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Post by windkick on Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:53 pm



Luis Alberto Suárez Díaz (born 24 January 1987) is a Uruguayan footballer who plays for FC Barcelona in Spain and the Uruguayan national team as a striker.

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Primera División (1): 2005–06
Ajax
Eredivisie (1): 2010–11
KNVB Cup (1): 2009–10
Johan Cruijff Shield (1): 2007
Liverpool
Football League Cup (1): 2011–12
FC Barcelona
La Liga: 2014–15
Copa del Rey: 2014–15
UEFA Champions League: 2014–15
UEFA Super Cup: 2015

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Copa América (1): 2011

Individual
PFA Players' Player of the Year (1): 2013–14
FWA Footballer of the Year (1): 2013–14
European Golden Shoe (1): 2013–14
Barclays Player of the Season (1): 2013–14
FSF Player of the Year (1): 2013–14
Dutch Footballer of the Year (1): 2009–10
ESM Team of the Year (1): 2013–14
PFA Team of the Year (2): 2012–13, 2013–14
Premier League Player of the Month (2): December 2013, March 2014
Premier League Golden Boot: 2013-14
Golden Boot Landmark Award 10 (1): 2012-13
Golden Boot Landmark Award 20 (2): 2012-13, 2013–14
Golden Boot Landmark Award 30 (1): 2013-14
Eredivisie Golden Boot (1): 2009–10
KNVB Cup Top Goalscorer (1): 2009–10
2014 FIFA World Cup qualification (CONMEBOL): Top Goalscorer (11 goals)
Copa América Player of the Tournament (1): 2011
Ajax Player of the Year (2): 2008–09, 2009–10
Ajax Top Goalscorer (2): 2008–09, 2009–10
Liverpool FC Player of the Year (2): 2012–13, 2013–14
Liverpool FC Top Goalscorer (3): 2011–12, 2012–13, 2013–14


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Re: Luis Suárez : el Vampiro

Post by futbol on Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:00 pm

Messi, Iniesta, Suarez, Neymar. Best offensive quartet in modern football history for sure.

Just splash € 50M on Benatia and be done with the transfer window IMO.

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Re: Luis Suárez : el Vampiro

Post by Robespierre on Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:33 pm

Another Luis Suarez to Barcellona.
After 50 years. The last time was Balon d'or with this kit.
Then he went to Inter and winning 2 CL
Proud DAT cyclic trend

Fantastic player , I remind he was close to Barcelona already before of Liverpool , his agent is Guardiola's brother, basically the Barcelona was in his destiny. On the other hand, with that name and surname..
Curious to see his partnership with Messi , it can be simply unreal
Is he going to miss always 9 matches of Liga ? Liga begins later than EPL
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Post by The Franchise on Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:41 pm

I have no idea how he is going fit in this team, in a functional way. Defensively anyway.
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Post by RealGunner on Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:56 pm

Excited to see Barcelona next season.
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Post by Valkyrja on Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:58 pm

@The Franchise wrote:I have no idea how he is going fit in this team, in a functional way. Defensively anyway.


he works very hard defensively.

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Re: Luis Suárez : el Vampiro

Post by Robespierre on Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:04 pm

@Valkyrja wrote:
@The Franchise wrote:I have no idea how he is going fit in this team, in a functional way. Defensively anyway.


he works very hard defensively.


Exactly.
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Post by Valkyrja on Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:05 pm

to sum up, he's an improvement to sanchez in every way possible.

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Re: Luis Suárez : el Vampiro

Post by alexjanosik on Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:16 pm

Does anyone know what wages he is on with us?There was news that he had taken a pay cut to join us.

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Post by Winter is Coming on Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:30 pm

@alexjanosik wrote:Does anyone know what wages he is on with us?There was news that he had taken a pay cut to join us.

Messi, Neymar and Ineista get more then him. Neymar is at £120,000, so I'm assuming Suarez will be around £100,000 to £115,000. Unless things have changed, but i believe he'll be the 4th most paid player.

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Post by futbol on Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:05 pm

@The Franchise wrote:I have no idea how he is going fit in this team, in a functional way. Defensively anyway.


