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Re: Golden Ball and other WC Awards

Post by FalcaoPunch on Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:29 am

@Harmonica wrote:Nice to see rational thinking for once from FIFA.
you're kidding.

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Re: Golden Ball and other WC Awards

Post by Harmonica on Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:32 am

@FalcaoPunch wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:Nice to see rational thinking for once from FIFA.
you're kidding.
You're colombian.

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Re: Golden Ball and other WC Awards

Post by FalcaoPunch on Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:36 am

@Harmonica wrote:
@FalcaoPunch wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:Nice to see rational thinking for once from FIFA.
you're kidding.
You're colombian.


And it would have been nice to have James win.
But the fact it was Messi is a joke.
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Post by Freeza on Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:40 am

How is messi derserving of it, Jiopsi? He hasn't made the difference since Switzerland... He scored against scrubs and didn't deliver. Mascherano was better for Argentina when it mattered. Neuer, Robben, James and Müller were all better.

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Re: Golden Ball and other WC Awards

Post by Harmonica on Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:41 am

@FalcaoPunch wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:
@FalcaoPunch wrote: you're kidding.
You're colombian.


And it would have been nice to have James win.
But the fact it was Messi is a joke.
What nice about it? It's not the nicest person award. I think you mixed fact and joke there.

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Re: Golden Ball and other WC Awards

Post by Harmonica on Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:43 am

@Freeza wrote:How is messi derserving of it, Jiopsi? He hasn't made the difference since Switzerland... He scored against scrubs and didn't deliver. Mascherano was better for Argentina when it mattered. Neuer, Robben, James and Müller were all better.
Most chances created, most dribbless, most marked (at least twice), most concentrated, most pressured, most clutch goals, carried the team most, most MoM performances... Need I go on? When it mattered? Every game mattered.
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Re: Golden Ball and other WC Awards

Post by FalcaoPunch on Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:49 am

@Harmonica wrote:
@FalcaoPunch wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:You're colombian.


And it would have been nice to have James win.
But the fact it was Messi is a joke.
What nice about it? It's not the nicest person award. I think you mixed fact and joke there.


You know that's not what I meant.
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Post by RealGunner on Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:49 am

Keep it civil please
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Post by Motogp69 on Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:50 am

Messi WTF :facepalm:

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Re: Golden Ball and other WC Awards

Post by Harmonica on Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:50 am

@FalcaoPunch wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:
@FalcaoPunch wrote:


And it would have been nice to have James win.
But the fact it was Messi is a joke.
What nice about it? It's not the nicest person award. I think you mixed fact and joke there.


You know that's not what I meant.
What do you actually mean?

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Re: Golden Ball and other WC Awards

Post by LeSwagg James on Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:54 am

Messi carried his team to the Final, I don't have a problem with him winning it...

I would of given it to James though, he was the stand out player of this tournament

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Re: Golden Ball and other WC Awards

Post by Freeza on Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:56 am

@Harmonica wrote:
@Freeza wrote:How is messi derserving of it, Jiopsi? He hasn't made the difference since Switzerland... He scored against scrubs and didn't deliver. Mascherano was better for Argentina when it mattered. Neuer, Robben, James and Müller were all better.
Most chances created, most dribbless, most marked (at least twice), most concentrated, most pressured, most clutch goals, carried the team most, most MoM performances... Need I go on? When it mattered? Every game mattered.

How did he carry them Laughing he wasn't involved in a goal for more than 300 minutes Laughing he carried them to the quarters with help from Di Maria... What an achievement Laughing

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Re: Golden Ball and other WC Awards

Post by Harmonica on Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:56 am

James - Lost to Lolzil in QF. No.
Robben - The self confessed diver lost to Messi in QF. The fact that he was praised for terrorizing defences with his running and taking of defenders. Well quess what, Messi 46 dribbles to Robben's 34, Messi 23 chances created to Robben's 17, with Robben having millionbillion times more space and time. No.
Any German - They were the Spain of 2010 - No.

Who then?

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Re: Golden Ball and other WC Awards

Post by FalcaoPunch on Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:58 am

@Harmonica wrote:
@FalcaoPunch wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:
What nice about it? It's not the nicest person award. I think you mixed fact and joke there.


You know that's not what I meant.
What do you actually mean?

Do I really have to explain it?
As a Colombian which happens to be where James is from incase you didn't know.

It would be a great honor for a Colombian player and Colombian football all together for our player to get recognized as the best of the tournament. No sure what's confusing about it.

