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Post by Kick Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:08 am

Thats a perfectly legit tackle, imo. TS is still the best in the world. Boateng is an EPL flop :coffee:

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Post by McAgger Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:20 am

When has Boateng ever been the best CB in the world? Laughing

Silva and Varane are comfortably better.

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Post by dostoevsky Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:06 am

Varane gets to enter the discussion when he actually regularly plays in his team's first eleven and not before.

I actually thought Boateng played well on the most part, despite his error which is obviously unforgivable, I didn't think he was the biggest villain of the night for Bayern. Alonso despite his goal was poor throughout and brought City back into it, Bernat was roasted 1v1 and was poor positionally all night, often destroying Bayern's offside trap and Benatia got himself sent off through an absolutely pointless challenge.

I obviously feel that Hans overrates him slightly however he doesn't get the credit often due him on this forum.

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Post by Kuru Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:39 am

City were extremely lucky to win. They were outplayed at home, against 10 mind, for more than 70 minutes. And two of their goals came from fetal mistakes from the opposition, taken advantage off by just one player, it wasn't even a team counter attack, or something alike.

Well, congrats to City anyway.
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Post by Curtinho Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:46 am

When did Varane jump ahead of the likes of Hummels and Kompany?
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Post by McAgger Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:15 am

Kompany rofl

Varane has shit on Kompany the day he decided to become a footballer.
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Post by dostoevsky Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:20 am

You're right, Kompany captaining City to multiple league titles pales in comparison to the consistency shown by a player who has played three full league games this season, late in November.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:21 am

*bleep* everybody for forgetting about the GOAT Barzagli because he's been injured
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Post by dostoevsky Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:22 am

Milan will probably be playing Champions League football by the time Barzagli gets back from injury at this rate. Laughing
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:26 am

Calma he'll be back within the next 10 years undoubtedly.
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Post by McAgger Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:26 am

Being on the bench doesn't take away from someones quality. Blame a stubborn coach for that.

Varane is obviously better than Ramos. Carlo is just being a dick.
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Post by dostoevsky Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:42 am

Agreed, the decisions of a triple Champions League winning manager about the players he sees train day in, day out can't be taken seriously because the man is clearly in the pay of Beezelbub himself.

It's absurd to include a player who doesn't consistently play in a conversation about the best in their position, particularly in a position where people focus so heavily on a single mistake. Hard to be known for your blunders when you only play every month or so.
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Post by McAgger Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:12 am

Meh, falling on deaf ears anything you said in that post. These ranking best player this, best player that is all subjective. It's my opinion. Doesn't bother me that you don't share it.
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Post by chad4401 Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:43 am

kompany is decent at best, come on now titles doesn't change the fact, im pretty sure city wins by out scoring not defending, kompany is lolz against elite attackers
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:10 pm

Varane hasn't achieved anything in his career and if anything has made as many mistakes as highlights.

He's only young so it's understandable but you all really need to pump the breaks.

Talent means *bleep* all in this discussion.
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Post by Valkyrja Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:13 pm

The moment you realize Varane has played more UCL finals than all the so called best defenders on earth Laughing
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Post by Gil Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:14 pm

Varane Laughing

Top 5 are clearly Silva, Terry, Godin, Pepe and Ramos.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:15 pm

So has Yaya Toure and he's CM by trade, not sure why that's irrelevant.

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Post by RealGunner Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:18 pm

Thought Varane retired after 42 year old Drogba ruined him.

Carlo benched his ass for good
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:20 pm

For the record I don't rate Boateng and Kompany that highly either.
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Post by chad4401 Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:23 pm

varane is still better than kompany though, and we all know varane would be starter, for most if not all elite clubs fact and he will prob takeover next season as starter as well
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Post by VivaStPauli Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:39 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:For the record I don't rate Boateng and Kompany that highly either.


Why? What's Boateng done in the past years to not be considered a highly rated defender?
Getting nutmegged once after playing with one man down for 70 minutes, in a match that held no consequence whatsoever for his team?
After the last three seasons he's had?

You guys know I don't traffic in terms like "the best", but he certainly is among the ranks of the world class defenders, isn't he?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:47 pm

I just have never liked him Viva, he's too erratic for me. As RG will attest, I hate aggressive defenders Laughing

I prefer defenders to stay in their lane and not try to win the ball all the time. I respect what he's done but I just dislike his style.
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Post by rwo power Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:51 pm

I think Boa has improved greatly since he arrived at Bayern. In the beginning he often acted rashly and was prone to errors due to that, but by now his timing with tackles is mostly perfect. He does do risky things, but usually they work out.

Yesterday's gaffe was an unfortunate error that can happen. The problem is that with both defenders and goalies, errors mostly end in goals, so they are more costly  - but you cannot avoid errors 100% as the players still are humans.
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Post by Curtinho Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:27 pm

chad4401 wrote:kompany is decent at best, come on now titles doesn't change the fact, im pretty sure city wins by out scoring not defending, kompany is lolz against elite attackers

Except over the last 5 years (including this one) City have allowed the lowest goals against in the EPL (146 over that span). Kompany has been there for 6 years now...all while playing an attacking brand of football.
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Post by VivaStPauli Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:27 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I just have never liked him Viva, he's too erratic for me. As RG will attest, I hate aggressive defenders Laughing

I prefer defenders to stay in their lane and not try to win the ball all the time. I respect what he's done but I just dislike his style.


Well I can appreciate that, it's a good enough explanation.
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