Champions League: Group Stage Draw discussion

Seeding pot 1
Spain Real MadridTH CC: 161.542
Spain Barcelona CC: 157.542
Germany Bayern Munich CC: 154.328
England Chelsea CC: 140.949
Portugal Benfica CC: 129.459
Spain Atlético Madrid CC: 119.542
England Arsenal CC: 112.949
Portugal Porto CC: 105.459

Seeding pot 2
Germany Schalke 04 CC: 95.328
Germany Borussia Dortmund CC: 82.328
Italy Juventus CC: 80.387
France Paris Saint-Germain CC: 80.300
Ukraine Shakhtar Donetsk CC: 78.193
Switzerland Basel CC: 75.645
Russia Zenit Saint Petersburg CC: 73.899
England Manchester City CC: 72.949


Seeding pot 3
Germany Bayer Leverkusen CC: 70.328
Greece Olympiacos CC: 67.720
Russia CSKA Moscow CC: 66.899
Netherlands Ajax CC: 61.862
England Liverpool CC: 58.949
Portugal Sporting CP CC: 58.459
Turkey Galatasaray CC: 55.340
Spain Athletic Bilbao CC: 54.542


Seeding pot 4
Belgium Anderlecht CC: 50.260
Italy Roma CC: 39.887
Cyprus APOEL CC: 37.650
Belarus BATE Borisov CC: 33.725
Slovenia Maribor CC: 16.200
France Monaco CC: 11.300
Sweden Malmö FF CC: 6.265
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Hapless_Hans wrote:why is Arsenal even in pot 1?
They always have to play qualifiers and haven't never reached a quarter as far as I can remember, couple of exceptions maybe.

farfan wrote:why is porto in pot 1 and dortmund in 2 ?

RealGunner wrote:We have been in the R16 for about 15 times out of 17 years. No one in Pot 2,3,4 can claim to be in our place.

Why is Atletico there?

Natalie Portman wrote:

RealGunner wrote:We have been in the R16 for about 15 times out of 17 years. No one in Pot 2,3,4 can claim to be in our place.

Why is Atletico there?

2 European trophies in the past 5 years and have made as much progress in CL last season alone than Arsenal have done in those glorious 17 years

RealGunner wrote:

Natalie Portman wrote:

RealGunner wrote:We have been in the R16 for about 15 times out of 17 years. No one in Pot 2,3,4 can claim to be in our place.

Why is Atletico there?

2 European trophies in the past 5 years and have made as much progress in CL last season alone than Arsenal have done in those glorious 17 years

2 EL trophies which we would win every year if we are in it. It's a 2nd grade european competition for a reason.

They reached the final of the CL for the first time ever while they didn't even make the CL every year unlike us. It's not better than our prestige.

sportsczy wrote:Those club UEFA coefficients are wrong RG. Not even close tbh:

http://fr.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/

RealGunner wrote:

sportsczy wrote:Those club UEFA coefficients are wrong RG.  Not even close tbh:

http://fr.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/

Schalke above Arsenal. wat