Now it wasn't him and it's cool he's top goal scorer. Messi wasn't even best for Argentina and still won it? People all over the world are left like this scratch at this decision
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Re: Golden Ball and other WC Awards

Post by Freeza on Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:00 am

Arguing with jiopsi about messi, is like trying to solve a conflict in Gaza... Should've known better Laughing

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Re: Golden Ball and other WC Awards

Post by Harmonica on Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:02 am

@Freeza wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:
@Freeza wrote:How is messi derserving of it, Jiopsi? He hasn't made the difference since Switzerland... He scored against scrubs and didn't deliver. Mascherano was better for Argentina when it mattered. Neuer, Robben, James and Müller were all better.
Most chances created, most dribbless, most marked (at least twice), most concentrated, most pressured, most clutch goals, carried the team most, most MoM performances... Need I go on? When it mattered? Every game mattered.

How did he carry them Laughing he wasn't involved in a goal for more than 300 minutes Laughing he carried them to the quarters with help from Di Maria... What an achievement Laughing
Take away the three individual goals from group games, and Argentina don't even get in R16. Involved in the both goals in R16 and QF, 7/8 of all. Against Netherlands he was sole reason for the defending tactics, and buried the first penalty (take notice hair stylist).


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Re: Golden Ball and other WC Awards

Post by FalcaoPunch on Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:02 am

@Freeza wrote:Arguing with jiopsi about messi, is like trying to solve a conflict in Gaza... Should've known better Laughing

You right I just cost my pro club a win trying to reply rofl
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Post by shinigami99 on Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:02 am

I'm curious about people saying Messi didn't deserve to win it. Yea sure, it could have been a lot of people but this is the reality: Messi carried Argentina almost singlehandedly from the group stage to the quarter finals, and every single team effort against him was essentially to triple mark him out of the game. Even against all of that, he still managed to string together nice plays in the semis and the final. Yes Muller scored 5 and got three assists, but the truth is that the entire german team was absolutely great and they were so rewarded with the world cup trophy. However, the Golden Ball is an individual award and I'm not exactly sure how they choose it but Messi had as much of a chance as anybody else in the running (James, Muller, Neuer, etc.) and to say he did not deserve it is just stupid.


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Re: Golden Ball and other WC Awards

Post by Harmonica on Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:04 am

@FalcaoPunch wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:
@FalcaoPunch wrote:


You know that's not what I meant.
What do you actually mean?

Do I really have to explain it?
As a Colombian which happens to be where James is from incase you didn't know.

It would be a great honor for a Colombian player and Colombian football all together for our player to get recognized as the best of the tournament. No sure what's confusing about it.

Now it wasn't him and it's cool he's top goal scorer. Messi wasn't even best for Argentina and still won it? People all over the world are left like this scratch at this decision
It isn't honorary award either. Your arguments are not really working.


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Re: Golden Ball and other WC Awards

Post by elitedam on Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:05 am

Most clutch goals? rofl

I think Mascherano should have won it.

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Post by Freeza on Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:08 am

So Argentina didn't have a good team? 1 goal conceded in 450 minutes these knockout stages, and they only scored 2... If anyone carried them to the final, it was the defensive unit led by Masche who shows he's WC when playing as a DM

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Post by Winter is Coming on Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:09 am

When Forlan won it no one had a problem. Messi wins it awards fixed.

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Post by Freeza on Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:10 am

@Winter is Coming wrote:When Forlan won it no one had a problem. Messi wins it awards fixed.

A lot of people had a problem with Sneijder not winning it iirc.

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Post by Pedram on Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:11 am

If Colombia could get into semi, James would've won it.

That loss against Brazil ruined his chance.

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Re: Golden Ball and other WC Awards

Post by FalcaoPunch on Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:12 am

@Harmonica wrote:
@FalcaoPunch wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:
What do you actually mean?

Do I really have to explain it?
As a Colombian which happens to be where James is from incase you didn't know.

It would be a great honor for a Colombian player and Colombian football all together for our player to get recognized as the best of the tournament. No sure what's confusing about it.

Now it wasn't him and it's cool he's top goal scorer. Messi wasn't even best for Argentina and still won it? People all over the world are left like this scratch at this decision
It isn't honorary award either. Your arguments are not really working.


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Re: Golden Ball and other WC Awards

Post by Winter is Coming on Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:17 am



Good sportsmanship Proud

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