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La Selección Argentina V.2

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:39 pm

Previous thread: http://www.goallegacy.net/t17414-la-seleccion-argentina

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Augusto Fernandez over Banega Laughing


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Re: La Selección Argentina V.2

Post by Robespierre on Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:45 pm

RodriGOAT Palacio to become starter and to lead Argentina for World Cup , Schillaci-esque :coffee:

jokes aside ... I am much surprised about Banega cut


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Re: La Selección Argentina V.2

Post by danyjr on Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:45 pm

Sabella you idiot :facepalm:

Sosa, Banega and Otamendi out.

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Re: La Selección Argentina V.2

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:47 pm

Take it the Lavezzi rumors were false then?

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Re: La Selección Argentina V.2

Post by Ganso on Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:52 pm

Banega is out, but Gago is a always reliable option....rite?

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Re: La Selección Argentina V.2

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:53 pm

His place was never in any real danger mole, we are only taking 5 forwards for three positions.
@Ganso wrote:Banega is out, but Gago is a always reliable option....rite?

He's spent more time injured in the past 12 months than fit.

Enzo Perez should take his place if anything happens but it will probably be Biglia.


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Re: La Selección Argentina V.2

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:53 pm

You haven't seen the thread BC? It was rumored he failed a drug test.


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Re: La Selección Argentina V.2

Post by Robespierre on Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:05 pm

Incredibile attack , definitely the best by far but this midifielder look like poor further after Banega cut.


even Yakob could hope in a place.
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Re: La Selección Argentina V.2

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:06 pm

I'm only seeing it now. None of the argentine press picked up on it, which is where I go for my argentine news.

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Re: La Selección Argentina V.2

Post by Ganso on Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:08 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:His place was never in any real danger mole, we are only taking 5 forwards for three positions.
@Ganso wrote:Banega is out, but Gago is a always reliable option....rite?

He's spent more time injured in the past 12 months than fit.

Enzo Perez should take his place if anything happens but it will probably be Biglia.
i was being ironic when i said "rite?".it's clear Gago could get injured any minute and make your creativity in midfield much weaker.I don't rate Biglia at all

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Re: La Selección Argentina V.2

Post by matpol on Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:13 pm

Who the fu*k is Augusto Fernandez? Banega being dropped is big surprise.
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Re: La Selección Argentina V.2

Post by shinigami99 on Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:16 pm

Not sure how Banega didn't make the cut...that's really weird. At least Sosa is out I guess FWIW. Hopefully he never sees the NT again. Biglia is hit and a miss because he doesn't have nearly enough creativity as Gago, but Enzo Perez might be able to fill in a bit better. Maybe Biglia is a replacement for Mascherano? Also why even call up Augusto Fernandez? I feel someone like Gaitan would have been a better option for a Di Maria backup.

As for our defence, might as well stick to what we have been using for the entire campaign.

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Re: La Selección Argentina V.2

Post by Robespierre on Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:29 pm

3 Inter
3 Manchester City
2 Barcellona
2 Benfica
2 Boca Juniors
2 Napoli
1 Catania
1 Celta Vigo
1 Lazio
1 Newell's Old Boys
1 Monaco
1 Monterrey
1 PSG
1 Real Madrid
1 Sporting Lisbona

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Re: La Selección Argentina V.2

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:40 pm

But the starters will be:

Monaco
City - Napoli - Benfica - Lisbon
Boca - Barca - RM
Napoli - Barca - City

City, Barca, Napoli, Benfica 2
Monaco, Lisbon, RM 1

Inter: VAGI

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Re: La Selección Argentina V.2

Post by futbol on Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:47 pm

It's not much of a surprise that Banega doesn't make it. He didn't have a role in the entire qualifier stages. Played about 45 minutes total I believe.


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Re: La Selección Argentina V.2

Post by danyjr on Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:48 pm

Unbelievable selection by Sabella to leave Banega out.

Our midfield is going to get dominated by most teams that have a shot at the World Cup.

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Re: La Selección Argentina V.2

Post by Doc on Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:20 am

This Wednesday, you guys would be playing my boys (Trinidad and Tobago) so here's to hoping you accept my gracious apology of how not so good we are.

Please be gentle.

N.B I would be heavily rooting against you lot.

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Re: La Selección Argentina V.2

Post by Robespierre on Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:29 am

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:But the starters will be:

Monaco
City - Napoli - Benfica - Lisbon
Boca - Barca - RM
Napoli - Barca - City

City, Barca, Napoli, Benfica 2
Monaco, Lisbon, RM 1

Inter: VAGI


Palacio to be your Schillaci mate.

