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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by Curtinho on Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:53 pm

@Red Alert wrote:Playing a midfield trio of Henderson, Can and Gerrard would be horrible and wouldn't work at all.

Based on what?

Can and Henderson have similar qualities in that they both seem to have tireless engines, are great at pressing and can cover a ton of ground. Henderson is more economical with his passing and creates more scoring opportunities that way while Can likes to run with the ball a bit more and challenge the opposition. They would complement eachother well in midfield with the sheer amount of pressure they would put on the other team.

I never said he wouldn't improve, again I said he had potential. But we're spending 20m for potential. We have a lot of "potential" at the club and I don't really want to get into this debate again, as I don't think you'll convince me otherwise. We need quality. And instead of signing quality, we're wasting our time on "for the future" and for depth when the present / what we do now actually determines where our future will be. We won't make top 4 the way we're going, I guarantee it. What's the future look like then when our best players become "mercenary's" for wanting to leave to fight for silverware?


The thing is that we have quality. Sturridge, Coutinho, Sterling, Henderson, Allen are all still young, growing players. Sterling looks to be on the verge of becoming one of the next big stars of football with what he's shown at his age. Coutinho also has star potential and really Sturridge is already there if he can maintain consistency. Lallana is a guy who had a great season and if he can bring some of that with him to Liverpool is another quality player right now. I'm sure that more signings are on the way to help the team right now (still a lot of money left), but even with the team we have I would be confident of making top 4. The only thing that bothers me is that they are being too complacent about the fullback situation, especially with all the money they have to throw around they should be after someone like Rodriguez, but it is what it is.

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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by Curtinho on Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:21 pm

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28210975

Former Arsenal striker Nicklas Bendtner is expected to move to a new club within days and "there is interest from clubs in England, Germany and Spain."

Don't miss the boat Rodgers.

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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by iftikhar on Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:32 pm

@Fahim89 wrote:
HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:

So I am going for Haames cheers choose your player


I choose Reus!!!  cheers 
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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by Art Morte on Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:22 pm

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:btw, these cheap bastards from Napoli can f... off with these loan offers


I wouldn't say that, they're probably our best hope still to get Reina's wages off our books... I don't know about Lucas, though, I'm thinking we should keep him in case Gerrard gets injured / can't play every game.


Looks like Sanchez to Arsenal is going to happen, that's a massive disappointment for me...
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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by Helmer on Tue Jul 08, 2014 4:05 pm

@RA, comparing the situation of Lallana and Downing-Carroll..haha no need to discuss it further.

And I think we are still in rebuilding phase and we have not yet established us a fav for top 4. Losing Suarez was part of that, i was expecting that either we were going to lose him either in this summer or next. So now we have lost him so that is what eactly it is that we have to build it again.

By career start I mean, Suarez scored 11 goals and 3 assists in 11/12 season, off course those are good stats for the first season. So what I am saying is if these new signings can provide that much, I will be happy enough. I think Lallana specially, I am expecting him to provide min that much.

But one thing I agree with is, we have not always bought experienced players eg. Lallana. But specially when Suarez is gone, I am totally expecting that we will sign one more player, someone like Suarez from other league, by similar I mean, a player in similar situation as Suarez at Ajax.

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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by Arsenalfaithfull on Tue Jul 08, 2014 4:06 pm

Are you guys looking to sell Agger?
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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by Helmer on Tue Jul 08, 2014 4:27 pm

Do you want to buy him hmm

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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by DeletedUser#1 on Tue Jul 08, 2014 4:33 pm

RedAlert has seen Markovic play 2 games and is calling him useless and shit already Laughing rofl

O man. What a guy Proud

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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by Helmer on Tue Jul 08, 2014 5:02 pm

He also says...Can/Hendo/Gerrard midfield will be horrible when it is a very good combination when you want a solid midfield. I know it wont be as creative as Gerrard/Hendo/Coutinho but it would be a very good cobination to have. Can in that position is surely better than Allen.

But I dont think he has seen Can enough to judge his creativity. He is very neat with the ball and can play some brilliant creative passes.

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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by Art Morte on Tue Jul 08, 2014 5:08 pm

Yeah, I'm definitely believing a Hendo - Gerrard - Can midfield will be seen this season and it shouldn't be too bad on paper, we'll see how Emre does.
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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by Arsenalfaithfull on Tue Jul 08, 2014 5:30 pm

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:Do you want to buy him hmm

I dont have the money, the club i support might though :biggrin:
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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by DeletedUser#1 on Tue Jul 08, 2014 5:36 pm

@Art Morte wrote:Yeah, I'm definitely believing a Hendo - Gerrard - Can midfield will be seen this season and it shouldn't be too bad on paper, we'll see how Emre does.


