he played very little this season too, I guess.

Oh well. Kramer it is lol.
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Post by rwo power Fri May 30, 2014 10:13 am

Well, that will possibly leave the double Bender as secret weapon for the coming Euro ^^
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Post by Toffer Harley Fri May 30, 2014 12:48 pm

müller
reus özil götze
kroos khedira
durm hummels boateng lahm
neuer

fap worthy team and in my eyes the only meanigful lineup. sadly löw won't play like this of course...
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Post by McLewis Sat May 31, 2014 1:07 pm

The more I look at the 4-4-2 diamond Klinsmann's trying to pull off, the more nonsensical it looks to me in a group like the one USA are in.

Going to be watching Netherlands-Ghana with some interest. Really looking for Turkey to get at USA's jugular as well. Need to see what these guys are made up.
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Sat May 31, 2014 4:02 pm

I love how 90% of comments here think Ghana will not make it.....

though am on both sides (USA et Ghana) I find it funny how US fans believe Ghana will be a walk in the park.... surely USA's big time nemesis at the world cup shouldn't be considered a walk in the park at all......

that aside, I don't really trust our coach (first local based coach to handle the Black Stars in a world cup)

not that I don't trust local coaches its just that Kwesi Appiah Is too inexperienced and tactically not smart if you ask me.....
choice of first choice goalkeeper still baffles many....
a goalie that is error prone from long range shots and with the likes f Germany and Portugal we'll be receiving many those Laughing

Our main strength has always been our teamwork and midfield........
but with the likes of Essien and Muntari ageing it will be quite a thing to watch....

still Kwadwo Asamoah, Agyemang Badu, KPB and Ayew we should be good...

our attack this year is also good, Asamoah Gyan can still flash quality when you least expect.... Jordan Ayew is still around and also Chelsea owned Christian Atsu who has vast potential and is very skilled.....also there is this new striker who plays for France (name forgotten) who is also held in high.....
and then speedy Wakaso who can be deployed on the wings should need be.... KPB can also play attack also....

our defence is what remains my headache with not much to say about really, and if the opposition focuses attacks and pins us back then am afraid of the consequences......

the game against USA will decide how both teams will stand in the group cos I can see both Ghana and USA beating Portugal if they are highly motivated....
but that motivation will stem from the game against each other....
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Post by Pedram Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:15 pm

A traditional priest from Ghana has said that he is behind Cristiano Ronaldo’s injury problems, which “can never be cured by any medic”.

The Real Madrid and Portugal star is suffering from tendonitis and is set to miss out on his country’s pre-World Cup friendlies against Mexico and Ireland, though Nana Kwaku Bonsam, who describes himself as a traditional priest, has claimed responsibility for the Ballon d’Or winner’s plight, which he has claimed to be “spiritual”.

“I know what Cristiano Ronaldo’s injury is about, I’m working on him,” the witchdoctor told Ghanaian radio station Angel FM.

“I am very serious about it. Last week, I went around looking for four dogs and I got them to be used in manufacturing a special spirit called ‘Kahwiri Kapam’.

“I said it four months ago that I will work on Cristiano Ronaldo and rule him out of the World Cup or at least prevent him from playing against Ghana and the best thing I can do is to keep him out though injury.

“This injury can never be cured by any medic, they can never see what is causing the injury because it is spiritual. Today, it is his knee, tomorrow it is thigh, next day it is something else.”

Ghana are due to play Portugal on June 26 in Brasilia, in what will be their final match of Group G, which also includes Germany and USA.

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Post by McLewis Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:57 pm

elm_baraja_shaman wrote:I love how 90% of comments here think Ghana will not make it.....

though am on both sides (USA et Ghana) I find it funny how US fans believe Ghana will be a walk in the park.... surely USA's big time nemesis at the world cup shouldn't be considered a walk in the park at all......

that aside, I don't really trust our coach (first local based coach to handle the Black Stars in a world cup)

not that I don't trust local coaches its just that Kwesi Appiah Is too inexperienced and tactically not smart if you ask me.....
choice of first choice goalkeeper still baffles many....
a goalie that is error prone from long range shots and with the likes f Germany and Portugal we'll be receiving many those Laughing

Our main strength has always been our teamwork and midfield........
but with the likes of Essien and Muntari ageing it will be quite a thing to watch....

still Kwadwo Asamoah, Agyemang Badu, KPB and Ayew we should be good...

our attack this year is also good, Asamoah Gyan can still flash quality when you least expect.... Jordan Ayew is still around and also Chelsea owned Christian Atsu who has vast potential and is very skilled.....also there is this new striker who plays for France (name forgotten) who is also held in high.....
and then speedy Wakaso who can be deployed on the wings should need be.... KPB can also play attack also....

our defence is what remains my headache with not much to say about really, and if the opposition focuses attacks and pins us back then am afraid of the consequences......

the game against USA will decide how both teams will stand in the group cos I can see both Ghana and USA beating Portugal if they are highly motivated....
but that motivation will stem from the game against each other....


Don't know what USA fans you've been talking with but the ones I converse with take Ghana very seriously as well they should considering how poor USA's defense is right now.

Despite that, I think Ghana is beatable if USA play smart, inventive attacking ball, but are tight and tactically astute defensively. If one or the other doesn't happen, it could be lights out.
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Post by BarcaLearning Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:25 am

Wondering whats the strongest lineup and that Lowe will go for? Will it really be Gozte or Muller up front and not Klose? How to intergrate Reus, Ozil together, do they gel? Is Podolski STILL first choice? I hope not, there are too many attacking talent to fit into a starting eleven it seems Razz
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Post by M99 Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:00 am

Pedram wrote:
A traditional priest from Ghana has said that he is behind Cristiano Ronaldo’s injury problems, which “can never be cured by any medic”.

The Real Madrid and Portugal star is suffering from tendonitis and is set to miss out on his country’s pre-World Cup friendlies against Mexico and Ireland, though Nana Kwaku Bonsam, who describes himself as a traditional priest, has claimed responsibility for the Ballon d’Or winner’s plight, which he has claimed to be “spiritual”.

“I know what Cristiano Ronaldo’s injury is about, I’m working on him,” the witchdoctor told Ghanaian radio station Angel FM.

“I am very serious about it. Last week, I went around looking for four dogs and I got them to be used in manufacturing a special spirit called ‘Kahwiri Kapam’.

“I said it four months ago that I will work on Cristiano Ronaldo and rule him out of the World Cup or at least prevent him from playing against Ghana and the best thing I can do is to keep him out though injury.

“This injury can never be cured by any medic, they can never see what is causing the injury because it is spiritual. Today, it is his knee, tomorrow it is thigh, next day it is something else.”

Ghana are due to play Portugal on June 26 in Brasilia, in what will be their final match of Group G, which also includes Germany and USA.

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Tell him to voodoo Ozil while he's at it.
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Post by rwo power Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:27 am

Well, knowing Jogi Löw, he will probably roll some dice to determine the final line-up.

In any case, I'm not really sure what's the strongest line-up myself, as with Germany often stronger players on paper don't deliver the strongest perfomance in the team and vice versa. (Just look at Özil, Poldi, Götze...)
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Post by VivaStPauli Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:49 am

I assume it will be Klose up front if at all possible.
I have yet to hear a reasonable explanation as to why we didn't take Kruse, but what the hell.

That being said, while discussing lineups, the obvious replacements for Klose, in my mind, are Podolski, Schürrle, Reus, and Müller, and even in that order.
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