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Post by futbol Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:10 am

Kick wrote:30m for Danilo? Laughing

He aint worth that.


Maybe we're valuing Tello @ 20M. Tello + € 10M. I'm in for that. hmm

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Post by Kick Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:25 am

Tello aint worth 20m Laughing
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Post by alexjanosik Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:45 am

free_cat wrote:
Donuts wrote:he can be our last resort defender.. he has high work rate and looks like a freaking beast for a kid who just turned 19
Spoiler:

our rb doesn't really have to be that great at defending anyways.. he's basically a right midfielder who attacks more then defends..

i mean we've played pedro there against psg.. and it seemed to work out Laughing


I really agree here. I hope someone converts Adama into a RB, I think he could shine there. He has the pace, quickness, dribling, and crossing skills to make him a world beater when attacking; and the pace, quickness, stamina, workrate and strength to be good enough when defending.

One punctualization, Pedro didn't really play as RB vs. PSG as we played with 3 CB and Pedro and Neymar in the wings.

yeah.I am not willing to take the risk that he flops,especially since we cant sign anyone.
The way Alves is playing,should get a deserved extension.Been absolutely brilliant and played great in all the Atletico games.Pressed like a maniac and has stolen countless balls.Also if we are going to continue playing with Messi on the wing,there is no one better than Alves for Messi to combine with.Their link up play has been sublime.

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Post by Donuts Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:38 am

dani alves is turning 32 in may..
he's asking for a three year extension according to rumors and it'd be dumb to give it to him
i believe he is also one of our top paid players, he's just trying to take advantage of our situation and it's completely understandable why we won't wanna give him more then 2 years extension.

he thinks he deserves to play for us till the age of 35 lol he's already massively declining i'm scared to see him in a year or two.
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Post by neuro11 Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:15 am

yeah, give him a 3 years contract so that he can have the opportunity to send all the crosses to the Atlantic for an extended period with the luxury of salary he is receiving now.

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Post by alexjanosik Sun Feb 08, 2015 6:33 am

Yeah,and lets get Piczek.The same guy who is fighting relegation right now.
There is no one better out there than Alves.

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Post by Donuts Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:00 am

so that must mean that gundogan / reus / hummels are also garbage because of where their team stands?
perfect logic :brickwall:

your worse then zubi if you believe giving a 32+ year old declining player high wages is a good idea.


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Post by alexjanosik Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:04 am

Reus is a scrub.I watch a lot of Dortmund.Reus is a counter attack specialist who will fail spectacularly with us.Average dribbler and average in tight spaces.Simply not good enough for us.Gundogan is another one season wonder.Not worth the risk especially after that injury.
The only Dortmund player I would take is Hummels.

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Post by Donuts Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:05 am

lol okay.. to each their own.
.. that awkward moment when reus has more goals then suarez in the same amount of apps in the league.. despite being in a relegation team


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Post by alexjanosik Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:07 am

What.Are you denying that Reus is a counter attack specialist and that his touch and dribbling is simply not good enough.
Guy is a glorified Pedro.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:14 pm

Alves won't sign a 1 year contract extension. He has all the leverage in the world considering the transfer ban. If I were him, I would ask for a salary equal to the one he is now getting at a 3+ year contract. I doubt any Barca president will want to meet that.
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Post by jibers Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:13 pm

alexjanosik wrote:
free_cat wrote:
Donuts wrote:he can be our last resort defender.. he has high work rate and looks like a freaking beast for a kid who just turned 19
Spoiler:

our rb doesn't really have to be that great at defending anyways.. he's basically a right midfielder who attacks more then defends..

i mean we've played pedro there against psg.. and it seemed to work out Laughing


I really agree here. I hope someone converts Adama into a RB, I think he could shine there. He has the pace, quickness, dribling, and crossing skills to make him a world beater when attacking; and the pace, quickness, stamina, workrate and strength to be good enough when defending.

One punctualization, Pedro didn't really play as RB vs. PSG as we played with 3 CB and Pedro and Neymar in the wings.

yeah.I am not willing to take the risk that he flops,especially since we cant sign anyone.
The way Alves is playing,should get a deserved extension.Been absolutely brilliant and played great in all the Atletico games.Pressed like a maniac and has stolen countless balls.Also if we are going to continue playing with Messi on the wing,there is no one better than Alves for Messi to combine with.Their link up play has been sublime.


This. No rb in the world would be a significant upgrade. Not even Lahm. Lahm is now ovverated. I never really understood the criticism ALves got tbh.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:16 pm

jibers wrote:
alexjanosik wrote:
free_cat wrote:


I really agree here. I hope someone converts Adama into a RB, I think he could shine there. He has the pace, quickness, dribling, and crossing skills to make him a world beater when attacking; and the pace, quickness, stamina, workrate and strength to be good enough when defending.