You're overthinking this IMO. In 9 out of 10 La Liga games Alves will effectively be a winger anyway:


Suarez
Neymar Messi Alves
Iniesta Rakitic
Busquets
Alba CB Pique
Mats

Either because teams will be parking the bus or because they'll be so poor that they won't be able to exploit Alves' positioning. I think we can agree that this is not an issue at all against the Granadas, Getafes and Almerias of this world.

Against better elite teams, which aren't that many (Clasicos, Atletico Madrid, CL quarter and semi final games) it can be normal 4-3-3 with Neymar-Messi-Suarez where Suarez attacks from the right wing like Eto'o did in 2009 when he turned Vidic inside out or even something completely different and 1 off.

I don't see why this is supposed to cause problems as if Sanchez was the holy grail of balance. Suarez is better than Sanchez in basically everything. He even works as hard off the ball.

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Re: Luis Suárez : el Vampiro

Post by iftikhar on Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:07 pm

Have the Spanish FA released the fixture for 2014-15!!! Since FIFA have upheld the ban on Suarez, how many games he is likely to miss?
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Post by futbol on Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:17 pm

Something else needs to be said. We finally got an elite forward in case Messi gets injured. No more Slowbregas false 9 experiments. cheers

Neymar Suarez Pedro

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@iftikhar wrote:Have the Spanish FA released the fixture for 2014-15!!! Since FIFA have upheld the ban on Suarez, how many games he is likely to miss?


I hope La Liga teams go on strike. Isn't there something to complain about this year?! TV money? INJUSTICIA!!! Laughing

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Post by ExtremistEnigma on Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:28 pm

@Winter is Coming wrote:
@alexjanosik wrote:Does anyone know what wages he is on with us?There was news that he had taken a pay cut to join us.

Messi, Neymar and Ineista get more then him. Neymar is at £120,000, so I'm assuming Suarez will be around £100,000 to £115,000. Unless things have changed, but i believe he'll be the 4th most paid player.

He was on £200k per week after he signed a new contract last year. Laughing
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Re: Luis Suárez : el Vampiro

Post by futbol on Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:38 pm

@ExtremistEnigma wrote:
@Winter is Coming wrote:
@alexjanosik wrote:Does anyone know what wages he is on with us?There was news that he had taken a pay cut to join us.

Messi, Neymar and Ineista get more then him. Neymar is at £120,000, so I'm assuming Suarez will be around £100,000 to £115,000. Unless things have changed, but i believe he'll be the 4th most paid player.

He was on £200k per week after he signed a new contract last year. Laughing


Yeah, he took a paycut. Like Cesc, Mascherano and many others.

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Re: Luis Suárez : el Vampiro

Post by Don't call me James on Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:03 am

Well I can tell you one thing, for the first time ever I'll be rooting for y'all in the Clasico and the La Liga race. Thumbs up

I think you guys will be surprised at how effective he is.

PS. If Messi goes dictator mode on his ass and wants him out, I hope you guys think of us before loaning him out to Milan with a view of a permanent transfer at 25m in 25 installments over a 25 year period.

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Re: Luis Suárez : el Vampiro

Post by danyjr on Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:32 am

Fußball wrote:

Suarez
Neymar Messi Alves
Iniesta Rakitic
Busquets
Alba CB Pique
Mats

While I think the midfield trio of Iniesta, Rakitić and Busquets will be superior against PTB teams, I'm not sure how it would fare against better teams. My main issue would be against better pressing teams because Rako and Iniesta are not as good as Busquets or Xavi under pressure and that could mean a change of play style. There is hope Busquets' role evolves from being a liability in middle and final third to being one responsible for some of what Xavi used to do in midfield.[/quote]

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:34 am

Fußball wrote:Messi, Iniesta, Suarez, Neymar. Best offensive quartet in modern football history for sure.

Just splash € 50M on Benatia and be done with the transfer window IMO.


If Xavi is indeed going you will need another CM tbh.

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Post by free_cat on Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:38 am

Welcome Suarez! Great signing and at a reasonable market price.

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Post by neuro11 on Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:57 am

Fußball wrote:Something else needs to be said. We finally got an elite forward in case Messi gets injured. No more Slowbregas false 9 experiments. cheers

Neymar Suarez Pedro

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@iftikhar wrote:Have the Spanish FA released the fixture for 2014-15!!! Since FIFA have upheld the ban on Suarez, how many games he is likely to miss?


