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Post by The Franchise Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:12 am

I can only imagine how bad it would have been if we had Cesc lost ass out there Laughing

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Post by Gil Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:19 am

The Franchise wrote:I can only imagine how bad it would have been if we had Cesc lost ass out there Laughing


Bin Busquets and Iniesta and replace them with Matic and Oscar and the result would have been reversed.

Getting dominated by old man Motta, a bootleg Ramires and freaking Verratti. Laughing

Cesc would have been dissecting that PSG defence with ease ffs. Imagine not being able to create anything against a team with clowns like Lu17, VDW, Maxwell and Marquinhos at the back. Laughing

Most assists in Europe this season after picking up his 8th tonight. :bow:
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Post by Harmonica Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:22 am

Gil wrote:Most assists in Europe this season after picking up his 8th tonight. :bow:
Fabregas has 7, Messi 8. If you come here to gloat, then you should at least get your "facts" straight. Laughing
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Post by windkick Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:35 am

Gil wrote:Feel bad for Messi. Bar Neymar in spurts he was virtually a one man team tonight. I mean it's incomprehensible how good he is.

P.S.: Rakitic was absolutely awful today and got dominated by Matuidi while Cesc was running the show AGAIN in Lisbon. :coffee:


Gloating our trash is working for you...against Lisbon?

Gtfo our section.
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Post by The Franchise Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:51 am

Gil wrote:
The Franchise wrote:I can only imagine how bad it would have been if we had Cesc lost ass out there Laughing


Bin Busquets and Iniesta and replace them with Matic and Oscar and the result would have been reversed.



Replacing quality, skilled players with work horses Laughing
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Post by Gil Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:21 am

Harmonica wrote:
Gil wrote:Most assists in Europe this season after picking up his 8th tonight. :bow:
Fabregas has 7, Messi 8. If you come here to gloat, then you should at least get your "facts" straight. Laughing


Dem imaginary stats. They both have 7 u pos.
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Gil wrote:Feel bad for Messi. Bar Neymar in spurts he was virtually a one man team tonight. I mean it's incomprehensible how good he is.

P.S.: Rakitic was absolutely awful today and got dominated by Matuidi while Cesc was running the show AGAIN in Lisbon. :coffee:


Gloating our trash is working for you...against Lisbon?

Gtfo our section.


Don't you dare get self-righteous with me. You guys don't hesitate to get in digs at Cesc. Let me bask in the glory of Iniesta and Rakitic getting dominated by a pub footballer.

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The Franchise wrote:I can only imagine how bad it would have been if we had Cesc lost ass out there Laughing


Bin Busquets and Iniesta and replace them with Matic and Oscar and the result would have been reversed.



Replacing quality, skilled players with work horses Laughing


Matic a workhorse? Laughing Aren't you a Porto fan? Neutral

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Post by Winter is Coming Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:26 am

PSG did play well no doubt about it, but are poor decision making made them look like gods out there.
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Post by Donuts Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:30 am

not too concerned with the loss, if it weren't for alves and alba we would of won easily 2-1 or perhaps 2-0
also gotta remember this is our 4th game in just a matter of 10 days also away from home and if this were a semi/quarter final this result would of actually been favored considering we got two goals away from home so there are many positives to come from this.

also lol at gil still pimping out cesc
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Post by Donuts Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:53 am

also would be interested to see mascherano play a DM game for us, infront of Mathieu, and Pique.. honestly after that performance from buscuit.
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Post by windkick Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:53 am

[quote="Gil"][quote="Harmonica"]
Gil wrote:I spit hot Garbage


Come back in the 2nd half of the season, when shit matters, and tell if you are still sucking off Fabgregas and your win in Lisbon.
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Post by Deja Vu Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:31 am

Watching Alves with the ball frustrates the shit out of me. He and Alba basically cost us the game. I wish the former left, last summer.

Also, a disappointing performance by MaTS. He was at fault for the 2nd goal, and while he wasn't for the 3rd, you could argue he could have intercepted the cross as it was pretty much within his reach but I could be wrong.
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Post by Twoism Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:57 am

As neutral fan, gotta say I was underwhelmed and a bit confused by Iniesta and Rakitic performance. It seems like their role is specifically support Alves and Alba who were not that effective going forward. Especially Rakitic whose 1st instinct was always pass to Alves. I rarely saw those two connected with each other hence the midfield in front of Biscuit was stretched out and Messi ended up drop back occupy it.

It looks like Lucho tactics since Xavi did the same when he replaced Rakitic. If it's tactic from Lucho, I don't really like it.
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Post by sportsczy Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:21 am

When a team presses high, their design is to recover the ball high and immediately transition to the attack. Barca does it and so does PSG. To say the PSG goals were "avoidable" is not accurate if they are the reault of the primary tactic of the opposing team... it means they just executed their plan. The counter argument too is that Cavani should have scored a couple if he weren't such a clutz and Pastore also had chances... not to mention others. Also, Barca have sucked at set pieces since forever. That is also a tactic against them.

PSG outplayed Barca. It could have ended 3-3, but it easily could have been 4-1 or 5-1 as well. On the Neymar goal, it was a floating cross by Alves that 3 PSG defenders somehow missed with only Messi in the area and it fell to Neymar's feet. By your logic, that was the most avoidable of the goals.... a random high cross against 5 defenders and only Messi/Neymar in the box should never lead to a goal.