One punctualization, Pedro didn't really play as RB vs. PSG as we played with 3 CB and Pedro and Neymar in the wings.

yeah.I am not willing to take the risk that he flops,especially since we cant sign anyone.
The way Alves is playing,should get a deserved extension.Been absolutely brilliant and played great in all the Atletico games.Pressed like a maniac and has stolen countless balls.Also if we are going to continue playing with Messi on the wing,there is no one better than Alves for Messi to combine with.Their link up play has been sublime.


This. No rb in the world would be a significant upgrade. Not even Lahm. Lahm is now ovverated. I never really understood the criticism ALves got tbh.


I agree. If anything, Barca are missing a new Xavi. Too bad Aston Villa have snatched up Tom Cleverley hmm
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Post by Donuts Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:54 pm

the criticism i give alves is that he is asking for a three year contract on high wages
i think he makes if not more then ineista then equal..

he's 32 years old and his position is very demanding of physical shape, we need to move on from him or we'll have the same problem we had with puyol's absence and now xavi's
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Post by CBarca Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:00 pm

Thing is he's a physical freak and has showed next to zero signs of slowing down.
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Post by MaraVilla Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:17 pm

Cant wait till we buy Stones in 2016 Proud Molenation
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Post by free_cat Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:07 pm

CBarca wrote:Thing is he's a physical freak and has showed next to zero signs of slowing down.


You've got to be kidding. He is half the player he was before attacking wise. He used to score and assist around 20 goals per season and now it's 10 at most.

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free_cat wrote:
Donuts wrote:he can be our last resort defender.. he has high work rate and looks like a freaking beast for a kid who just turned 19
Spoiler:

our rb doesn't really have to be that great at defending anyways.. he's basically a right midfielder who attacks more then defends..

i mean we've played pedro there against psg.. and it seemed to work out Laughing


I really agree here. I hope someone converts Adama into a RB, I think he could shine there. He has the pace, quickness, dribling, and crossing skills to make him a world beater when attacking; and the pace, quickness, stamina, workrate and strength to be good enough when defending.

One punctualization, Pedro didn't really play as RB vs. PSG as we played with 3 CB and Pedro and Neymar in the wings.

yeah.I am not willing to take the risk that he flops,especially since we cant sign anyone.
The way Alves is playing,should get a deserved extension.Been absolutely brilliant and played great in all the Atletico games.Pressed like a maniac and has stolen countless balls.Also if we are going to continue playing with Messi on the wing,there is no one better than Alves for Messi to combine with.Their link up play has been sublime.


Not to play directly as starter. Just introduce him into the position and if he accomodates well, we've got our Alves replacement. Ideally, Alves should renew for another season, but if he wants 3 more seasons on high wages, he can leave IMO. We can't repeat the Xavi and Puyol bunders again and again.
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Post by alexjanosik Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:48 pm

Alves holds all the cards.We cant sign anyone and he knows we are stuck with 2 scrubs in Montoya and the Brazilian(dont even know his name).I think a middle ground can be found.2 years or 1 year with the addition of an optional one.
Either way,if we are serious about challenging next season,then we need him.Dont think we can win anything with Montoya and the Brazilian scrub.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:54 pm

Douglas.

I can't see Alves accepting anything less than 3 years at very high wages. He has all the leverage in the world.
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Post by alexjanosik Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:03 pm

Then we fold.As simple as that.

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Post by Donuts Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:25 pm

which was my point all along..

one player wont make the biggest difference, we'll just adjust without him.
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Post by free_cat Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:03 pm

Then we just don't renew him. It would be bread for next season, hunger for the other two (even possibly hunger for next season if Alves declines more).
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Post by The Franchise Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:00 pm

Donuts, do you still say Juanfran is better than Alves?

Just wondering, because I told you the guy is not even average and every time I see him (quite often) he is getting owned and is forced to foul and play dirty. The man is basically a couple years younger version of Arbeloa, imagine him playing for us Laughing


Anyway, I dont think Alves should get a 3 year contract, or even a 2 year contract. I think he should be going year by year from now on. But thats not the situation we are in...im sorry, we cant play Montoya (who is leaving himself) and Douglas..or experiment with wingers (Adama).

Maybe we can do a deal where he gets a contract for the remaining of the transfer ban and then further than that, perhaps some bonus linked to appearances (because we would then sign a new right back and he would play less).
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Post by Donuts Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:22 pm

if we were to rate players on a scale of 1-10

i would give alves a 7
and juanfran a 6

i would still take juanfran or any other player with a rating of 5-6 THAT is 2 or less years younger then alves in a heartbeat.

next year we will suffer because he we didn't sign a replacement, idc how much people think he's a "physical" freak or not.

come next year in feb. when we are playing 3 or so games a week (champions/copa and la liga)
we're going to be depending on a 33 year old man and his backup will be douglas.

if we didn't have the transfer ban then i would of kept alves. but now there is really nothing that can be done other then perhaps changing up the tactics


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Post by The Franchise Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:06 am

So yes, you would rather have Juanfran than Alves?

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Post by futbol Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:50 am

That's mah boy, Donuts. Proud

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