Boca Juniors (Palacio) ,River Plate ( Higuain) ,Newell's Old Boys (Messi) ,Independiente (Aguero) ,San Lorenzo (Lavezzi) , the 5 Argentinian top teams all represented in your attack  hmm 
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Post by Robespierre on Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:30 am

Seriously talking ... I would not be so worried about defence. Oh, that GK is mediocre and you could resolve much with Caballero ... but you have always Garay one of best defenders in Europe and Zabaleta best RB in the world imo
Demichelis is improved in last period of year, he played also better than Kompany.
He remained enough limited but Garay is a leader and he can fill his gaps

All is about that midfield.
Argentina has not reserve, that is the point.

Mascherano is the key of all , most important player in this NT, even more than Messi imho.
He should be dipped in the waters of the River Styx, so as to be invulnerable , and possibily also the heel , in this case.
Similar matter for Di Maria, another player with no good replacements , but Mascherano expecially, he is essensial for the balance of team . He IS The balance . How much would be served the old Cambiasso with Mascherano now, solid partnership who would have completed this NT and in this case Argentina would be my favored to win the Cup . and it's reason why Maradona as manager will be always a regret to have wasted a chance of title

Well .. C ' Mon my 2nd NT Molenation
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Post by Doc on Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:37 am

Argentina would be relatively fine though. Clearly the midfield and defense are real issues but Argentina honestly isn't known for their defensive efforts. The attacking third would have to make up for that one.

Also, 2006 was Argentina's best chance since 1990 in my opinion. That squad was so well balanced, so good. Pekerman just messed up at the wrong time...


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Post by Robespierre on Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:12 am

2002 was the best team of that WC on paper . for me . Anyway the manager was Bielsa. He was confirmed even after that failure because the players were falled in love for him ... and then he got good results  , so right choice

Although Argentina has always great NTs , it doesn't reach the semi-finals since 1990. Strange also if we consider the fact that Argentina 90 was inferior to all the other NT followed in the years. But the Argentina 90 was close to win that WC just because they had Diego Armando Maradona and because they played "anti-football" so as to reach the penalty kicks aware of their limitations. There wasn't a match who really deserved to win to Italy 90 , asking to URSS , Brazil , Iugoslavia and Italy.
In Italy the ppl still "suffer" to have missed the homemade WC because of them,
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Post by Doc on Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:19 am

I meant to write 2006 not 2002. Sorry, would edit it. I hated the 2002 side actually.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:27 am

The more I think about it the more outraged I am. Romero is still somehow our goalkeeper, whereas Willy will watch it from home. We are only taking ONE fullback for the entire competition. Nevermind our CBs, if Zaba gets injured both our FBs will play as CBs for their clubs Laughing Could he really not find any space for one of Vangioni, Peruzzi or Ansaldi? Sabella did the right thing by calling up Enzo, but I'm afraid that he will be second choice to both Biglia (for Gago) and Maxi (for Di Maria). If Maxi enters for Di Maria we will essentially be playing 4-2-4.

I'm getting 2010 deja vu all over this.

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Post by messixaviesta on Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:21 am

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:The more I think about it the more outraged I am. Romero is still somehow our goalkeeper, whereas Willy will watch it from home. We are only taking ONE fullback for the entire competition. Nevermind our CBs, if Zaba gets injured both our FBs will play as CBs for their clubs Laughing Could he really not find any space for one of Vangioni, Peruzzi or Ansaldi? Sabella did the right thing by calling up Enzo, but I'm afraid that he will be second choice to both Biglia (for Gago) and Maxi (for Di Maria). If Maxi enters for Di Maria we will essentially be playing 4-2-4.

I'm getting 2010 deja vu all over this.


I would rather trust Sabella. He has brought the team really far since he took over. Hence even though all his selections may not appeal the whole thing does look much better than WC 2010.
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Post by messixaviesta on Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:32 am

@Robespierre wrote:2002 was the best team of that WC on paper . for me . Anyway the manager was Bielsa. He was confirmed even after that failure because the players were falled in love for him ... and then he got good results  , so right choice

Although Argentina has always great NTs , it doesn't reach the semi-finals since 1990. Strange also if we consider the fact that Argentina 90 was inferior to all the other NT followed in the years. But the Argentina 90 was close to win that WC just because they had Diego Armando Maradona and because they played "anti-football" so as to reach the penalty kicks aware of their limitations. There wasn't a match who really deserved to win to Italy 90 , asking to URSS , Brazil , Iugoslavia and Italy.
In Italy the ppl still "suffer" to have missed the homemade WC because of them,


Immensely well said. Agree 100%.
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