I hope La Liga teams go on strike. Isn't there something to complain about this year?! TV money? INJUSTICIA!!! Laughing


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Post by neuro11 on Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:59 am

A great player and athlete....No doubt we bought two of the best players in 2 consecutive seasons....Still cant accept his biting habit though... Neutral 

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Post by The Franchise on Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:47 am

@Valkyrja wrote:
@The Franchise wrote:I have no idea how he is going fit in this team, in a functional way. Defensively anyway.


he works very hard defensively.

Irrelevant. If he is playing striker, the leftback is free. If he is playing rightwing, thats not a good fit for him.
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Post by Onyx on Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:58 am

Barca played Villa through the middle at times and he tracked back as a RW, I guess Suarez would have a similar role.

If Barca's pressing is similar to how it was under Pep, then Suarez not being at RW straight away when pressing shouldn't be a problem. The RB/RCM will be the first players who press the LB.

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Post by The Franchise on Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:17 am

Fußball wrote:
@The Franchise wrote:I have no idea how he is going fit in this team, in a functional way. Defensively anyway.


You're overthinking this IMO. In 9 out of 10 La Liga games Alves will effectively be a winger anyway:


Suarez
Neymar Messi Alves
Iniesta Rakitic
Busquets
Alba CB Pique
Mats

Either because teams will be parking the bus or because they'll be so poor that they won't be able to exploit Alves' positioning. I think we can agree that this is not an issue at all against the Granadas, Getafes and Almerias of this world.

Against better elite teams, which aren't that many (Clasicos, Atletico Madrid, CL quarter and semi final games) it can be normal 4-3-3 with Neymar-Messi-Suarez where Suarez attacks from the right wing like Eto'o did in 2009 when he turned Vidic inside out or even something completely different and 1 off.

I don't see why this is supposed to cause problems as if Sanchez was the holy grail of balance. Suarez is better than Sanchez in basically everything. He even works as hard off the ball.

Forget Alexis, its not about his qualities. Alexis wasnt a striker, he didnt stay in goalscoring positions when Messi had the ball. So when it is turned over, he has a fighting chance of getting back into the play. How hard Suarez works will mean little if he has to come all the way from inside the box for example.

Also using the Man Utd game with Etoo is an anomaly, we had 50% of the ball (or less), we had Abidal and 2 CB's capable of effectively covering space with intelligence and we had a team where 11 players put in all the effort possible.

Lets instead talk about actual positioning and logic.

For Suarez to play as a 9, we all can agree he cant press the leftback when the ball is turned over. He isnt in the position to do so.

So Dani Alves (or whoever is rightback) will come forward and pressure the fullback. This starts the chain where the RCB (lets say Pique) goes over to wherever the winger is.  If said winger stays against the touchline that is a gap of around 35m between the Pique and his partner. More or less depending on the movement of the striker.

Busquets will have move to cover the space in front so the direct ball to the striker isnt so easy, you cant have the best strikers in the world (we talking those big games here) in this much space 1 v 1 with a defender. You cant have any striker 1 v 1 in that much space realistically. Busquets covering that angle means he is no longer man marking the opponents 10, who himself will now have a incredible amounts of space lateral to Busquets left.  

Rakitic and Iniesta are going to be occupied pressing their men, because obviously any pressing system requires the midfield to basically man mark.

Basically this is the best we can hope for everyone presses on point.


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I dont know about you, but this look worries me. Busquets has to be in 2 places at once. Either he protects the CB or he marks the 10. If the ball gets into the 10, Busquets wont recover, if Alba is even in position he has to come across, this leaves the RW in space.
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Post by The Franchise on Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:18 am

Yohan Modric wrote:Barca played Villa through the middle at times and he tracked back as a RW, I guess Suarez would have a similar role.

If Barca's pressing is similar to how it was under Pep, then Suarez not being at RW straight away when pressing shouldn't be a problem. The RB/RCM will be the first players who press the LB.


MT please stop. Your talking like someone who never played football before. Do you realise how big the pitch is? Suarez is never making it from striker to leftback faster than the ball can move there.
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