Anyhow.
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Post by CBarca Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:34 am

The goals are avoidable because the Barcelona players failed to pass it out of the back properly and instead dribbled themselves into problems. We also failed to deal with Marco f*cking Veratti on a CORNER.

I could go into more detail, but regardless of what you say about high pressure...that doesn't change the fact that these goals were entirely avoidable from the Barcelona perspective.

Not really sure what you're on about, to be honest.
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Post by CBarca Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:34 am

oh and *bleep* this result
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Post by sportsczy Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:04 am

Every goal is avoidable Laughing  that's my point.  But to say that they were 100% a result of Barca not doing its job is completely false...  PSG's tactics were designed to specifically cause the errors that Barca made.  Namely, put high pressure and force the defenders to make passing/dribbling decisions as opposed to the midfielders BECAUSE defenders are more error-prone with the ball.

As far as the Verratti goal...  there were 4 PSG guys on the far post for only 1 Barca defender and the keeper.  It wasn't a 1on1 mistake... it was a complete zonal mistake.  It just happened to land on Verratti as opposed to the others.  BUT AGAIN, everyone knows that Barca is weak on set pieces.  Been like this for years.  So they emphasize getting FKs and taking advantage of them.

To me, something is reasonably avoidable if it's mostly random.  None of the goals by PSG were random.... not one. Other than Ter Stegen badly coming off his line and having a better chance of saving Verratti's header if he didn't, the rest were a result of PSG taking advantage of Barca's specific areas of weakness.
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Post by farfan Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:37 am

matuidi , a pub footballer ? rofl Gil Proud

Blaise would walk into that chelsea midfield and start 38 premier league games .
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Post by The Franchise Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:40 am

Nah Sports, dunno if you watched the game or not but it was nothing to do with tactics. Pressing is one thing, but when Dani Alves is taking 5-6 touches in his defensive third, any player worth his wages is going to put him under pressure.
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Post by Valkyrja Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:20 pm

Getting dominated by the likes of Matuidi and Verratti is not a 'big shame'. They are top class players.

@gil besides Matic there is not Chelsea player that would get in Barca's team except for the defense. Matic would be a big, big improvement over Busquets.
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Post by sportsczy Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:28 pm

That's just Barca and Madrid arrogance thinking that every loss or goal conceded was "avoidable" and the opponent wasn't just better...
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Post by The Franchise Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:30 pm



Did anyone even watch the game here?

Verratti was invisable and Matuidi didnt do much but foul. Besides their goals, they didnt even play well, both are MUCH better than they showed.
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Post by Valkyrja Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:57 pm

The Franchise wrote:

Did anyone even watch the game here?

Verratti was invisable and Matuidi didnt do much but foul. Besides their goals, they didnt even play well, both are MUCH better than they showed.


Verratti was very good what are you talking about ?
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Post by futbol Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:59 pm

Rewatching the game right now. Making notes for all individual defensive errors. Finished with the 1st half so far:

3:35: Busquets owned, trying to be cute and milk a foul, gets his pocket picked in his own half - this ain't LOL Liga, brah.

7:50 Alba simply owned by Lucas.

8:10 Alves owned, trying to dribble players at the edge of his own box, turning the ball over for the freekick which results in the goal.

12:10 Mathieu passing out of the back directly into the feet of Lucas.

12:20 Busquets owned again similar to the first one trying to be cute, just boot it when 3 men are harrassing you, lad.

25:15 Alba owned, trying to dribble the ball, Lucas just takes it off him lol. This ain't LOL Liga, brah.

31:30 Alba owned, dribbling forward again directly into a tackle by Motta and causing a counterattack.

33:50 Alves brainless cross. Not a defensive mistake in this context but I had to note this down anyway because DAT cross. Laughing Gif will follow later.

Of course you also have the 2 set piece goals (Mascherano marking Luiz and Rakitic marking no one). But overall PSG surprisingly didn't create much apart from the set pieces and both Barca fullbacks battling each other in who has less brain cells.

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Post by rwo power Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:59 pm

Deja Vu wrote:Also, a disappointing performance by MaTS. He was at fault for the 2nd goal, and while he wasn't for the 3rd, you could argue he could have intercepted the cross as it was pretty much within his reach but I could be wrong.
What do you expect after this weird decision to have the more experienced goalie play weekly and get proper practice, while having the youngster who never played CL before play CL only and not get the chance to properly gel with the defense?

Shouldn't Enrique have noticed that this didn't work properly for Real either, and there they had two experienced goalies with good standing?
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Post by The Franchise Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:24 pm

Valkyrja wrote:
The Franchise wrote:

Did anyone even watch the game here?

Verratti was invisable and Matuidi didnt do much but foul. Besides their goals, they didnt even play well, both are MUCH better than they showed.


Verratti was very good what are you talking about ?

Did nothing special. Had a "normal" game. Perhaps not invisible, but nothing to talk about.
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Post by sportsczy Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:26 pm

Verratti was fantastic... many of the counter attacks started because he was calm with the ball under pressure from Barca players and made a clean and good pass forward. Matuidi was very good too... he was hounding the left side of the pitch and closing gaps.

Not sure why you didn't think so Dani. I thought both played very well... and Matuidi hadn't been that good until this game tbh.
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