It's amazing how RedAlert thinks Emre-Hendo-Gerrard midfield doesn't work, whereas a defensively more vulnerable version of this (Cou-Hendo-Gerrard) was our midfield in majority of our best performances in the league last season.

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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by Curtinho on Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:29 pm

Don't underrate Allen...he's legitimate. Our midfield will slowly move towards mainly Henderson/Allen/Can/Coutinho as the season progresses and Gerrard wears down/gets injured. It's not a bad thing either, I think a midfield of Henderson Allen/Can as a double pivot and Coutinho on the tip in the 4-3-3 could be our best option this year.

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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by Red Alert on Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:09 pm

Was I not on ignore Sepi? And you continue to make shit up to try and get your point across. Proud Please tell me where I've said he's shit please. Enlighten me. I said he was inconsistent because he is. He hasn't even broken through as a regular at Benfica ffs.

That midfield has no balance at all. We'll struggle to break teams down with it. Can and Hendo doing the same role would be stupid. We need players to step and score goals with Suarez gone. So you play 2 box to box players who are both kinda average in the box? You'd make Moyesie proud. Proud

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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by Helmer on Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:33 am

@Arsenalfaithfull wrote:
HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:Do you want to buy him hmm

I dont have the money, the club i support might though :biggrin:  

you really thought I was asking you hmm
Edit: as a person ???

Btw, L'Equipe now (apparently as per twitter) claiming Rodriguez will be allowed to move on for 60m €/ 44m GBP

BUY BUY BUY

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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by iftikhar on Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:39 am

Rodriguez will be allowed to move on for 60m €/ 44m GBP
which one!!!
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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by Kick on Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:41 am

They are the same, one is pounds, one is euros.

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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by Helmer on Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:49 am

i think he was asking about the player, Lequipe mate, so the player from the French league

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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by Peccadillo on Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:06 am

you are inevitably going to get linked with Balo.

Thoughts if you can get him for <£20mil?
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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by Helmer on Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:25 am

one nutter is gone, we need another one :coffee:

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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by Art Morte on Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:02 pm

Mundo Deportivo saying that the Suarez fee will be only £58m:

BBC Sportsday wrote:Spanish newspaper Mundo Deportivo claims that Barcelona have negotiated a fee of of between 70 and 73m euros (£55.6m-58m) for the transfer of Uruguay striker Luis Suarez from Liverpool.

The fee represents a reduction of 20m euros on the 27-year-old's buyout clause according to the paper.

I've no idea about their reliability.
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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by Helmer on Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:15 pm

I also dont have any idea but Henry is goddamn businessman and he wont do such deals

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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by mr-r34 on Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:47 pm

@Art Morte wrote:Mundo Deportivo saying that the Suarez fee will be only £58m:

BBC Sportsday wrote:Spanish newspaper Mundo Deportivo claims that Barcelona have negotiated a fee of of between 70 and 73m euros (£55.6m-58m) for the transfer of Uruguay striker Luis Suarez from Liverpool.

The fee represents a reduction of 20m euros on the 27-year-old's buyout clause according to the paper.

I've no idea about their reliability.


You can throw that out the window, we can't be that dumb.

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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by Curtinho on Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:03 pm

Well, if L'Equipe is right I would imagine that is referring to James Rodriguez.

I think he wants a move to La Liga though, not the EPL. Otherwise I would say we should be all over that...even overbid on him to ensure we get him.

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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by DeletedUser#1 on Wed Jul 09, 2014 5:50 pm

For all of you DM obsessives.

Last night, a team without a DM, beat a team that started with 2 DMs (Fernandinho n Gustavo) 7-1.

DM =/= Defensive stability. DMs are a dying breed and thank god for that. horrible players.

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Re: Summer of 2014: Part 2

Post by Curtinho on Wed Jul 09, 2014 6:20 pm

I'm not that interested in a DM, but a defensively responsible playmaker, or two engines playing as a double pivot is fine for me. Henderson - Can/Allen would be really nice for an attack minded team moving forward I think.

Anyway, saw this:
AC Milan offer El Shaarawy to Real Madrid, according to El Confidencial. €20m would be the starting price for him.
I hope that Rodgers at least tries to get in on this if they are willing to sell. We've been linked with him before, and he'd be amazing if healthy.

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